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DMCA Limited by Sixth Circuit Appeals Court

katharsis83 writes "Ars Technica and others are reporting that the Sixth Circuit Court has ruled against Lexmark in their lawsuit against a generic ink manufacturer. Here is a link to the ruling (EFF Website)."

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  1. Thats good by Orgazmus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Atleast someone is using their head :)

    I really dont know why a printer manufacturer should have exclusive rights on producing ink that work with their printers.
    That is like giving sony exclusive rights on the frequencies on their remote controls

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    1. Re:Thats good by AstroDrabb · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I really dont know why a printer manufacturer should have exclusive rights on producing ink
      They shouldn't, but printer manufacturers want to "give us the razor and sell us the blades". You can buy a cheap ink-jet printer and spend MORE on the first set of replacement inks then the original printer. It makes the printer a throw away printer if you don't want to spend the money on the ink. The only problem is that most new ink-jets come with a "preview" cartridge that has a very small amount of ink. The printer manufacturers want you to go out in a month tops and pay more for the ink then for the printer.

      I am actually very shocked by this ruling. It looks like we Americans still have at least ONE branch of governemt that is working "For The People". The rest have all sold out to big business.

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  2. Great news. by grub · · Score: 5, Interesting


    It's about time the "give them the razors, sell them the blades" approach the printer companies have taken gets a kick in the shorts. They'll still make zillions from selling cartridges but at least one may have the option of refilling or buying 3rd party cartridges.

    Think about it: why do some printer cartridges cost more than a cheap DVD player?

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    1. Re:Great news. by mog007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From the article "We should make clear that in the future companies like Lexmark cannot use the DMCA in conjunction with copyright law to create monopolies"

      It actully gave me chills. Is the political system of the United States in such a state to be repaired back to the intentions set forth in the Constitution?

    2. Re:Great news. by Monkelectric · · Score: 5, Informative
      And lexmark is by far the worst abuser of this business model. Let me tell you a story:

      I went to my friends house one day and he had a *STACK* of lexmark printers new in the box. I said, "what the hell could you possibly do with 5 printers?" he replies, "I got them on sale for 19.99 each. Thats half the price of ink." He just chucked the printers in the trash after he used the ink they came with.

      Second story, I was at a computer store in southern california here -- and they had lexmark printers for 9.99! No ink! Ink costs, 32$ per cartridge (you need a color and a black and white). Holy crap :)

      I got sick of the ink game. I bought a HP Laserjet 4m+ (the last of the *REALLY* beefy HP printers) for 75$ used. Ive had it for an entire year and haven't used up the toner cartridge it came with.

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    3. Re:Great news. by LS · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why? I work for the HP Inkjet division and I'll tell you why HP cartridges are expensive - because they lose money on the printers, the rest of the company is in the red, the devices are becoming a commodity, the competition is driving margins down, and the upper management is greedy, so they compensate by charging outrageous prices for the cartridges and outsourcing work to Beijing, Singapore, and Bangalore.

      LS

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    4. Re:Great news. by Monkelectric · · Score: 4, Funny
      So when you run low on yellow, you have to buy a new set of cyan and magenta ink as well

      Yea, I always run out of flesh tones first >oops

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  3. Its about darn time! by acadiel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe this will make things such as region lockout on videogame consoles, cell phone unlocking services, etc, legal.

    Then again, if you start taking the analogy this far, then you get into a paradox with DVD region encoding.

    Thoughts?

  4. Copy protection removal tool for legal use by IgD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've purchased a lot of games like Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam. The problem is you have to put a CD in the drive to play. This really slows down the game and is inconvenient. I'm sure it also adds wear and tear to your CD/DVD drive. Removing the CD check for a legal use is common sense. I bought the game, I'm entitled to use it.

    I'm not interested in piracy. I think it costs more to pirate the game if you factor in time then it would just to buy it.

  5. Don't break out the champaign yet by nz_mincemeat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At least this ruling would deter (mis)application of the DMCA on objects that the consumers actually own.

    Still won't help with the current situation of entertainment media or software though.

  6. Hurray! by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only the right decision, but one that quotes Lawrence Lessig. How cool is that?

