Megapixel Cameraphones Compared

prostoalex writes "MobileBurn published a 'horribly un-scientific' test of three megapixel cameraphones. The contenders are the Sony Ericsson S700i, the Siemens S65, and the Motorola V710." Sadly, none of the phones seem to be able to perfectly capture a mere school bus in image form.

Comments

Lenses

[DrVxD]

The problem with cameraphones is largely the lenses. They suck.
For several reasons:
1) They have to be small (it's a phone, it has to be easily pocketable)
2) They have a very hard life compared with a "real" camera.
3) Most people now view mobile phones as disposable items, replacing them every year or so, so there's not a whole lot of point in spending a lot of money on a decent lens.

(Could this ever be the first RELEVANT first post on slashdot?)

Re:Lenses

[accelleron]

I'll have to agree with you on the first two points, but:

"1) They have to be small (it's a phone, it has to be easily pocketable)"
1. Sure, they have to be small, but so do digicams... putting the same lens system as that used in good "credit card" cameras couldn't hurt any.

"2) They have a very hard life compared with a "real" camera."
2. Once again, they could bother to learn from the real camera manufacturers. Would it kill them to put a cover over the lens - one that opens/shuts automatically like in most modern cameras.

"3) Most people now view mobile phones as disposable items, replacing them every year or so, so there's not a whole lot of point in spending a lot of money on a decent lens."
3. I am unsure about you, but I only buy a new phone every time my contract runs out, which is ~ every two years. The difference between a 1 and 2 year timeframe is significant, as in 1 year, technology hardly evolves much in phones (from the first cameraphones in 2k3 to the MP cameraphones - simply an enhancement, not a revolution), but in two years enough has changed to make the transition worthwhile. Besides, I hardly consider something I'll use for two years "disposabe"... as a matter of fact I've yet to dispose of a cell phone - most of them go to my family or as spare parts (LCD mod for my PC, for example)
Anyway, I hardly have $250-500 per year to spend on the latest phone, so my current one had better be good enough to last me two years or more.

Re:Perfect Basic Functions First

[winkydink]

that's a battery issue, not something directly under most mfgs control as they don't design batteries, they buy them from others

Cars are, uhm okay, but how about OCR?

[ahfoo]

I think the most intriguing use of camera phones is for OCR. Of course to make it work you'd need WiFi or WiMax rather than regular wireless telephone protocols. But if you could stitch together a few shots per page and quickly upload them to your home computer form the library, well that would be interesting.

going to cut-n-paste this for future discussions:

[Johnny318]

Three points:

1. Cellphones come in different models, some with cameras, some without. Happily, the ones WITHOUT cameras are usually cheaper, which is great for those that don't want "extra stuff I will never use."

2. Cameras on a cellphone are extremely useful because it's WITH YOU all the time, and with relative ease you can send a picture from where you took a picture to an arbitrary email address. Even on the low-end .3megapixel you can take useful pictures that may serve a purpose.

3. The last thing you do before you die is crap your pants.

My eyes ache from rolling to the back of my head whenever I click on a slashdot cellphone article, because it always goes down this road (and yes, this post is part of that).

Re:Useless features worth billions of dollars

[boomfart]

The best use for phone cameras I have seen was at a part supplier, an electrician sent his apprentice to pick up a blue whatsit like they got 3 months ago the apprentice lined up every thing we had that could match the despription and sent the pictures to someone on site to compare to the existing unit. He reckoned he did things this way a lot and it made life much easier.

Symbian owns the smartphone market

[Anonymous Coward]

I love my Nokia 7610.. I've heald the LG, and the Nokia is definately a step above the others.

Why Symbian? It gives developers more access to the phone than Java does. Things like:

-Fullscreen Caller ID
-Blacklist (sends anyone on it to voicemail)
-CallCheater (adds background noice to your call)
-Plays all N-Gage games
-3rd party IM program that supports voice & sending pictures over IM
-watch downconverted movies in widescreen
-NES emulator
-Sega Genesis Emulator w/perfect speed

That's just a tiny list of the hundreds (thousands?) of 3rd party apps and games available.

basically anything the other phones can do, symbian lets 3rd party developers do better.