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Laser Powered Virtual Display

Tedger writes "The Feature has an article discussing an interesting portable display system developed by the University of Washington. Unlike your traditional mini displays mounted in glasses this system has no display, it is a 'virtual' display created by lasers and microscopic fast moving mirrors. The image is in fact printed onto the retina and has feasibly a infinite resolution. Can anyone say true VR?"

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  1. VR again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one welcome our retinal destroying overlords.
    First post?

  2. safety by wed128 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Laser images printed on the retina? what are the safety concerns with this? i would think "burn in" would once again be a serious issue.

    1. Re:safety by PoopJuggler · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is safe, unless hackers get into your computer and set it to "Evil".

    2. Re:safety by worthb · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's why it has a built in screensaver. Just imagine, you're driving, and the virtual monitor is displaying a Heads Up Display, and the screensaver kicks in. Suddenly you're flying through space at warp-speed.

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    3. Re:safety by Enigma_Man · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gee, maybe it's not high powered lasers? I'm sure you're being sarcastic / playing dumb, but just because it's a laser doesn't mean it's going to harm your eyes.

      -Jesse

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    4. Re:safety by lachlan76 · · Score: 4, Informative

      A CD-ROM laser could hardly hurt your eye

      Not instantly, but because it is IR, by the time you notice anything, the damage has already been done.
      Just because you can't see the laser doesn't mean it sn't dangerous.

    5. Re:safety by Alrescha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Just because you can't see the laser doesn't mean it isn't dangerous."

      Just because it's a laser doesn't mean it's dangerous.

      A.

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    6. Re:safety by justforaday · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Where the fuck did all these toasters come from?"

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    7. Re:safety by rjelks · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd be more concerned about the lasers that are attatched to freak'n sharks. Those are the kind you need to watch out for.

    8. Re:safety by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      First of all, you'd have to stare into a CD laser for some time before there was damage. These lasers will be even lower-power than that. Second, you can use a simple timed driver circuit to control the scanning mirror, so that as long as the laser unit has power, the system is scanning, with a safety interlock circuit which disables the laser if it detects that it has stopped moving. This can all be done at a low level and frankly it doesn't sound very hard to me; it might be hard to make a system that doesn't detect false positives but I'm betting you can build the laser, the scanning circuit, and the safety circuit into a single chip using MEMS and have the cost be basically nothing (in terms of what the device will cost) - the chip will just return pulses for synchronization so the video solution can tell the RAMDAC what to do, and it will have a system to synchronize two of the devices together.

      Now, I'm no EE so maybe there's problems with this, but it seems simple enough to implement. There's just not a lot going on; the laser scans across, and each time it hits the end, it jumps down a line. If you don't get the pulses occurring within a certain time, which can be based on filling a capacitor as I'm sure you well know, then you just shut it off. It's easiest to do with fixed-resolution displays, but all you have to do is use a different cap (or multiple caps) for different resolutions, or just accept that the laser might stay put for five or six lines' worth of scanning at some resolutions, which is highly unlikely to damage anyone's eyes.

      I don't think that non-laser light is really any safer. With a laser, you can use a lower intensity of light because your results will be more accurate with less light. Either way you need to get the same amount of light to the user's eye; this is, quite simply, how you will be controlling intensity.

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    9. Re:safety by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I ordered mine yesterday along with a co-worker

      How much did the coworker cost you, and did you have to pay extra for air holes in the shipping crate?

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    10. Re:safety by robertjw · · Score: 3, Funny

      why can't they use a laser that only outputs a few microwatts of power?

      They can, but what happens when the power supply is hit by lightning and those microvolts turn to 10,000 volts. It might burn a hole right through your head.

    11. Re:safety by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Funny
      They can, but what happens when the power supply is hit by lightning and those microvolts turn to 10,000 volts.


      Given that the power supply will be located either in your pocket or attached to your sunglasses, I think that if lightning hits it you will have other concerns to worry about.

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    12. Re:safety by Arcturax · · Score: 3, Funny

      And I screamed, "What are these god damn animals"? as I swatted frantically at them with my flyswatter.

      I looked to my companion. He was calm but the poor bastard would see them soon enough.

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  3. Let's be real about this... by drlake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even if they do work out all the bugs in the system, it's still only a step toward true VR at best. Without ways to also stimulate all our other senses, this will be more akin to TV than VR.

  4. Lasers... by bcmm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do not look into laser with remaining eye.

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  5. Been around for a long time . . . by taylor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I recall researching such "direct imaging" devices back in 1995; they were going to be the next great thing in VR, back when virtual reality was still a meme. What is neat is the idea of wide integration, though safety issues even with low power lasers would, I imagine, remain a problem.

    As an analogy, consider headphone use vs. speakers. In the headphone case, you can easily damage your ears without even noticing you're doing it by having it a tinsy bit loud, while the speaker output makes it much harder (I imagine due to all that feedback to the rest of your body!) Similarly here, you are probably imaging on a limited part of your retina, which may make your eyes dilate open too much, and develop small damage over time, etc.

  6. This is old stuff... by smoon · · Score: 3, Informative

    I recently read a book "The Visionary Position" which detailed the university of washingtons virtual reality lab and all of the various spin-off companies.

    It wasn't a bad book, but they've had these things since the mid-90's -- just hard to find an appropriate market I guess.

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  7. I've been waiting for something like this by goneutt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After all the obstructive heads up type units we finall have one with the potential to co-exist with our normal field of vision. The "augmented reality" could give us new ways of seeing the world, with a 3-d overlay on reality. In the article they mention and automotvie expert system which will give the user a visual overlay of the system their looking at.