  7. Can we say wow? by shepd · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This really looks promising to make modchips legal in the USA (wow):

    "Generally speaking, "lock-out" codes fall on the functional-idea rather than the original-expression side of the copyright line. Manufacturers of interoperable devices such as computers and software, game consoles and video games, printers and toner cartridges, or automobiles and replacement parts may employ a security system to bar the use of unauthorized components. To "unlock" and permit operation of the primary device (i.e., the computer, the game console, the printer, the car), the component must contain either a certain code sequence or be able to respond appropriately to an authentication process. To the extent compatibility requires that a particular code sequence be included in the component device to permit its use, the merger and sc's 'aire doctrines generally preclude the code sequence from obtaining copyright."
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    1. Re:Can we say wow? by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, I think it'd be hard to prove that the main purpose is for pirating, considering the large number of people who hack their xboxes, etc. to use as media servers, etc.

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    2. Re:Can we say wow? by shepd · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A modchip is not acting as a replacement part. It does not 'unlock' or permit operation of the console. The purpose of a modchip is to bypass the signing mechanism used to prevent you from playing pirated games.

      Okay, time for a list of modchip uses:

      - Playing unofficial/unlicensed software (ex: Game Enhancer, which was almost definately first developed with the help of a modchip, since absolutely ZERO Sony code or patents were used to complete the software)
      - Using unofficial devices (ex: New max memory devices made by Datel)
      - Cheating devices (ex: Game genie by Galoob)
      - Playing backups
      - Bypassing region protection

      These are all locks placed on the device by the manufacturer in an attempt to stop the usage of third party items, such as:

      1 - Third party discs not authorized by the console manufacturer
      2 - Third party software not authorized by the console manufacturer
      3 - Third party hardware not authorized by the console manufacturer
      4 - Authorized software from the manufacturer that was not intended to be used in your country

      As far as I know, in all three situations, doing those things is legal. It is legal for me to put Maxell media in an HP burner (item 1), it's legal for me to install Windows XP to a Mac (item 2), it's legal for me to use a non sony DV tape in my Sony DV camcorder (item 3), and it's legal for me to watch a PAL videotape in the USA (item 4).

      Now, for some reason, the person who built the device decided for me they didn't like items 1 - 4. So they built the device not to allow this. Now this law says such locks are illegal. And since the actions were legal to start with, where's your beef?

      That someone might do items 1 - 4 with an illegal intent? Yeah, they could. In fact, you could install a pirated Windows XP on a Mac using an emulator. Does that make the emulator illegal? You could copy a copyrighted gameboy game into a blank flash memory cartridge and play it on your gameboy. Does that make computer memory illegal?

      This is no different than banning box cutters on airlines because you think a terrorist is going to slash your throat with one. You're using an (extremely poor) band-aid to cover up what is a societal problem that already has PLENTY of legal recourse against the act, and you are inconveniencing and embarassing people as you do it. It's nasty and wrong, and, quite honestly, it makes me, as an outsider, afraid to enter your country. It's no different than trying to ban chewing gum just because someone might stick it under a desk.

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  8. What's this? by Trogre · · Score: 5, Funny

    A judge with his head screwed on right?

    What's next?

    Dogs and cats living together?
    North America having more than two presidential candidates?
    Duke Nuken Forever going gold? And GPL'd?

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  9. Support your local anti-dmca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I heard about this ink/printer suit and the garage door opener I couldn't believe such a law would exist long. However, I'm concerned this ruling does not address the problems with the law itself, and possibly supports it. We need this law struck down, not just ruled against. Get out there and support the EFF and anti-dmca.org. We need the law repealed before they stick the law in your BIOS and linux becomes and outlaw OS.

  10. Great, as far as it goes by mistersooreams · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course it's always pleasing when a ruling goes against the DMCA, but we do need to see this small victory in context. Personally I would see this as "one lawsuit too far" in DMCA terms, and the judge has (rightly) nipped it in the bud. But that's a far cry from stemming the tide and actually starting to reverse the creation of the DMCA, which is what we are ultimately pursuing, isn't it?

    So Wahey for this result, and hopefully burning Lexmark's fingers should keep a few of their fellow printer manufacturers away from similar lawsuits. But nevertheless, let's be realistic: this is only a small step in the right direction.

  11. Rulings for the technologically impared... by Pollux · · Score: 4, Funny

    You just gotta love reading this ruling, it actually makes me feel intelligent.

    Before the printer runs the Toner Loading Program, it performs a "checksum operation," a "commonly used technique" to ensure the "integrity" of the data downloaded from the toner cartridge microchip.

