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NASA Plans Robotic Lunar Scouts

bleckywelcky writes "NASA's plan to send robotic scouts to the moon in advance of astronauts is starting to take shape, but politics and the presidential election are stalling progress. Yet, NASA is already designing the first of the robotic explorers. The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter would return a global topographical map of the moon, measure deep space radiation in lunar orbit and attempt to find water ice at the lunar poles. Read the whole story."

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  1. Re:Backwards by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know what level and type of war the US is involved in by looking at their activities on the moon. For example:

    * Decades-long cold war with soviet block --> man on the moon
    * Months long warlet in Iraq --> robot on the moon
    * In time of peace --> gazing at the moon

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  2. Re:Backwards by Rand+Huck · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I see the correlation of the cold war to putting man on the moon, but what correlation does it have to Iraq? This is flawed logic at its worst, considering we've had Mars missions long before the Iraq war, and we're constructing the International Space Station in the name of world peace and cooperation.

    We've really only had one big mission to the moon so far, and I predict this lunar mission will have nothing to do with the war in Iraq or any other war/peace situation.

  3. Re:Backwards by Grendol · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems that we need a new sort of X-prize for this kind of thing too. I wonder how long it would take for private people to do it, as opposed to the program actually getting its funding.

  4. Re:Won't they just quit? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Leave it to the private companies, they've given ample evidence of capability superior to NASA's

    Some dude flying a light aircraft at 360,000 ft for several seconds in 2004 doesn't even remotely qualify as proving superior to NASA's putting tons of men and equipment on another planet and bringing back many pounds of samples back on earth in 1969, sorry.

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    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  5. OT: Pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful
    I was going to post a snide, pointless comment.

    But everyone else beat me to it.

  6. Re:Long day by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I read the title as "NASA Plans Robotic Lunar Scots"
    Was wondering what kind of kilts the robots would have.


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  7. Re:Won't they just quit? by purfledspruce · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Just think about this for a second. Here we have Rocket Scientists, real actual rocket scientists, who have done this before, and things still get messed up. What if we do leave this to amateurs? How many people will die because of small problems that private companies--who have never done this before--don't anticipate?

    And your cost estimate is waaay off. While NASA as a whole gets about $15 billion a year, the Genesis mission had a total cost to NASA of about $216 million, spread over several years for design, development, launch, and operations. You were two orders of magnitude wrong: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlkop/genesis.html

    And really, Space Ship One had problems on its first flight. Just check out http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/06/21/suborbita l.test/

    It's just lucky that the problems weren't such that they would be fatal. After all, who would expect that a cold day could blow up a Space Shuttle? Or that a piece of foam the size of a backpack would cause another to disintegrate, when dozens of pieces of foam usually strike the leading edge of the wing?

    Your comment actually shows that you don't know how complex spacecraft are. Take a look at http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/index.cfm

    Consider how bad the radiation environment of space is. Without a magnetosphere to guard it, a spacecraft has to take the full brunt of the radiation put out by the sun, as well as any quasars, pulsars, black holes, and other sources. It's not like you can go buy a radiation hardened computer at your local Best Buy.

    So, really, you might be tired of NASA, but nobody, and I mean NOBODY but NASA could have made the two Mars rovers, put them on Mars, and kept them functioning as long as they have.

    You might be tired of NASA, but we are only just now beginning to understand how the solar system formed, and the Cassini probe is a large part of why we might be able to figure it out.

    You might be tired of NASA, but I'm not.

  8. Re:Backwards by serutan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not backwards at all.
    Men used to have to get up to change channels too.

  9. Re:Won't they just quit? by xbsd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am so very tired of NASA. They may have accomplished some amazing feats, but they screw up so many things (sensors upside down, feet not meters, bad insulation, etc), and every time someone there miscalculates, BAM! there goes $10 billion of misappropriated taxpayer money.

    I rather spend 10 billion in the space program than 120 billion in a stupid war in the Middle East.

  10. Re:Fleshbots by tmacd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft...and the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor."

    -Wernher von Braun