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New RIAA File-swapping Suits Target Students

Fletcher writes "The Recording Industry Association of America filed another round of lawsuits against alleged file-swappers, including students on 13 university campuses. The 750 suits come just a few days after Internet researchers released a study that found peer-to-peer traffic had remained constant or risen up to the early days of 2004, despite the pressure of recording industry lawsuits."

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  1. RIAA again going for the little guy by dreadfire · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Not to say that artists don't deserve money for their work, but again they are doing it the wrong way.

    For one, you can't stop it by going after people that don't have enough money to pay for cds. CDs printing costs are in like the cents (30-70 cents) to make the CD ready for packaging.

    They charged 15 dollars for most. Only give the artist maybe 70cents-1 dollar for each record sold. If they ultimately actually lowered the price to a more convient number maybe people will by them.

    Or even maybe have them actually good music to purchase. Going after college students who have enough to worry about is a horrible way to get support. Its a negative campaign that'll end up hurting them.

    1. Re:RIAA again going for the little guy by justforaday · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This reminds me of something I saw someone say on the news a few years ago. It was when the labels began making a stink about filesharing (2001-2002ish). Some guy they were interviewing posed the question "Why should I spend 18 dollars to get the soundtrack to a movie, when I can buy the DVD of the movie itself for 15?"

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    2. Re:RIAA again going for the little guy by shark72 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "I love how DVDs' prices are decreasing and will one day be lower than audio CDs' prices. How is it possible for such an old technology to be so expensive? (I know the answer but I'd really like their point of view...)"

      The average price of a CD is down to $13.29. That's a historic low, and the price drop is accelerating. DVDs are typically priced at $19 or $20, so DVD prices have a long way to go before they meet CD prices.

      The "old technology" involved in a CD -- the pressing -- is one of the less significant costs of production. A finished CD with jewel case and artwork runs around a buck in the quantities typically produced. Even if that cost were to magically go down to zero tomorrow, the cost to the consumer of a CD would only drop by a couple of bucks. The rest of the costs of a CD are things that have risen with inflation -- ie. rent, salaries, shipping costs, and so on.

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    3. Re:RIAA again going for the little guy by iamcf13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Why should I spend 18 dollars to get the soundtrack to a movie, when I can buy the DVD of the movie itself for 15?"

      You might not want that soundtrack clobbered by dialogue and sound effects when you listen to it to apreciate its artistry divorced from the movie.

      Only a 'handfull' of scores are good enough to stand alone as 'serious music' without the movie.

      Here are some of them.

      John Williams - E.T. The Extra Terrestrial, Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, Jurrasic Park, Superman

      Jerry Goldsmith - Patton, Star Trek: The Motion Picture, Total Recall, Supergirl

      James Horner - Battle Beyond The Stars, Brainstorm, Krull, Glory, Titanic

      Trevor Jones - The Dark Crystal

      Vangelis - Chariots Of Fire, Blade Runner

      Howard Shore - The 3 Lord Of The Ring scores.

      Wendy Carlos - TRON

      Elmer Bernstein - The Ten Commandments, Heavy Metal

      Lee Holdridge - Splash, The Mists Of Avalon

      Alex North - Spartacus, Cleopatra, Dragonslayer

      Hanz Zimmer - The Lion King

      Enjoy!

  2. P2P via anonymous proxies by trifish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We need to start using only P2P software that allows connecting through anonymous proxies. Those proxies should of course be located in countries that are known to be unwilling to collaborate with US/European authorities. It would make P2P much slower but should put these lawsuits to an end.

    1. Re:P2P via anonymous proxies by Usagi_yo · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Duel Servers with an alogorithm on the client that determines what portion and split of the bytes to send to you -- even with moderate encyption, it still looks like random data to network sniffers.

      Server A sends random encrypted bytes from the material requested and Server B fills in the blanks. Sent non-sequentially or out of play order and they'll have a tough time figuring out what the hell is being downloaded.

  3. Time To Strong-Arm Colleges and Universities by Prototerm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Those Colleges and Universities that haven't agreed to pay tribute to the RIAA by forcing all students to participate in things like the new Napster (participate = include the fee in the student's tuition) will be "strongly urged" to do so at the point of the RIAA's legal gun.

