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Pre-Election Discussion

With the US Presidential Election getting started tomorrow, this story is your official chance to discuss the issues of the election with other Slashdot readers. And no matter what you decide, if you can, just get out and vote tomorrow.

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  1. That's business by NitsujTPU · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, I'm sad to see the direction that /. has taken on many fronts.

    I moved over to K5 a few years ago, and the same thing happened, only quicker.

    Then I started reading /. again, because at least it hadn't gone as far as K5 had.

    That said, the reason for all of this is the expanded readership of /. The only reason that politics is such a popular topic here is because the demographic changed. /. didn't change their ideals so much (any site that becomes a business is there to make money guys), the readership changed and obviously wants these stories.

    By modifying your preferences, however, you can remove all of the politics stories from your front page. Think about it, by having a politics section, /. gets to make their cash, and you get a nifty flag to supress this garbage.

    1. Re:That's business by stromthurman · · Score: 5, Informative

      And after just double checking to make sure the preference still didn't work, I discovered, it now does. So kindly disregard this message.

      And to the mods, if you want to mod something informative, mod this post so people know the option is again available. My parent post is completely wrong now. (Except for getting cheap thrills from twisted panties)

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  2. This entire story is a troll by FortKnox · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not many people are going to even comment except rabid liberals, rabid conservatives, and rabid liberterians. And they are going to argue and argue and argue to try to turn the other to their side (which is impossible).

    Of course, there will be some jokes, but those will drown in a poll of foaming at the mouth arguments when this story hits about 2k comments.

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  3. apathy by viniosity · · Score: 3, Informative
    If there's one thing I'm grateful to Bush for it's that he's fired up more people to vote than in any time I can remember.

    These days it seems that more and more people can't be bother to even contact their representative or mayor to voice an opinion on issues that really matter. (examples in DC include lack of voting representation, gun ban repeal, stadium taxes, bad schools, etc). Instead they rely on a vocal minority who *sometimes* do the talking for them. This is the sort of apathy that leads to the atrophying of our civil liberties. When you can't be bothered to protest the Patriot Act (or even pay attention to it) you are basically giving your right to complain without being hypocritical. In the best scenario somebody fights for you, in the worst somebody will suffer trying to regain those liberties later on.

    With corporations spending millions of dollars to trump your opinion, a single vote is a powerful thing. Think of it as your way of spending millions in one afternoon. I hope that everyone who votes tomorrow will become more involved in the political process and write your representative about the issues that may matter to you.

  4. Re:Bush all the way... by xutopia · · Score: 5, Informative
    you should read the omissions made by CNN and Al Jahzeera in the transcripts! :)

    I can't vote (not a US citizen) but basing your idea solely on the purported "fact" that Bin Laden supports Kerry you may shoot yourself in the foot.

  5. Re:Be patient... by el_gordo101 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not for Supreme Court Justices, we can't. They are appointed for life. 3 (or 4) appointements could mean 20-30 years worth of left or right leaning influence in the highest court, depending on the winner of this election.

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  6. And while you're out there by meganthom · · Score: 5, Informative

    You might want to follow these tips outlined by electoral-vote:

    Find out today where your polling place is by calling your county clerk or checking mypollingplace.com

    Alternatively, call 1-866-MYVOTE1 to find your polling place.

    Check the hours the polls are open with your city or county clerk.

    Print the League of Women Voters' card in English or Spanish and put it in your wallet or purse.

    Bring a government-issued picture ID like a driver's license or passport when you vote. Some states require it but if there are problems, you will certainly need it. If you have a cell phone, take it to call for help if need be.

    As you enter the polls, note if there is an Election Protection person outside the polling place.

    If you are not listed as a registered voter, try to register on the spot. Some states allow that. Otherwise, talk to the Election Protection person if there is one or call 1-866-OUR-VOTE for instructions. If neither of these helps, ask for a provisional ballot, but you will need a picture ID to get one.

    According to Democracy Now, voting tricks abound in states like Florida and Ohio, so try to arm yourself (against both sides) if you live in one of these states.

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  7. vote for lesser evil, but get your guy a vote too. by TamMan2000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    www.votepair.org

    (depending on who you think is less evil...)

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  8. Like FDR and Japanese Americans by kuwan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bush has done more to roll back our constitutional rights than any president in history.

    It might pay to know a little bit of history before you spout off your ignorant blather. Anything that Bush has supposedly done pales in comparison to what Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) actually did during WWII. Look up United States Executive Order 9066 and read about the over 112,000 American Citizens that were detained during the Japanese American Internment.

  9. Re:Be patient... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Informative
    How many "wartime elections" do you honestly think you'll be alive to participate in?

    Sadly, for the last 60 years, most of them.

