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P2P Not Dead, Just Hiding
adavies42 writes "Contrary to media reports, P2P is not dying (PDF); it's just becoming harder to detect. In a paper for CAIDA, the Cooperative Association for Internet Data Analysis, researchers present evidence that the supposed decline in P2P traffic is actually due to a decline in easy-to-track protocols as those that change port numbers on a regular basis become more popular."
P2P will never die. It will just continue to grow and change. I don't know who these "researchers" are but I'm willing to bet that they all use Aol for Brodband to help supercharce their inet connections...
I've been getting my music via second hand stores or I've been getting free (not bootlegged, but totally freely given) music from places like http://www.modarchive.com.
I'll keep going until the companies that support the RIAA are bankrupted or they relent with their assault on fair use rights.
this couldn't be more on topic.
corporate interest in america, is what is making
peer to peer networks "evil" per se.
how is this not on topic?!
we arent free, due to corporate interest, the
government tells me what i can and can not do on
MY computer, in the privacy of my own home,
not harming anybody.
INCLUDING BEING SUED FOR PEER TO PEER USAGE!
off topic? haha. don't make me laugh.
dumb moderators. ugh.
Oh, great, now the animal rights nuts are complaining about P2P... what next?
p.s. Get used to the word... we'll be using it pretty commonly in another 5 - 10 years. The fact that I have more than a terabyte of data stored in my house would have been inconceivable to me a few years ago, even if most of it is old MST3K and Simpsons episodes, oh and a bazillion backups of work.
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
Traffic has never been symmetric. The whole concept of communications implies that information travels to where it is needed/wanted. There's no balance or symmetry implied, and none should be assumed.
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This tricky 'bandwidth' term you're throwing around. .
Are you sure you're not just trying to be clever with words?
"What's the frequency Kenneth?"
An analogy for what you're bemoaning the lack of can be illustrated by a football game.
A football game with 'symmetrical bandwidth' is one in which each person in the crowd has a bullhorn of equal output power. There's a reason not everybody at the game is allowed to blast their thoughts out to everyone else at full volume. Similarly, 'symmetrical traffic' on the 'net is a bullshit concept that has no relevance to how people use the net.
I'm sorry, but 'non-symmetrical bandwidth' is a non-problem. People who have large volumes of their own content (as opposed to people shoving around the same bytes to each other endlessly in a pathetic contest to see who can gather the most 'bulk' in content) can pay for 'send' bandwidth.
The economic model for DSL and other 'asymmetrical' connections is real. But carry on pretending it's a conspiracy if it amuses you to do so.
(and yes, moderator-fucks. tag this a 'troll' because it both confuses and angers you)
"What's the frequency Kenneth?"
We're talking about symmetry in terms of chunks of data being moved. I.e. the typical user, who might watch a video off the BBC News website. A 3.4 MB downstream. Almost nothing upstream. One could say that's the typical market that DSL was created for. Then people start trying to BE the BBC News website, or the 'cheap equivalent,' meaning they're piping big chunks of data upstream.
I certainly wasn't talking about technical details of the symmetry of a protocol.
I thought this discussion was about P2P, i.e. people moving big chunks of data around, often that they don't 'own' or have 'rights' to distribute.
It's all fine and nice to pretend everybody is a content creator. Very few people are. Big bunches of people just grab someone else's stuff, add distortion (i.e. compress it in a lossy fashion) and then shuffle it around with friends and strangers. It's obviously a better world where it's original content, and people are sharing their actual creative work. But not much of it is that yet.
"What's the frequency Kenneth?"