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Ubuntu For PPC, And As A Live CD

Jeff writes "Ubuntu is just sweet. For Mac users it is even sweeter, as you can read in this review: it supports hardware like a charm ad now with a live CD out everyone can taste ... sorry, test it." And Chris writes "Gnoppix 0.8.1 now appears to be Ubuntu Linux based. At OSDir, we've got over 50 screenshots of the Gnoppix 0.8.1 release, including the controversial Ubuntu desktop background images." (See this earlier story; the default background images have been changed in Ubuntu proper, so the "controversy" need not keep you up nights.) The Gnoppix version is a very nice Gnome-based live CD, with fewer apps but more polish than most live CDs I've tried. (Note that this is not the same as the official Ubuntu CD, and that the PPC version is not a live CD.)

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  1. Controversial theme? by An+Onimous+Cow+Herd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    err... anyone got a link to the controversial theme so we can see what all the fuss was about?

    1. Re:Controversial theme? by vinsci · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apparently it is a photo of humans hugging. It would be perfectly ok if they pointed guns and shot at each other, as usual.The screenshots in the 50 range on osdir have that background.

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    2. Re:Controversial theme? by NtroP · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I want to use it in our schools. We have a lot of older macs that either can't run OS X efficiently or would be very expensive to upgrade. We also have a lot of older and donated PCs that I want to load Linux on. With Ubuntu I can make use of our fairly extensive deployment of both Windows and Linux Terminal Service farms with rdesktop and X making those older computers effectively scream.

      Unfortunately, many people wouldn't understand having that picture show up on their desktop or splash-screens. This would also mean that I'd have to manually ferret out all versions of the pictures and hope I didn't miss any.

      I understand the whole hippie, love everyone, sentiment (well, love thin, young, beautiful people with blemish-free skin at least), but in many corporate, public and K-12 school settings, that kind of art is still a little controversial.

      To be honest, I'd much rather use Ubuntu than Fedora/RedHat and YellowDog (if only so that I wouldn't need to support many different distros). This is really the only sticking point with me. I may still wind up using it, but it's just that much more work on my part for every install, and just the fact that word might get out that the images came on the distro in the first place can taint it's acceptance if it were ever discovered by any of the more vocal, anti-linux contingent in "management". It seems they'll latch on to any arguement that hinders our "going Microsoft" in any way.

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  2. Re:Linux on the Mac is for Masochists... by xchino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps you are unaware, but PPC hardware did in fact exist before OS X, and most of that pre-existing hardware will not run OS X. Given Linux vs. OS 9, I'd certainly choose Linux. Of course, I'd probably choose Linux regardless, as I'm not a huge fan of OS X, but to each his own.

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  3. Re:Linux on the Mac is for Masochists... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Someone buying a mac can certainly afford OS X. This may come as a surprise to you, but if you buy a new Mac it even comes with OS X. So please stop your trolling.

    2. Again, I know it is hard to believe for some people, but there are computer users who don't think that OS X is the best OS that ever was and ever will be and that simply prefer Linux. Reasons for that may be that they are simply more familiar with Linux, that they want a coherent IT infrastracture and are already using Linux on their other machines, that they simply enjoy the choices Linux offers compare to OS X, that they are more productive with something like ratpoisen than with the eye-candy of OS X ...

    3. For older Macs Linux is a great option, as OS X tends to run, ehm, not really fast on these machines.

  4. Re:Linux on the Mac is for Masochists... by BottleCup · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My sentiments go with most of the others who replied to this posting. In addition, there are some Linux users who have been using Linux on the PC platform for years who may want to switch over to PPC but aren't willing to part with their OS of choice. Having more Linux distros available for the PPC just means more choices. Why is that a bad thing?

  5. Re:Linux on the Mac is for Masochists... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not? I never said 'Don't install Linux on your Mac', I said 'Linux on the Mac is for masochists' and it's true.

    Please elaborate. I find distros like Ubuntu as easy to use and install on PPC as Mac OS X. Yeah, I've used both, in case you wonder.

    For me, I just have no desire to dick around with Linux while I have a perfectly serviceable Unix (tm) available.

    Well, it's your life. We linux users don't care.