    Of course, you don't have to "understand" every piece of information presented in the ruling, but "understanding" what is written is a very "commonly used technique" to insure the "integrity" of communicating in the English language.

  12. Don't get your hopes up... by shaneh0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This case is pretty clear, in my opinion, and I doubt the Supreme Court would hear it even if Lexmark does appeal, which I don't think they will.

    But the DMCA won't really be tested until it's challenged in front of the Supreme Court, which has a tendency of leaning towards business interests in property disputes.

    One glimmer of hope is that the sixth circuit is 2/3 conservative, more resembling the high court then the liberal Ninth or Neo-Con Fourth. That might explain why it has the second best overturn record in the past 10 years, and it might mean that there's hope for our cause after all.

    This is one more reason the election next week matters. One more republican-appointed justice and you will see a sea change in our nations judiciary. Roe v. Wade (The right to have an abortion) gets most the press, but things like DCMA will be affected just as much.

  13. Anyone else read the partially dissenting opinion? by tlambert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone else read the partially dissenting opinion?

    Judge Feikens claimed that, because Lexmark admitted that there was a "magic bit" that would turn off the TLP sequence, that SCC should have found it.

    This really presumes that they knew that there even was a "magic bit" in the first place.

    This is, IMO, insane. Without apriori knowledge of the existance of a bit even existing, how were they supposed to have found it?!?

    Other people might look at this as a victory against the DMCA, but I, for one, don't think that the judge who could have written that dissenting opinion still being a seated judge, able to hear future DMCA cases, using the same flawed logic, counts as a victory.

    Unfortunately, the position is appointed and not elected, so it's not like we're going to get rid of him as easily as voting someone else into office instead.

    -- Terry

  14. Re:OH NO!! by suckmysav · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think more coffee is the last thing you need.

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  15. Re:Bought the game... by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's say I sell you a kitchen table. You pay me $200 for a piece of shiny wood with 4 legs, which I deliver to your house. I make no mention of restrictions, but AFTER the sale, you notice a piece of paper stapled to the bottom of the table. It says that you didn't really buy the table, you bought a table usage license. I have placed restrictions on how you can use the table, such as in the kitchen only and only for eating. If you wish to keep an electronic device on the table such as a TV, radio, or even your cellphone charger, you have to pay me $10 a month in additional royalties. If you fail to comply with the terms, under the power of the DMCA I can enter your house, sieze the table along with anything that may be sitting on it, and require you to pay me a $500,000 penalty. Does this sound reasonable? Would it hold up in court?

  16. I hate to say I told you so... by RealProgrammer · · Score: 4, Interesting
    but I told you so. Well, not exactly. But this hacks off one of the abuses of the DMCA: using its protections for stuff that ought to be covered under a patent (if your work is so original as to merit a patent).

    The DMCA was "Copyright fix in the Internet Age, version 1". I expect Version 2 will be coming around shortly. There is a lot of pressure for action:

    • The patent system is broken, so people are trying to use copyright law in its place
    • The RIAA, MPAA, et al want piracy made a capital felony (it seems)
    • The blogs are taking over the role of news source from the mainscam media
    • Courts are getting smarter
    • Open Source principles are at work in business, as the dotcom bubble has given way to the network age
    • Politicians see the power of free information, especially in the way it affects their ability to campaign
    In short, we're all more sophisticated and just more used to the impact of technology than when the DMCA was made law in the late 90's. We'll probably be just as short-sighted next time around, but at least this batch of problems will be addressed. I hope.
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  17. It just keeps getting better the more I read by Armethius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It looks like these judges have an exceptional grasp of the technology stifling possibilities inherent in the DMCA. If you look in the concurring opinion you will find this passage:

    I write separately to emphasize that our holding should not be limited to the narrow facts surrounding either the Toner Loading Program or the Printer Engine Program. We should make clear that in the future companies like Lexmark cannot use the DMCA in conjunction with copyright law to create monopolies of manufactured goods for themselves just by tweaking the facts of this case: by, for example, creating a Toner Loading Program that is more complex and "creative" than the one here, or by cutting off other access to the Printer Engine Program. The crucial point is that the DMCA forbids anyone from trafficking in any technology that "is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a [protected] work." 17 U.S.C. 1201(2)(A) (emphasis added). The key question is the "purpose" of the circumvention technology. The microchip in SCC's toner cartridges is intended not to reap any benefit from the Toner Loading Program - SCC's microchip is not designed to measure toner levels - but only for the purpose of making SCC's competing toner cartridges work with printers manufactured by Lexmark.

