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Movie Industry to sue File Sharers

Wack Valenti writes "SiliconValley.com reports that the motion picture industry, taking a cue from the RIAA, is planning to file copyright infringement lawsuits against file sharers it says are illegally distributing movies online. The first suits could be filed as early as tomorrow."

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  1. Stargate Atlantis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I got a warning letter from my friends at MGM and bay TSP about illegally sharing my 2 episodes of stargate atlantis. I thought, hey, they are tv shows, and they arent on dvd... why would they care. Well, they did care, and they sent me a letter. And you know what? because of that letter, I havent used a p2p app since. I think that if they just focused on scaring people with letters, they would get the job done just as well, without looking evil like the RIAA

    1. Re:Stargate Atlantis by Sheetrock · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Even if it isn't on DVD yet, sales of TV series on DVD are absolutely huge, to the point of outstripping movie sales. A good thing, given that advertising dollars are drying up (thanks to the fast-forwarding in Tivo-type devices).

      I wish they'd find a way to solve their problems without being outwardly hostile to the Internet, computer users, and/or their customers.

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  2. conspiracy theorists rejoice by Anubis350 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this comes right after bush gets re-elected.
    seriously though, it is kinda interesting that after a couple years of wait and see, they've suddenly decided to file these suits after bush (friend of corporations, etc) is firmly back in power

    mod me down as flame-bait if you want, I just find it an interesting point, not conspiracy but it makes sense; they waited until they knew the party that would support them was going to be in power for a while before they moved.

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    1. Re:conspiracy theorists rejoice by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Interesting

      seriously though, it is kinda interesting that after a couple years of wait and see, they've suddenly decided to file these suits after bush (friend of corporations, etc) is firmly back in power

      Hollywood was solidly backing Kerry, maybe this is their temper tantrum because "their guy" didn't win.

      LK

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  3. Not so long ago, the EFF suggested just this. by turnstyle · · Score: 4, Interesting
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  4. May I plug i2hub.... by Dr+Reducto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you are at a school that is an Internet 2 node,get on i2hub. It's only open to schools on I2, so the MPAA cannot get on to see what's going on. Additionally, d/l speeds are icredible, at about 300-400KB/sec.

    I have fully moved to private networks like this, and my University's DC++ hub. I was shocked when i saw all these people at school using public networks like Kazaa (corrupted now) and Ares and BT.

    1. Re:May I plug i2hub.... by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What the hell? Your university pays for Internet2 for RESEARCH and EDUCATION, not for escaping the MP/RIAA. Those had better not be my tax dollars you're wasting.

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    2. Re:May I plug i2hub.... by zeromemory · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Most universities just happen to route inter-university communications over the Internet2. Consequently, the Internet2 hub, a network for university students' file-swapping, is routed over the Internet2 and gets great speeds for it.

      Sure, the i2hub users are probably not using the Internet2 for research or education, but it's not like the users are circumventing any systems to use the Internet2 - university networks are just routed that way. If you're really concerned about i2hub users wasting your valuable tax dollars, perhaps you should contact the appropriate people and convince them to implement systems to route P2P traffic over the regular Internet.

      Besides, it might actually be CHEAPER for all this data to go over the Internet2...

  5. Funny thing is.. by SocialEngineer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was told I was actually a target, by our dean of men here at my college. I have no idea why - I wasn't downloading or sharing any movies, nor could I even CONNECT to p2p networks because of the filtering systems in place (I use p2p to share security docs and my own music I have written). Yup. He said the MPAA had contacted the school and was prepared to sue if it was in necessary, or something like that. I guess I'll find out tomorrow if he was full of crap or not, won't I? :)

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  6. USENET by Longtime+Lurker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This has always made me wonder. Why are they targetting just p2p and not USENET? I know you can pull down a lot of files from USENET with the benefit of a centralized server so you don't have to wait for a ton of people to jump on to get your bandwidth capped.

    I always wondered why USENET is not targetted.

  7. Re:Why only now? by metlin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's not _exactly_ the first time.

    The MPAA has been doing this for quite a while.

    I remember when they sent a C&D letter to Pirate Bay, a filesharing site in Sweden for putting up the sound-track of Shrek on Torrent.

    Ofcourse, the response was even better - classic Fuck You.

    And I'm sure we all remember the fiasco of movie premiers being up on filesharing networks, and how the MPAA raised a ruckus.

    Definitely not the first time, I guess they're just going to intensify their efforts more.

  8. Yawn... by Aaron+England · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Dear MPAA, My ipaddress is 199.2.120.89. My slashdot username is my real name. I download most of my movies off suprnova.org. Oh yea, and I'm not afraid.

  9. Wont... by dark-br · · Score: 4, Interesting


    mount /mnt/cdrom; cp -r VIDEO_TS /temp; eject (put in blank dvd9 media; dvdgrowisofs -Z dvd-video /temp/VIDEO_TS be *much* easyer?

  10. Re:what has the world come to by iamplasma · · Score: 5, Interesting
    They just want to steal more money from more people.