    Oh, well, at least it's a good education in the way the outside world "works".

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  4. All your child are belong to us ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Good model to get more people buying music. Pissed me off so much I haven't bought a cd in years.

    And I will not till they stop this BS. Remember all these losers back in the 60's and 70's I'm sure they copied there buddies music if they liked it.

    It's the same shit.

    The way to stop this crap is boycott music period. Listen to the radio if you must. A one year boycott and they will crumble like a cracker in a vise.

    What's the difference if you get it off the net or get it off FM? I'm sure if they like the music they'll go and buy it to support the band so they can make more for them to enjoy.

  5. Re:Who's being sued? by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The RIAA really changed the climate a lot..

    Nowadays I'd always see these little posters around the computer labs in uni reminding users that downloading pirated stuff is illegal and that we can be jailed for it yadda yadda..

    Needless to say every machine is now firewalled like nuts now.

    Way to go RIAA :(

  6. Current IP List? by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is there a current, up-to-date list of the sued IP addresses? The EFF's doesn't seem to have been updated anytime recently.

  7. And so we go and install I2P by ControlFreal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Get your copy here. It's an onion-routing network, and open mix-net if you like. It protects your anonimity by using a number of proxies to channel the data, and encrypting the data such that one always knows only the next hop to send it to.

    In contrast to, e.g., Ants or MUTE, finding your data scales as log(N) (N: number of nodes in the net), whereas Ants and MUTE scale as N^2. And in contrast to Freenet and friends, this actually works.

    Now, you can already just put all your music files in the eepsite/docroot folder of your install, and post your key on forum.i2p. That's enough for anonymous sharing.

    Even better: A BitTorrent system that works completely within I2P is in the works ;)

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  8. Re:students or university by sytxr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The RIAA tried such an argument vs p2p networks, fortunately the judge strongly disagreed.

    You wouldn't either want to blame the goverment for crimes which they could prevent or reduce if they only imposed complete surveillance on everybody, would you ?

    I, for one, hope they will not even try blaming it on the universities and am confident they won't try, because it would support the RIAA's stance to require more surveillance and control on neutral technologies like the networks in general(internet, p2p, university ones).

  9. Correction ... Again... Sigh by serutan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They charged 15 dollars for most. Only give the artist maybe 70cents-1 dollar for each record sold.

    I don't mind repeating this like a broken record. Eventually everybody will get it. Musicians usually get paid NOTHING for CD sales. Yes, by contract they get a small percentage, but that same contract also lets the record company first deduct all expenses of manufacturing, advertising, distribution, etc, etc, which usually leaves a ZERO net payment. For a more detailed explanation of how this works, read this article by Janis Ian, who has recorded more than 25 albums over nearly 40 years, and has yet to see a record company check with a plus sign on it.

    The short version is: Musicians make money primarily from live performances, same as they did for centuries before recording technology was invented. What CD sales do for them is give them exposure, which generates audiences for concerts. They get the same exposure whether you buy a CD, download it, listen to it on the radio or find it lying on the sidewalk. Paying for the CD does not help the musician.

    Record companies, on the other hand, make nearly ALL their money from CD sales. They justify all their business practices because they lose money on the songs that don't sell well enough to cover expenses. Essentially record companies are venture capitalists who seize all profits from a company until the startup expenses are covered, and then continue to get most of the profits after that.

    Would you finance your startup like that? I didn't think so.

  10. recording mp3s from internet radio stations by raf4444 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is quite a few programs out there right now that allow you "record" songs from streaming radio stations. ie. station ripper, rmbsoft audioripper. etc.. more available here - http://all-streaming-media.com/record-audio-stream /record-winamp-radio.htm

    I see this like recording songs from the radio or movies/shows from the tv which im not too sure of but is legal.. right?

    How would this be looked at by the RIAA?

  11. *Ahem* by trezor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nevermind that copyright was a priviledge granted on the condition that it should eventually, after a limited time benifit society and culture by release into the public domain. With the new de-facto perputual copyright, the grounds on which the priviledge was granted is gone. So is my respect for copyright.

    If you have any difficulty comprehending this simple connection, well I'll bother you again some time later.

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