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DMCA Limited by Sixth Circuit Appeals Court

katharsis83 writes "Ars Technica and others are reporting that the Sixth Circuit Court has ruled against Lexmark in their lawsuit against a generic ink manufacturer. Here is a link to the ruling (EFF Website)."

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  1. Thats good by Orgazmus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Atleast someone is using their head :)

    I really dont know why a printer manufacturer should have exclusive rights on producing ink that work with their printers.
    That is like giving sony exclusive rights on the frequencies on their remote controls

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    1. Re:Thats good by AstroDrabb · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I really dont know why a printer manufacturer should have exclusive rights on producing ink
      They shouldn't, but printer manufacturers want to "give us the razor and sell us the blades". You can buy a cheap ink-jet printer and spend MORE on the first set of replacement inks then the original printer. It makes the printer a throw away printer if you don't want to spend the money on the ink. The only problem is that most new ink-jets come with a "preview" cartridge that has a very small amount of ink. The printer manufacturers want you to go out in a month tops and pay more for the ink then for the printer.

      I am actually very shocked by this ruling. It looks like we Americans still have at least ONE branch of governemt that is working "For The People". The rest have all sold out to big business.

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  2. Copy protection removal tool for legal use by IgD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've purchased a lot of games like Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam. The problem is you have to put a CD in the drive to play. This really slows down the game and is inconvenient. I'm sure it also adds wear and tear to your CD/DVD drive. Removing the CD check for a legal use is common sense. I bought the game, I'm entitled to use it.

    I'm not interested in piracy. I think it costs more to pirate the game if you factor in time then it would just to buy it.

  3. Don't break out the champaign yet by nz_mincemeat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At least this ruling would deter (mis)application of the DMCA on objects that the consumers actually own.

    Still won't help with the current situation of entertainment media or software though.

  4. Support your local anti-dmca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I heard about this ink/printer suit and the garage door opener I couldn't believe such a law would exist long. However, I'm concerned this ruling does not address the problems with the law itself, and possibly supports it. We need this law struck down, not just ruled against. Get out there and support the EFF and anti-dmca.org. We need the law repealed before they stick the law in your BIOS and linux becomes and outlaw OS.

  5. Great, as far as it goes by mistersooreams · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course it's always pleasing when a ruling goes against the DMCA, but we do need to see this small victory in context. Personally I would see this as "one lawsuit too far" in DMCA terms, and the judge has (rightly) nipped it in the bud. But that's a far cry from stemming the tide and actually starting to reverse the creation of the DMCA, which is what we are ultimately pursuing, isn't it?

    So Wahey for this result, and hopefully burning Lexmark's fingers should keep a few of their fellow printer manufacturers away from similar lawsuits. But nevertheless, let's be realistic: this is only a small step in the right direction.

  6. Re:Great news. by mog007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article "We should make clear that in the future companies like Lexmark cannot use the DMCA in conjunction with copyright law to create monopolies"

    It actully gave me chills. Is the political system of the United States in such a state to be repaired back to the intentions set forth in the Constitution?

  7. Re:Can we say wow? by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, I think it'd be hard to prove that the main purpose is for pirating, considering the large number of people who hack their xboxes, etc. to use as media servers, etc.

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  8. Re:Bought the game... by zurab · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Unfortunately, your 'anology' isn't even entirely accurate. The box of every piece of software I have has, in nice legable black print text telling you that you have to accept a license agreement before you use the product:

    For example:

    "You must accept the enclosed License Agreement before you can use this product. If you do not accept thte terms of the License Agreement, you should promptly return the product for a refund."

    Which means nothing in terms of the sales transaction. There is no contract executed during the purchase of a product at a store. Any further contract (besides sale of a product) between parties must include consideration; there is no additional consideration provided to a consumer after the software has been purchased. No consideration - no contract.

    True - the judge in the bnetd case ruled that when purchasing software consumers are just buying a shiny box and a coaster, but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever - they are clearly buying the software for the purpose of using it. Hopefully, the ruling is cleared up on the appeal and the record set clear.

    Disclaimer - IANAL.
  9. Please drop the childish nonsense by crucini · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I absolutely hate this kind of comment:
    I am actually very shocked by this ruling. It looks like we Americans still have at least ONE branch of governemt that is working "For The People". The rest have all sold out to big business.

    The court ruled on the law. They decided that Lexmark was stretching the DMCA beyond what Congress intended. It has nothing to with being for or against "the people".

    If Congress had written the DMCA to support this scenario, the court would probably have upheld it.
  10. Found on a gas cap. by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Technically speaking, you bought the CD, box and manuals, plus you paid for a license for use of the game, subject to copyright restrictions.

    I bought a car about a week ago. A couple of days later I went to fill up the tank and I found the following on the gas cap: (paraphrase)

    • By removing this cover, you agree to the following:
    • You agree that GM (Gates Motors) retains ownership of this vehicle, and you have only purchased the wheels on which it was delivered.
    • You agree that you will only have this vehicle repaired by a GM authorized dealer.
    • You agree that you will not attempt to disassemble, reverse engineer or repair this vehicle on your own.
    • You agree that, should GM dictate, you will blindly accept any upgrade or modification to this vehicle they offer you.
      (if you refuse such an upgrade, you agree that you will forfeit any right to use the vehicle).
    • You agree that you will pay for any such upgrade whatever charge GM deems acceptable.
    • You agree that, despite the forgoing, GM shall not be responsible for any malfunction or failure of the Vehicle, including malfunctions which cause death and/or dismemberment, even if GM has been informed of the likelihood of such such malfunction or failure.
    • if you disagree with this license, please return the vehicle to your GM dealer for a full refund before removing this cap.
    Is this license legally binding?
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  11. Applicability to DECSS?? by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you read the second-last page of the decision, it appears to be a dissenting opinion, but it brings up some good points that would seem to apply to the DECSS case:

    The DMCA defines "circumventing a technological measure" to mean avoid, bypass, etc., "a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner." 17 U.S.C. sect 1201(a)(3)(A)(emphasis by judge). Therefore, under the plain meaning of the law, circumventing a technological measure is only a violation of sect 1201(a) if the device allows consumers access to a work that they are not otherwise permitted to have.
    .....
    If this language of the statute were not enough, it is clear from the legislative history that Congress did not intend this provision to apply to devices that merely facilitated legitimate access. ..... The aim of sect 1201(b) was to restrict devices used primarily for piracy, and not those that facilitate legal use of products.

    What can I say: I like the idea of Linux DVD players.
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