    Not only did they smack down Lexmark in this abuse of the DMCA's (and copyright's) provisions, but they go so far as to state that the DMCA should be read to not apply to companies aiming to create a monopoly not supported by law.

    I only wish this was a SCOTUS ruling instead of a Circuit ruling. Apparently there are now conflicts with other Circuit rulings.

  18. Re:Bought the game... by zurab · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Unfortunately, your 'anology' isn't even entirely accurate. The box of every piece of software I have has, in nice legable black print text telling you that you have to accept a license agreement before you use the product:

    For example:

    "You must accept the enclosed License Agreement before you can use this product. If you do not accept thte terms of the License Agreement, you should promptly return the product for a refund."

    Which means nothing in terms of the sales transaction. There is no contract executed during the purchase of a product at a store. Any further contract (besides sale of a product) between parties must include consideration; there is no additional consideration provided to a consumer after the software has been purchased. No consideration - no contract.

    True - the judge in the bnetd case ruled that when purchasing software consumers are just buying a shiny box and a coaster, but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever - they are clearly buying the software for the purpose of using it. Hopefully, the ruling is cleared up on the appeal and the record set clear.

    Disclaimer - IANAL.
  19. Please drop the childish nonsense by crucini · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I absolutely hate this kind of comment:
    I am actually very shocked by this ruling. It looks like we Americans still have at least ONE branch of governemt that is working "For The People". The rest have all sold out to big business.

    The court ruled on the law. They decided that Lexmark was stretching the DMCA beyond what Congress intended. It has nothing to with being for or against "the people".

    If Congress had written the DMCA to support this scenario, the court would probably have upheld it.
  20. Lasermonks: Low Ink Prices by talon_262 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you don't have a problem with low prices on ink cartridges while supporting a group of Catholic monks in Wisconsin, go here the next time you need to buy an ink cartridge. I've ordered a couple of times from them and haven't had any problems with the ordering process or with their products. With them, I get my Epson Stylus C60 cartridges for about 1/4-1/3 the price of the Epson OEM cartridges at local stores.

    They also seem to think very highly of /., because they carry a /. banner at the bottom of their home page referring back to a thread about them here earlier this year (in which I had originally heard about them).

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  21. Found on a gas cap. by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Technically speaking, you bought the CD, box and manuals, plus you paid for a license for use of the game, subject to copyright restrictions.

    I bought a car about a week ago. A couple of days later I went to fill up the tank and I found the following on the gas cap: (paraphrase)

    • By removing this cover, you agree to the following:
    • You agree that GM (Gates Motors) retains ownership of this vehicle, and you have only purchased the wheels on which it was delivered.
    • You agree that you will only have this vehicle repaired by a GM authorized dealer.
    • You agree that you will not attempt to disassemble, reverse engineer or repair this vehicle on your own.
    • You agree that, should GM dictate, you will blindly accept any upgrade or modification to this vehicle they offer you.
      (if you refuse such an upgrade, you agree that you will forfeit any right to use the vehicle).
    • You agree that you will pay for any such upgrade whatever charge GM deems acceptable.
    • You agree that, despite the forgoing, GM shall not be responsible for any malfunction or failure of the Vehicle, including malfunctions which cause death and/or dismemberment, even if GM has been informed of the likelihood of such such malfunction or failure.
    • if you disagree with this license, please return the vehicle to your GM dealer for a full refund before removing this cap.
    Is this license legally binding?
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  22. Applicability to DECSS?? by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you read the second-last page of the decision, it appears to be a dissenting opinion, but it brings up some good points that would seem to apply to the DECSS case:

    The DMCA defines "circumventing a technological measure" to mean avoid, bypass, etc., "a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner." 17 U.S.C. sect 1201(a)(3)(A)(emphasis by judge). Therefore, under the plain meaning of the law, circumventing a technological measure is only a violation of sect 1201(a) if the device allows consumers access to a work that they are not otherwise permitted to have.
    .....
    If this language of the statute were not enough, it is clear from the legislative history that Congress did not intend this provision to apply to devices that merely facilitated legitimate access. ..... The aim of sect 1201(b) was to restrict devices used primarily for piracy, and not those that facilitate legal use of products.

    What can I say: I like the idea of Linux DVD players.
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