    As far as the Mac not being a real Unix, it is far more of a 'real' Unix than Linux. It's directly descended from AT&T Unix. It has a microkernel design, and is definitely BSD.

    First, AT&T unix didn't have microkernel parts at all, so direct descendency is more than questionable. Second, UNIX System V came after BSD, it's a more modern UNIX specification, but still UNIX. Linux follows this one. Third, OS X uses a microkernel to load the bsd one completely in memory. There goes your microkernel design.

    And last, remember that to have a true UNIX(R) system, you have to pay for certification. Perhaps linux could get it, but the developers already said they wouldn't apply for it since it's not their goal to make a pure UNIX system.

  6. Re:Linux on the Mac is for Masochists... by swv3752 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except that Linux is now the default *nix. There is a reason why IBM designed there mainframes to run Linux. IBM didn't setup there mainframes to run virtual machines of BSD. There is a reason why Solaris and FreBSD have linux emulation layers. There is a reason why Sun sells Linux machines.

    There are more Linux than Mac servers. Depending on whose numbers you use, there are more Linux Desktops than Macs. Even the conservative numbers put Linux about equal with Macs.

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  7. Re:Linux on the Mac is for Masochists... by torpor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would you want to run *nix on a ppc when you can run it on a cheaper amd64 machine?

    Shit this is a stupid question, but I'll answer it anyway:

    Because you have a PPC machine, and don't have an AMD64.

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  8. Re:Linux on the Mac is for Masochists... by nathanh · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Why screw around with PPC Linux, when one can run OS X?

    I prefer Linux.

  9. Had me sold until by beforewisdom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the said the distro was gnome only.

    I recently converted to the KDE after being a die hard icewm user.

    I've read so many comments on slashdot about what a pain in the ass Gnome is.

    If I want to futz, I will go back to icewm.

  10. Re:That is fucking ridiculous by danila · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's exactly the problem, you prude. Not that it's illegal to show people hugging each other, but that's it's considered "improper" in the society. Not that blacks are somehow inferiour to us, humans, but you are "not supposed" to put them on wallpapers and login screens. Not that I am racist, Jimmy, but I don't want you to play with those niggers in school. Not that it's illegal for free adults to care about each other, but we must protect the sacred institution of marriage. Or something...

    This is sick, this is what every sane person hates about political correctness, that it makes us inhuman, that it denies us everything that somehow deviates from the bland, corporate-sanctioned banality.

    And since no discussion about Linux distros is complete without mentioning Microsoft, let me remind you about this cute little story of our beloved government fighting child porn peddlers. Or was it some retards making fuss about nothing, I don't remember. To make a long story short, a hologram on a Windows'95 retail box had an animation of a happy little kid pointing to the computer where Win95 was installed. That was a cute animation, but the child (or horrors!) was not wearing a shirt. Which, in the minds of our hiddenly perverted keepers of the morals, meant that the kid was not wearing any pants either (even though the kid was only seen from the waist up). Which meant, in turn, that it was evil child porn and Microsoft was pressured to change the image on that sticker. Shit, America and it's political correctness bullshit is a disgrace to our world.

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  11. Re:Sorry I don't get it.. by NardofDoom · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It's a naked man and two naked women. And you know what that means: Immoral sexual acts.

    Now if you excuse me, I have to go cut a hole in a sheet so my wife can bear children.

    /sarcasm

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  12. Modesty & Propriety by Medievalist · · Score: 3, Insightful
    An Anonymous Coward spake:
    I wish that you might show more respect, to cultures that are different from your own. It is possible to know love, but also to know modesty and propriety as well.
    Absolutely! We must respect intolerant cultures explicitly! So, there should be no pictures of humans, ever, because the holy books of many people state that this is sinful (examples: the Bible and the Qu'ran). There should also be no statuary or graven images since they are also sinful in the eyes of many cultures, so 3-dimensionl imaging must not be used for anything. And of course women's voices may never be heard outside quarters specifically designated for women, so only recognizably male voices may be used in audio applications, and speech may not be synthesized as this is an affront to God's creation, only humans are given the right to speak as the designated lords of creation. Further, no system may be turned on or off on any holy day, such as Sunday or Saturday, and obviously this must be enforced by hardware since Man is sinful and must not be led into temptation.