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Best Buy: 20% Of Customers Are Wrong

Mr Show writes "Ars Technica has an article up discussing Best Buy's strategies to drive off the deal hunters. It's a good follow up to the Slashdot story from back in July, and offers some details on what they're actually trying to do."

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  1. Not an upsatanding policy by ravenspear · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What they are basically saying is that 20% of customers are wrong "for Best Buy." In essence, they are trying to rid themselves of intelligent shoppers who look around for the best deal and are usually more knowledgeable about what they buy and instead cater to the sheep and the unwashed masses that will buy anything regardless of features and price simply because a Best Buy salesman tells them too.

    This is yet another attempt to dumb down consumers to make the more receptive to truly weak sales pitches. Best Buy won't be getting any more of my business if they value this philosophy.

  2. Re:I don't remember, but... by Monkelectric · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You can goto CC if there is a good deal, but you have to make fun of the sales staff when you're there. That was the compromise.

    BUT we still hate BB for calling the cops on customers who ordered stuff on their website.

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  3. Re:I love the letter that announced that change by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This unfortunately is not surprising. One thing I have noticed about modern corporation customer relations is that when the customer is clearly going to be screwed, they always try to spin it as some sort of benefit. Comcast does it when they have their annual 20% rate hike.

    Example:
    Dear Comcast Customer, you can now pick from an exciting new cable package with more home shopping channels plus the Hallmark channel! Try not to notice that it's $10 more expensive than you are used to paying.

  4. Upstanding but treacherous by Dr_Marvin_Monroe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't act shocked by Best Buy's policies. They've deliberately made an effort to make their pricing confusing in order to cull an extra few dollars out of the "unwashed masses" that come through their doors. You are exactly right that they (BB) are attempting to rid themselves of the smart consumers. Their policy seems to be more about differential pricing and impulse purchases than about offering a fair deal to everyone. That's just the way they operate, they've picked their target/strategy and they'll try to milk it for everything they can take. Get over it, spread the word, and shop somewhere else! I'm not saying that you (writer) have any problem with it, I've just seen some of the other "OUTRAGED" responses and feel they're misguided.

    We all know that rebates will most likely NOT get sent in, extra money for them... Most people will buy the service policy AND throw the unit away when it breaks 6mos. later. Don't fall for these stunts... That's the best way to transmit the message to the Best Buy management. Punish them on the bottom line. That's all they've thought of, so it must be important to them. Show them that you are watching too. Say "NO" to the service plan, no matter how many times they ask, then walk out without purchasing anything when they try again (for the 4th time).

    Secondly, there must be a supplier SOMEWHERE that treats the customer like they're smart and offers a fair deal without the tricks. Seems like that merchant should be looked to as the "place where cool & tech. savy people" shop. That would help boost their sales as almost EVERYONE would want to be flattered by being thought of as "hip" and "tech. savy" just for shopping there. You get the idea, it spirals up... Help those places to succeed!

    Changing this works a little like the election strategy, when you get another customer to switch, you actually hurt Best Buy TWICE! Once when they lose the customer, and again when they vote with their dollars for the competition, making them relativly weaker in the marketspace.

    Anyone reading this, start the change by putting down some places where you've felt like you got an AWESOME deal without any tricks, from a sales guy that you trusted and who didn't try to sell you with a bunch of technobabble (that you know is false). The list of Cool places to shop starts here --> (you reply)

    1. Re:Upstanding but treacherous by Deekin_Scalesinger · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not me. I just called on Friday night to find out why my order hadn't shipped yet from placing it Thursday morning. Usually it leaves within hours of placing it. There was no menu - a friendly woman picked up instantly. Really instantly. She informed me that there appeared to be a slight delay in my order leaving a certain warehouse, but shr would do her best to have it expedited. I checked my mail when I got to work this morning and found that newegg had shipped it over the weekend. Since they state they don't work weekends, they apparently rolled up their sleeves to get rid of their backorders. Score another point for them - I have spent $1500.00 in the last two weeks with them and tell everyone I know about their selection, price and service. Just want they want - a loyal customer spreading the word for them.

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  5. Eh. by RyoShin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The main point of any discussion is that it's your money. If you don't like their practices, vote with your money and go somewhere else.

    That said, something similar was posted on Fark a couple of hours ago, so I've already read it (given, at work.) Looks like it was a different article on the same topic.

    From what I can tell, they're pissed off at people buying items, getting the rebates, then returning the items, and more. Basically, they're mad that people are turning a profit on stuff bought from a Best Buy store.

    I've heard complaints and gripes about Best Buy all over. However, you get horror stories from every store, regardless of big name or how crappy it is.

    Perhaps I'm biased, but I've never had a bad experience at a Best Buy. The one near where I live has gotten good recommendations from people, while the one near my college tries to skate around the extended warenties at all costs, among other things. But that's what I've heard from others, never experienced myself.

    I worked at a Best Buy (the one near my home) for about three months (occasional/seasonal, in Computers.) I felt I was lucky in the fact the people I worked with actually knew a good amount about Computers, whereas other places have had general sales people. The atmosphere I worked in was nice one, everyone was helpful, and I can't remember having a bad day (not even Black Friday, but I was just a gopher then.)