    2004 - Iraq
    2000 -
    1996 - Kuwait/Iraq/Bosnia
    1992 - Desert Storm
    1988 - Panama & Iran/Iraq
    1984 - Grenada
    1980 - Iran hostages
    1976 -
    1972 - Vietnam
    1968 - Vietnam
    1964 - Vietnam
    1960 - Cuban takeover by Castro
    1956 - Suez
    1952 - Korea
    1948 - Berlin airlift and WWII aftermath
    1944 - WWII

    Not all on the scale of the one we have now, but all significant military actions quite near the election.

  10. Re:Politics of Slashdot by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 3, Informative
    That's why my sigs are in Latin.

    My current one says: If Caeser were alive, you'd be chained to an oar!

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  11. Re:Why I think Kerry is a worse choice than Bush by shish · · Score: 3, Informative
    Saddam had the burden of proof to prove that he had gotten rid of the WMD's

    I'd agree with most of your points, but this argument keeps annoying me - how do you prove that you don't have something? Also you say saddam kicked out the weapons inspectors; from what I heard, the weapons inspectors wanted more time, but they were pulled out by the government because they weren't getting the results that the govt wanted...

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  12. Re:This "story" is click bait by achacha · · Score: 4, Informative

    I bet Ballmer lives in the most expensive van by the river.

    Now on related news, people should go out and vote, but not for a president, that part we are isolated by the electoral college, if you live in a prodimnantly republican state, your vote for a president does not matter.

    However, you should vote on state and local issues, this is where your vote counts.

    Also, remember that up to 4 supreme court justices are expected to retire in the next 4 years, which gives the next president a lot of clout over legal issues handled by the supreme court for the next 10-15 years (depending on justices that will be assigned by the president). At this point the supreme court is split with 1 judge leaning them towards more liberal views. With republicans you can expect conservative right wing nominations that will challange civil liberties and keep science down in favor of religion. Democrats will leans towards liberal judges that will allow stem cell research, medicinal marijuana, and such. The choice is yours as to which direction you want the country to go, but if we fall behind in scientific research, another country can take the lead and that tends to have a domino effect that affects our economy.

    Think and vote.

  13. Re:This "story" is click bait by inc_x · · Score: 3, Informative
    U.S. SUPREME COURT Court will hear medical pot appeal U.S. seeking to overturn state law protecting marijuana patients

    Tuesday, June 29, 2004

    The U.S. Supreme Court cast a cloud on the medical marijuana movement's biggest legal victory Monday when the justices agreed to hear the Bush administration's appeal of a ruling that protects marijuana patients in California from federal prosecution.

    The court will hear the case in the term that starts in October, with a ruling due by the end of June 2005.

  14. Re:This "story" is click bait by Lord_Raptor · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's documented in many places that this administration & his Gang-o-thugs have wanted to go into Iraq for quite some time.

    For example, just recently:
    Info from Bush Ghost Writer (misleader.org)
    Other articles to look at:

    in 2000, Bush wanted to invade Iraq if elected
    Neoconservative plan for global dominance
    US Dollar vs the Euro: Another reason for the invasion of Iraq
    US Rejected Peace offerings from Iraq and Afghanistan
    Report Proves Bush Knew He Was Lying About Iraq

    There are more, you just have to go look, and look beyond the distortion of facts that gets in the media and in the ads. (Neither party seems to care about real facts this election).

  15. Full transcript of bin Laden's video by Catullus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nobody will read this, because there are already over 1700 comments on this story. But there's now an - apparently - complete transcript of the full 16 minutes of bin Laden's recent video available on al-Jazeera's website.

    There's some interesting content that doesn't feature in the shorter transcripts. And (more interestingly for me) - this was released at 1pm GMT today. Why are the major media sites not covering it?

    (NB: moderators, this is clearly relevant to the US election :)

  16. Re:George Bush ignores the way of Christ by 808140 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hi. Quoting Leviticus is stupid. Leviticus also includes such gems as "If you shave your beard you will be killed", "If you disobey your father you will be killed", and a whole host of dietary laws that are universally ignored by Christians of pretty much all denominations.

    Catholics, who believe in the authority of the Pope, have a leg to stand on when they quote certain passages as being meaningful and discard others, because the Vicar of Christ has the authority in their Church to reinterpret the word of God. If you're protestant, you'll simply have to take it all or leave it all, or you're being hypocritical.

    Anyway, didn't Jesus say that the new covenant replaces the old?

    So, if you're going to use your faith -- a faith that preaches love, acceptance of others, and general tolerance (did Jesus shun the lepers?) -- to validate your own biggotry, at least quote the new testament. I'll even help you. Romans 1:26 has a passage which could be interpreted as anti-homosexual.

    But as the parent said, WWJD? Did he shun the lepers or the whores? No, he didn't. He loved. You should do the same.

    Why don't you actually read the bible sometime, instead of just parroting Jerry Falwell's talking points? There's holiness there, you know, but unless your mind is open you won't have the depth required to understand it.