    Also it should give you the ability to use PDA's in a private fashion while still having a large view. In fact, this could redefine the PDA format, instead of the little notepad style device. Just gotta get the production levels up, cost down, so it's more affordable than the $4000 price tag.

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  8. yes, but... by spectrokid · · Score: 4, Funny

    where do the friggin sharks come in the picture?

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  9. Didn't we... by totoanihilation · · Score: 5, Informative

    Didn't we see this already?

  10. Re:Yea true VR by Randy+Wang · · Score: 3, Funny

    Y'see - porn CAN make you go blind!

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  11. Re:I'd use it for... by totoanihilation · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hmm. The system seems limited at the moment to only red, and what seems to be 1-bit color. I sense a comeback of ASCII porn!

    It does, though, bring a whole new meaning to "do it too often and you'll go blind"...

  12. Vector or Raster? by alanw · · Score: 3, Informative
    The article mentions a single mirror. This implies that the display is a vector, rather than a raster display. Vector displays (e.g. the Textronix 4010) required storage tubes, i.e. tubes with a very long persistance phospor.

    I used to work for a company that produced a High Resolution Display that used mirrors to steer a red or blue laser beam onto a sheet of photochromic film - the blue laser would permanently write on the film - the red laser could be used for drawing small amounts of vector graphics - a cursor, or a few characters of text. Doing complex graphics in vector mode when the persistence of the human eye is less than 40ms will require the mirror to be scanned at very high frequencies

  13. just light? by ghostprovidence · · Score: 3, Informative

    Laser light is fundamentally different from natural light ... its a coherent group of photons; all approximately in phase, traveling in the same direction with roughly the same energy. This stuff isn't normally encountered in nature. Its hard to say what long term exposure to this sort of radiation is going to do to sensitive tissues like those found in human eyes ...

    I'm being general here; not saying it couldn't be safe. In any case its completely different from looking at light scattered from a screen, staring at a light bulb filament, or seeing an image formed by separate little light-sources (pixels) on a CRT.

    They must have diffraction/interference problems stuffing a laser straight into an eye like that?

  14. Re:Infinite resolution by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    But you forget. Each cone is not a single "pixel" to our retna. It is a sampling point for a complex signal transform. With the right tricks you can fool the eye into "seeing" several times the resolution it thinks it's seeing.

    The brain is brilliant at filling in gaps.

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  15. a few details and oopsies by kris_lang · · Score: 3, Informative

    Okay, just a few things about this and some problems.

    Microvision is the company doing this.

    What about saccades? When the eye moves rapidly over a long angular direction (which it does in tracking objects or changing your view) or a short angular direction (a.k.a. microsaccades, which happen multiple times a second), you get blurring which is normally suppressed by the visual attention system.

    When you do saccades across long persistence displays like LCDs, you will not see any major aberration as the light source effectively stays on. When you saccade across medium to short persistence displays (P21 phosphors for short, your regular TV or CRT for medium), it is possible to notice that there is either a shearing or tearing artifact.

    TV/CRT displays are scanned left-to-right at (say for 640x480 VGA at 80 Hz) 480*80=38400 times per second and scanned slow...ly up-to-down 80 times per second followed by that quick scan back up. Well you can try this at home (TV's at ~60 Hz show this a little more easily than most of our CRTs which are set at a less-likely-to-appear to flicker refresh of >80Hz):

    look at an object to the left of the TV screen. Then rapidly switch what you're looking at to the right side of the TV screen. The image of the TV will no longer look rectangular but like a shortened-horizontally and sheared (top to the leftish, bottom to the rightish) parallelogram. If you do a right-to-left saccade, the image will appear longer horizontally and top to the rightish of the bottom.

    Now the interesting thing happens with up-to-down saccades: if you go up-to-down at slower than or close to the same angular velocity as the scan line (depends on how close you're sitting to the screen) goes down the screen, the projected image will appear SHORTER-UP-TO-DOWN and if you actually match the scan-line's downward angular velocity, the TV image will seem to just be a poorly set up XF86 display of one pixel in height.

    If you have an effectively ZERO-PERSISTENCE direct write display, since the laser is being used to draw directly on the retina (or to project on a screen) rather than an electron-train hitting chemicals causing them to phosphoresce with a certain limited time before they stop glowing (PERSISTENCE...), then fixation has to be maintained or the illusion of motion based on the projection's position is destroyed. Laser projection systems try do multiple lines scanned at once or other fancy projection scan patterns rather than the usual cathode-ray-gun approach, but the saccade problem continues to be an issue.

    The saccade errors are the big to-do with projective laser displays for visible wavelengths, regardless of whether they are projected onto a screen or direct write onto the retina.

    The other problem is ... bah, it's enough already.

  16. Re:Safety is doable, but human limitations.. by DrKayBee · · Score: 3, Interesting
    When light falls on the retina, the vitamin A molecule absorbs the photon and changes its energy state. This leads to the molecule slipping out of the rod cell protein (rhodopsin) in which it is lodged. The conformational change triggers an electrical response that is registered as an image.

    With this background, I can think of a laser that has just enough power to absorb into the vitamin A molecule without having the power to heat up any other molecules around it - like the rhodopsin protein.

    The collimation of the laser merely allows precise control of where the image is created.

    Reference http://www.chemsoc.org/exemplarchem/entries/2002/u pton/rhodopsin.htm

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