    Was I told to push the replacement plans/extended warrantees as often as possible? Try and get people to buy accessories? Try and sell services with computers? Yes on all accounts. But you know what, it's a business, they turn a profit with that, and they need the profit to counter the low profit they make off, say, video game consoles.

    If you have that much of a beef with Best Buy, stop whining and just got shop NewEgg. I'll be browsing around Best Buy, using the sales and rebates as I like, and still getting a good experience. If I ever get a bad experience from a Best Buy, I'll just stop going to that one, but not the entire chain.

  6. Let the SELLER beware by Clod9 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Another poster mentioned that Best Buy, like many other corporations, have changed their sales and marketing practices to such an extent that we now negotiate for electronics, rather than simply purchasing them. The price is no longer fixed: it depends on coupons you may hold, on a competitor's advertising circular you may have seen, your willingness to buy insurance^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hextended warranty coverage, your willingness to divulge information in order to claim a rebate.

    What Best Buy and other corporations haven't figured out is that we, the buying public, don't have any sympathy for them. They've set the rules, and we will take them for everything we can get.

    It would be different if it was a single owner. When I buy from a family-owned business down the street, I'm not going to cheat him; I will even pay more than the going rate, because I like the person and I like how the business is run. But when I buy from a corporation, the gloves are off. If they offer a half-price deal and forget to specify a limit -- fill the shopping cart! About 5 years ago, I figured out that they are trying to TAKE EVERY PENNY THEY CAN GET FROM ME, so I don't feel the slightest pang of conscience when doing the same back.

    I'm not talking about stealing. I'm only saying that, when dealing with Circuit City or Best Buy or Dell or WalMart or Safeway or ToysRUs or Home Depot or anyone else, the megastores have lost all pretense of actually caring about their customers. It isn't even slightly dishonest to gouge them if they let you do it -- because they're gouging you with every means at their disposal. Try it -- you'll find you enjoy the challenge of sticking it to them!

    (And yes, I'm sure I'm the devil incarnate for some stores I shop in.)

  7. Re:Not upstanding? by nelsonal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's quite a bit more devious than that. Low price pledges are signals to other competitors that you are ready to end a price war, or enforce a cartel decison. If you match low prices you can find out that one of your cartel partners is breaking their half of the bargain, and you didn't have to spend anything on cartel enforcement (your customers did it for you). That said, if you don't already have a cheap DVD player, a little birdy told me that they would have the cheapest ones on black friday.
    Best Buy's CEO (or one of the chiefs) is a firm believer that one of the best ways to boost profitability is to reduce the customers that don't make you any money and provide excellent service to those who make you tons. It's a bit like the difference between a Nordstrom's and Wal-Mart (grew up in the NW so Nordy's was the only high end retailer for a long time). One has free coffee, and salesfolk who kiss your butt. The other is doing volume business. The former makes up the services they offer with a markup, the latter makes a smaller margin on each sale, but has much, much lower overhead so they each net about the same amount on each dollar spent. Best Buy's goal is to become more like Nordstrom's but without pricing themselves out of the latter market. This is a very tall order, and we won't know if they succeeded for about a decade.
    If it wasn't over in the Ars article, the WSJ (free today) has an excellent article about the whole topic. It's available here.

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  8. Re:Profiling 101 by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On behalf of all the computer enthusiasts who like taking a peek at old hardware, i have to wonder how many customers you drove away who just wanted to have a poke through a box of stuff that looked old as they were

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  9. Re:I love the letter that announced that change by letxa2000 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I just visited a Best Buy for the first time in about 9 months (I live outside the country) last week to pick up a cable for my Palm. I was surprised to find that there was virtually nothing PDA-related. Not just Palm, pretty much everything PDA-related was gone. They had a few token devices but virtually no peripherals or accessories.

    Is this representative of a trend away from PDAs, perhaps as a result of more-capable cell phones? Or has Best Buy just decided there isn't enough money to be made in this market?

    I left without buying anything. I used to go to Best Buy because, in a pinch, I could find just about anything I needed. If this is part of a trend away from that "we have everything" approach I'm willing to bet that they're going to lose a lot of traffic in their stores.

    If all they're interested in is selling $10,000 home theaters I think you're going to see a lot of Best Buys closing down within a few years. Sure, there's a lot of margin on those big-tickets but the volume isn't there to support stores of the size that Best Buy runs.

  10. Re:Words to Best Buy: Suck it up by Deanasc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was shopping for a new laptop at the Best Buy in State College, PA. I got into a very nasty verbal fight with some highschool kid trying to push the extended warranty on me. I ended up leaving but not before demanding to see the manager. He wasn't there but called me when I got home. He agreed that the altercation took place. He agreed that it shouldn't have happened. He asked me what I wanted them to do about it. I said usually when a merchant is wrong they make it up in the form of some nominal gift certificate. Just to say "we're sorry we know we were wrong here's $20 (less then .2% of what I would have purchased) so you know we're sincere." He accused me of trying to rip off the store. I haven't been back to any Best Buy now for almost two years.

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