Andreas writes "Apple users could be glad to know that YellowDog Linux 4.0 is shipping. As always, Terrasoft, YDL producer, is selling PowerMacs with YDL pre-installed. Soon we could see ISOs available for free downloads, as in the past."
The Terrasoft link is borked.
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The Terrasoft link is borked. There's an extra space in it.
Re:this is not a troll.
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MikeXpop
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Yellow Dog Linux is specifically designed for the mac, whereas Ubuntu is for x86 and PPC. I've never used Ubuntu, so I can't say for sure, but I know YDL works seamlessly on all non-breaking-edge macs (AKA, when the G5 came out they had to run it on Jet Engine mode). I know with some linux distros (*cough*mandrake*cough*) sound buttons, screen brightness buttons, and even the eject button don't work out of the box.
Also, Yellow Dog Linux is Red Hat based whereas Ubuntu is Debian based. That's important to note.
That's all I can say without having tried Ubuntu. It really depends on what you want to do. Most people I know who use YDL use it on pre-G3 hardware that OS X doesn't support.
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Re:The Passion of the Converted.
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Agreed, but holy crap, did it take a long time to get running. The kernel that ships with the Debian installer image (a 2.4-based one) had a kernel panic just from inserting my wifi PC card on the old wallstreet g3 I was installing it on. Same deal when booting. I had to manually adjust the memory allocation in the pcmcia config from the debian installer.
And this problem is symptomatic; if you're going to run Debian on a Mac, try to get it on a newworld machine so you're not left tooling with BootX or (god forbid) Quik. There's very little documentation for oldworld machines and it seems like most people who went the Linux-on-Mac-hardware route stuck with vanilla distros like Yellowdog. I tried YD but hated yum; and now that everything (finally) works, I'm happy as a pig in shit with my Wallstreet laptop running Debian.
Re:Nice Cautious Optimism
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a quasi-substitute for a window manager, that would at least let you fiddle with the color/texture scheme of aqua is Shapeshifter. it's a nice little app, and many of the themes at least play with the shapes and textures underlying the interface. not a total solution, but it adds at least some more flavor to the view.
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Reply: Virtualization
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I have been waiting for YDL 4 to become available for a bit now, as I have a G5 and would like to run Mac-on-Linux to virtualize some of the things I do here at work. Here are some of the tasks that I do that would be great on MOL:
Mac OS 9 administration - tools that only work with OS 9. I have a Blue and White G3 on my desk for the three times a month I have to do this. I would rather have a VM and get that ugly thing off my desk.
Mac OS X Server administration - it would be nice to have a VM that is always set up with a constant list of servers in Server Admin, Server Monitor, and Apple Remote Desktop. Today, I don't get this because of...
Application deployment automation - I do on the Mac what many people do with MSI or InstallShield on Windows. I figure out how to get applications onto 60+ Macs without having to visit each one, or even look at the installation procedure. Tools like FileWave, Radmind, and NetOctopus are great for this kind of thing, but in order to test the deployment, I prefer to have a clean machine, rather than one that I rip out the installed components, and maybe miss a few. VMs are wonderful for this.
For these reasons, I have tried almost every PPC Linux distro out there to find one that I don't hate which will make me more efficient in my job, making me happier, and thus raising the quality of life of everyone I work with.
See! Linux does make a positive contribution!
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The Terrasoft link is borked. There's an extra space in it.
Yellow Dog Linux is specifically designed for the mac, whereas Ubuntu is for x86 and PPC. I've never used Ubuntu, so I can't say for sure, but I know YDL works seamlessly on all non-breaking-edge macs (AKA, when the G5 came out they had to run it on Jet Engine mode). I know with some linux distros (*cough*mandrake*cough*) sound buttons, screen brightness buttons, and even the eject button don't work out of the box.
Also, Yellow Dog Linux is Red Hat based whereas Ubuntu is Debian based. That's important to note.
That's all I can say without having tried Ubuntu. It really depends on what you want to do. Most people I know who use YDL use it on pre-G3 hardware that OS X doesn't support.
Etiquette is etiquette. He kills his mother but he can't wear grey trousers.
Agreed, but holy crap, did it take a long time to get running. The kernel that ships with the Debian installer image (a 2.4-based one) had a kernel panic just from inserting my wifi PC card on the old wallstreet g3 I was installing it on. Same deal when booting. I had to manually adjust the memory allocation in the pcmcia config from the debian installer.
And this problem is symptomatic; if you're going to run Debian on a Mac, try to get it on a newworld machine so you're not left tooling with BootX or (god forbid) Quik. There's very little documentation for oldworld machines and it seems like most people who went the Linux-on-Mac-hardware route stuck with vanilla distros like Yellowdog. I tried YD but hated yum; and now that everything (finally) works, I'm happy as a pig in shit with my Wallstreet laptop running Debian.
a quasi-substitute for a window manager, that would at least let you fiddle with the color/texture scheme of aqua is Shapeshifter. it's a nice little app, and many of the themes at least play with the shapes and textures underlying the interface. not a total solution, but it adds at least some more flavor to the view.
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I have been waiting for YDL 4 to become available for a bit now, as I have a G5 and would like to run Mac-on-Linux to virtualize some of the things I do here at work. Here are some of the tasks that I do that would be great on MOL:
Mac OS 9 administration - tools that only work with OS 9. I have a Blue and White G3 on my desk for the three times a month I have to do this. I would rather have a VM and get that ugly thing off my desk.
Mac OS X Server administration - it would be nice to have a VM that is always set up with a constant list of servers in Server Admin, Server Monitor, and Apple Remote Desktop. Today, I don't get this because of...
Application deployment automation - I do on the Mac what many people do with MSI or InstallShield on Windows. I figure out how to get applications onto 60+ Macs without having to visit each one, or even look at the installation procedure. Tools like FileWave, Radmind, and NetOctopus are great for this kind of thing, but in order to test the deployment, I prefer to have a clean machine, rather than one that I rip out the installed components, and maybe miss a few. VMs are wonderful for this.
For these reasons, I have tried almost every PPC Linux distro out there to find one that I don't hate which will make me more efficient in my job, making me happier, and thus raising the quality of life of everyone I work with.
See! Linux does make a positive contribution!
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