Solar Cell and Capacitor in One

Roland Piquepaille writes "Solar cells can convert solar energy to electricity, but that's about all they can do. You need batteries to store, and then release, this electricity. But this extra-step might soon no longer be necessary. According to PhysicsWeb, Japanese scientists have developed a new type of solar cell which integrates an electricity storage device. No more batteries or recharger! The 'photocapacitor,' as they call this new device, is also twice more efficient than a typical silicon-based solar cell when used on cloudy days. So apparently, you'll soon be able to travel lighter by leaving your various rechargers for your many handheld devices at home. Read more for other details and references."

Comments

The Stage is Set

[brandonp]

This is very exciting, alternative sources of energy are getting closer and closer to becoming more viable. After reading an article about how rising oil prices are helping alternative energy, I think the stage is getting set for a real revolution. Being realistic, we have a long way to go,

Miyasaka says that the next goal is to increase the charging voltage and the charge-discharge capacity to a practically and industrially useful level for applications.

Brandon Petersen
Get Firefox!

umm yeah.....

[Anonymous Coward]

but can it run linux?

Burst uses

[wowbagger]

I can see this being really nice for "bursty" loads, like highway emergency lights, SCADA monitoring systems for pipelines, and anything where the demand is in short bursts for high current - you could eliminate quite a bit of extra stuff.

However, I wonder what the hold-up time and leakage currents look like - if this thing charges, then is deprived of light for a while, does the charge leak off? One of the problems with standard solar cells is that you have to disconnect them from the battery when the light levels drop, or they will discharge the battery - if this design avoids that it will really reduce the complexity of charging circuits.

Re:Burst uses

[AnwerB]

One of the problems with standard solar cells is that you have to disconnect them from the battery when the light levels drop, or they will discharge the battery

Not too hard to avoid, simply connect it to a diode, so that the electrons only flow one way. You should probably use a schottky diode which has an extremely low voltage drop (more info) since you probably won't be producing too high of a voltage to start with if it's a single solar cell.

Re:Burst uses

[nomel]

It's too bad they didn't include the capacitance of the cells. You might need quite a few to blink something big like a road light.

One concern I have is, if the capacitor is fully charged (voltage across plates equals voltage coming from solar cell), then, won't it not be able to charge anymore? Wouldn't the current flow to the cap (therefor output) be maximized if you *didn't* let them charge?

If it only helps at increasing efficiency for low light, then, more power to them. tehe.

Will be quite a while

[BranMan]

Miyasaka says that the next goal is to increase the charging voltage and the charge-discharge capacity to a practically and industrially useful level for applications.

Basically, this is going to be in research for a long time before anything practical comes out of it. Best thing I could see this used for is low-drain devices in remote locations - but only if this is significantly better and cheaper than a separate solar cell and battery system. Also, right now batteries wear out much faster than solar cells - will this new panel's charging capacity last 20+ years?

Very cool, but overall, I'd say, not practical.

Re:Will be quite a while

[cjameshuff]

It doesn't use batteries, which store electrical power in chemical reactions, it uses a capacitor, which stores static charges on two electrically separate plates. It actually appears to use an electrolytic capacitor, which will eventually wear out, but should last much longer than a battery. However, they store less energy, and they tend to lose charge faster.

I'm not sure what the benefit is supposed to be. It seems almost certain to be less efficient, less resistant to damage, and shorter lived than a separate device designed specifically for energy storage, which doesn't have to be manufactured in a thin layer. The articles claim it is more efficient in dim light than silicon cells, but don't give any reason why...I wonder if they are using some faulty measurement of "efficiency", such as output voltage. (It might charge to the same voltage on an open circuit in dim light, even though it can't deliver as much power.)

However, it seems to truly be a completely different type of solar cell: it's not just a silicon cell layered with a capacitor. It is possible that it really does behave better in low light conditions. The reference to the photoreceptor dyes makes me wonder how it'll stand up to full sunlight for prolonged periods, though.

Obligatory SC2K

[Anonymous Coward]

But does it explode every 50 years?

Fuck you

[Anonymous Coward]

And the blog you rode in on Roland.

OK, but...

[D. Taylor]

...when are they coming up with the Flux capacitor?

Alternative Energy.

[Awestruckin]

Does anyone remember reading about coolchips http://www.coolchips.com/ and their sister companies such as powerchips? The efficiencies they have created in energy conversion are astounding. 1 square inch coolchip was enough to provide all the cooling for your freezer. And then with powerchips they can convert some of the heat energy off of the hot side of the coolchip back into electricity.

I even envisioned powerchips, with their great efficiency of transferring heat to electricity being used in conjunction with the Earths natural heat sources, such as volcanos or just hotspots like yellowstone. And hello... no waste byproducts?

It finally does look like we're making some progress.

Re:Alternative Energy.

[cjameshuff]

Cool. However, the impression you give is a little inaccurate...these are just an improvement on the Peltier junctions already used to cool processors. That "1 square inch coolchip" doesn't provide the energy to cool your freezer, it just converts electrical energy produced somewhere else into a temperature difference. And you could use the temperature difference generated to produce power, but that would impede the cooling and just waste power overall...rather than powerchips, the hot side should have a heat sink and fan to dissipate heat as quickly as possible.

Also, operation produces no waste products, but what about manufacturing and lifetime? You have the same questions as you have for solar cells. However, I think this is a more viable source than solar for most of the world, and maybe for extracting more useful power from the waste heat of power plants and industry...and it'd be very helpful in spacecraft powered by radiothermal generators, such as Cassini. RTG's are heavy, this could allow much smaller ones to generate the same power.

At last!

[Spudley]

Yes! At last!

I can finally invent a solar powered torch without being laughed at. :-D

Re:At last!

[Midnight Thunder]

Just in case you were hoping to get the market in time: ;)

Solar Powered Torches and a light for the garden

Missing from the article.

[murderlegendre]

So.. exactly how much will these cost per watt, vs. conventional photovoltaic cells?

Details, details..

Re:Missing from the article.

[cuteseal]

You're quite right... almost as important as technical feasiblity is commercial viability...

Whatever

[Anonymous Coward]

These guys look for the Defense Industry.

Read Defence Industry's latest on shortage of batteries in Iraq and how they all had to resort to using half-experimental rechargeables. Why you think new Stryker has charging slots for infantry.

Just like was the case with many US Patents, this will be "shelved" and deemed "non-profitable", while Pentagon develops and deploys it. Example? Earth Battery was screwed and laughed at, while Pentagon quetly deployed it in the field. Field phones used to come with an extra set of rods you drive into the ground and moist with liquid (pee, spit hard enough, etc.). This was before solar panels' costs dropped from the orbital prices.

I think powercells are probably deployed in the Abrams, that's why you do not see any shopping carts on their site. You know, why aim at the single consumers if potentially you can pocket billions of greenbucks and retire at 25.

We are all suckers of mass-media and amateur marketing (no pun against Slashdot and alikes / anti/whatever, tho, it is big tabu). Unless you have access to someone who does real research, you will never hear about real stuff. Hopefully, Internet will stay free and open for awhile.