    Fill me in here in case I missed something, but how are the movie theaters stealing money from anyone? I mean, at least you can claim (however implausibly) that stealing music is okay because the companies make rediculous margins and rip off the artists. That doesn't even remotely apply to movie studios though, it's not like actors are underpaid (in fact, I understand they have a very strong union), and the amount they charge customers is far less relatively speaking. I mean, paying a few bucks to see a $200million movie isn't a bad deal.

    So to reiterate my question, how are the movie companies stealing your money?

  11. Takes one to know one... by petra13 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Ok, in all fairness I haven't verified whether or not this is true (feel free to correct me)- but supposedly the reason the movie industry established itself in California in the first place was because people who wanted to make movies were having patent issues with Thomas Edison. They went out west where enforcing patent law wasn't a big deal and screwed Edison out of a profit.

    So now the RIAA are going to go after people for violating copyright law and screwing them out of their profit. *Sigh* Not that it's the same people in charge now... but still. Anyone want to vote hypocritical bastards?

  12. Cease and Desist! by tsm_sf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interesting... my ISP just forwarded a C&D email from the MPAA aimed at my IP address. I'll be curious (an understatement!) to see if they are successful in getting my snail mail address out of my ISP after the Verison decision.

    I /had/ a wireless router running to provide access to anyone in range (it'll be back up after I get around to blocking off everything but 80 and 25, i guess), but I'm assuming that the whole "common carrier" exemption to network traffic only applies to corporations large enough to buy their own congressman.

    So... is this the end of offering open access to your neighborhood? I have no interest in monitoring traffic over my network, but it looks like the buck stops at the little guy (as usual).

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  13. What exactly is the objection? by cait56 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just a thought for consideration.

    Perhaps the RIAA's actions are objectionable not because they are protecting Intellectual Property rights, but because they are using illegal search techniques and shotgun accusation techniques in a clumbsy attempt to do so.

    I for one would have no objection to the MPAA suing people whom they have determined are offering copyrighted material for download based upon public web pages or other public directories. And where they have actually downloaded enough of the file to verify that it is indeed the copyrighted material and not just a matching file name.

  14. Re:Why only now? by Eric+Giguere · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Probably because hard disks capacities are so large and DVD burners are now pretty much standard equipment on PCs. There must be a corresponding increase in movie pirating, critical mass must have been reached.

    Me, I wish they had a "burn on demand" (BOD) model where you pay a minimal fee (think rental cost, ideally cheaper) and get to burn a movie on DVD. No case, no extras, just the movie.... I guess video-on-demand is almost the same...

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  15. Freeway Blogging on Movie Theaters? by Cryofan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One way to fight the movie industry is to use freeway blogging. The movie industry is different from the music industry. A lot of their revenue comes from concentrated sources--namely these huge cineplexes that are frequently located near high traffic areas such as freeways. You could hurt them and cost them some money by placing signs on these high traffic roads near the cineplexes. The signs would tell people about the lawsuits.

    More on Freeway Blogging.

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  16. Coincidence? I think not! by rueger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Am I the only one who is spooked by the number of posts here that claim that gee whiz, "we got a letter from the MPAA or RIAA, or just plain got scared of getting arrested, and now we have completely stopped filesharing"? And don't we feel so much cleaner?

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  17. What do I get? by arose · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sometimes I have to ask myself, what do I get out of copyright as it stands today? Public domain is stale with little adding to it while production of copyrighted works and profit from them is at an all time high. The works I want aren't (legaly) avainlable here anyway, not to mention insane prices compared to typical income. What do I get? Marketing to get me excited over things I can't buy, thank you copyright!

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  18. Re:Remember when the MPAA were the good guys? by vorpal22 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I, personally, don't pirate because of my desire to save money. I pirate because I am viciously opposed to the tactics of the RIAA and MPAA: price fixing, suing their customer base, standing in the way of P2P technology, buying politicians, etc...

    I cannot, in good faith, give money to their organizations, and I feel absolutely no shame in stealing from them, given how they're nothing but a bunch of management swine who price fix and steal from those that work for them.

    I think a company that's largely honest breeds honest customers. I, for instance, would never pay for a piece of Microsoft software on purpose. In good faith, I could not do so, because their new licensing schemes, etc... make me feel sick, and I do not want to show my support for such things. You might tell me not to use MS products then, but the reality of the situation is that in many cases, you *need* Office to get by. OpenOffice might be decent, but at least on OS X, it's ugly as sin and I'm not convinced that it's fully interoperable with MS Office.

    On the other hand, I feel compelled to pay for my Apple software, because I believe that it's reasonably cheap and that Apple cares about their customer base. I feel the same way about the independent artists I listen to, and usually buy their CDs. I'm all for supporting the little guy and very much want to do so; I just feel no qualms stealing from a filthy rich megacorporation who doesn't care about me in the slightest.

  19. MPAA has a stronger case than RIAA by AWhistler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When you can walk into a store, pay $16.99 for a DVD, new release, or less for an older movie, and you get not just the movie, but trailers (who watches these?), commentary, featurettes, and subtitles, I think this is a reasonable price to pay for a DVD. I see no reason to share these movies with strangers.

    Now, paying $16.99 or more for a CD with 10-12 songs, 9 of which I couldn't care less about, that's another story. While I haven't and won't share, I can certainly understand the argument.

    So I don't really have a problem with MPAA doing this, as long as the prices stay where they are as a result.