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Internet Televison Content Coming of Age

Thomas Hawk writes "The Washington Post has an article out this morning on the assortment of internet based TV choices that are popping up providing additional and competing content to the major studios. Most of these providers are operating more as content collectors or aggregators than actual content producers."

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  1. CSPAN.org by turnstyle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I watched all 4 US presidential debates (1 vice presidential) live on CSPAN.org. It worked great.

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    1. Re:CSPAN.org by paulthomas · · Score: 3, Informative

      They also show real debates when they happen... like the Green/Libertarian debate. This was also online, albeit in Real format. -Paul

  2. Its been done. by Pxtl · · Score: 4, Funny

    Red vs. blue and Homestar are all the TV the internet needs.

  3. Finally by deathcloset · · Score: 4, Funny

    A good use for my WebTv ;)

  4. tv as we know it by to+be+a+troll · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I believe we are experiencing the last dying gasps of the final generation of TV as we know it... personally i have found myself watching all my TV on my computer, from downloaded Simpsons episodes to streaming CNN newscasts. I havent owned a TV in years. Most the younger people i know (18-25) are pretty much headed towards the same direction.

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  5. Don't forget Bittorrent! by exhilaration · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can get most popular shows via BitTorrent. Check out this great site for a listing. And check out Azureus if you're looking for a great client!

    1. Re:Don't forget Bittorrent! by garcia · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah and Suprnova has a ton too but that doesn't mean it's legal (at least here in the States).

      Most of those TV episodes don't include commercials or originally aired on extended cable channels like HBO. Those original providers cannot be terribly thrilled about it.

    2. Re:Don't forget Bittorrent! by FictionPimp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yea, I feel so guilty sending that check to the cable company every month while I'm downloading those episodes of the daily show I missed. I'm such a horrible person :-p

      *Yes I know your comment was sarcastic*

    3. Re:Don't forget Bittorrent! by marcop · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I know the parent is meant for sarcasm, however is it still stealing if I download shows from the Internet for archival purposes when I have:

      - am a TW digital cable subscriber - only downloading shows I actaully receive.
      - Tivo my shows
      - Have a VCR to archive.
      - Have a analog TV to firewire device bridge that I can use to cap my analog feeds.

      Since the US Supreme court has upheld that time shifting is OK, I can legally archive programs that I pay for and receive in my home. However, I find it more convenient to simply download shows instead of doing the work myself. Am I still a pirate?

      This questions seems more a rhetorical question whose answer varies depending on who you ask. Anyone have any legal backing?

    4. Re:Don't forget Bittorrent! by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most of those TV episodes don't include commercials or originally aired on extended cable channels like HBO. Those original providers cannot be terribly thrilled about it.

      Due to the Sony v Universal case in 1984 (also known as the Betamax decision), it is LEGAL for someone to own one copy of an episode that was on the public airwaves (CBS, ABC, NBC, etc) for the purposes of "timeshifting" (what its called now). You are also allowed to give out a copy of your copy to someone who missed the show. This makes www.tvtorrents.net COMPLETELY LEGAL, even without commercials. (as they only have local channel shows).

      Now, of course, shows on HBO or Discovery Channel are not as legal.

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  6. Sounds more line on-demand TV... by sp00 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After skimming the article it seems like these are more like on demand content services rather than other "Internet TV" providers.

  7. Re:FM from Internet Radio Recipe by telemonster · · Score: 3, Informative

    This has been disproven millions of times. The true legal broadcast power limits are measured in microvolts at a distance from the antenna. So Mr. Microphone is about the legal limit.

    Also, if you start running over the legal limit, you get multipath reception issues as a receiver hears multiple transmitters on the same frequency (from adjacent cells).

    Computer in car retrieves content from house via 802.11b, then content is played from cache during commute. Easy enough.

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  8. Re:Hooray!! by greechneb · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, and with my dialup connection at home, I'll be able to watch the entire season of a show about the same time the DVD release comes out!

  9. Vonage for TV by telemonster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is just a matter of time before Vonage style services for television start appearing. TV over IP.

    Now is the time for Multicast...

    I think it would be cool to have an opensource set top box that pulls content from something like bittorrent. Each box could serve and play, as an appliance. Let people publish content on the network and wala, true television revolution.

    Could make them out of Tivo units, after replacing Linux with NetBSD.

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  10. RSS + Divx = No More TV by tobes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For me, the joy (if you can call it that) of tv has always been that it's a somewhat passive experience. Sometimes you just want to sit back and not "search" for content. Of course, lately tv has been failing to provide this experience. The lack of quality programming means that I spend more time channel surfing than I would like.

    Anyway, I think there's a big potential for tcp/ip video to replace the current distribution methods. The only hurdle is replicating that passive viewing experience. I think things like RSS go a long way towards achieving this. Instead of surfing/searching for video, by tying it to RSS you could just subscribe to "channels" and have the content pulled down to your machine (or links to it) almost immediately after it's published. Tie this in with some sort of search engine or recommendation system and you have a pretty powerful product.

    1. Re:RSS + Divx = No More TV by einstein · · Score: 3, Informative

      And the best place to see this RSS + Divx in action?

      http://www.torrentocracy.com/

  11. Use of new technology for old technology by binaryDigit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it highly amusing that old technology is used to support new technology which is then used to supply the features of old technologies. Case 1, telephones. POTS lines are used to carry modem traffic which is now used to carry voip (i.e. telephone) traffic. Cable lines are used to carry ip traffic which is now being utilized to receive tv. Gotta luv it.

  12. Free providers by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 4, Informative
    There are many free providers of TV over Internet. Its getting to the point of asking yourself WHY you watch broadcast TV anymore.

    For a list of worldwide stations - Smart Digital Network
    America Free TV

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  13. Mainstream programs? by tji · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After looking through the WWW sites for Akimbo and DaveTV, I see a distinct lack of mainstream TV.

    Since buying an HDTV tuner, and hooking a small antenna to it, I can get all my local stations for free - in a quality leaps and bounds better than what cable or satellite provides. So, there are only a few things keeping me paying those high monthly fees.

    - The Daily Show with John Stewart. This could be easily done via Internet TV. I would gladly pay a few bucks a week/month to just get this and not all the other garbage on cable.

    - Occasionally, I like to be able to get CNN. But, for the most part I use online news sources, so this is not crucial.

    - Sports Programming. ESPN carries a lot of college basketball, sunday night NFL, etc. This would not necessarily transfer over to Internet TV well, because I don't want to request download & see it after the fact.. I want to see it live. Also, when you consider their push into HDTV services.. this is very hard to replicate via Internet. I don't know if this is enough to keep me paying $60++ per month. But, I would be very tempted when my college was being carried on an ESPN-HD game.

    - HD movie channels. These are nice to have.. but, DVD's are an acceptable substitute. In a few years, we will have HD-DVD's, decreasing the appeal of HD movie channels.

    At this point, I think that if I had the ability to access the few mainstream cable programs I want at a reasonable cost, I would dump cable TV.

  14. Re:Quality? by hrbrmstr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am amazed to see the words "quality" and "TV" used in the same sentence.

    HDTV presentation of crap is still crap.

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  15. Streaming content... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    These sites also offer some television content but mostly old stuff (very old). They have streaming movies which does not require you to download onto a set top device and then view on your tv. The sites are http://www.cinemanow.com/ http://www.movieflix.com/ and http://www.ifilm.com/. They have free and subscription content.