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What's Next For Mozilla?

ezberry writes "After releasing version 1.0 of Firefox, what's ahead for the Mozilla Foundation and the venerable Firefox browser? With 6% of the market, and a notable exclusion from Google's desktop search software, PC World states that Mozilla may be thinking about adding desktop searching to the browser. Using plugins from third party vendors (and more), desktop searching may become a regular part of firefox. The article also talks about Mozilla improving firefox's popup blocker and getting OEMs to include firefox on their machines."

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  1. On demand porn by kesler · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they had on demand porn, it would have a 70% market share.

    1. Re:On demand porn by JFlex · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can see it now, Sublime with RSS feeds... *Pull down menu* ->"Cute redhead laying by pool" ->"Hot blonde playing with teddy bear" etc...

    2. Re:On demand porn by mojo17 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Already thought of :-) Check out Pornzilla
      Now the fox is ready to take over the world.

  2. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  3. Plug-in or regular part? by Rich+Klein · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Which will it be? A plug-in or a regular part of Firefox? I'd be okay with a plug-in, but Firefox doesn't need extra bloat, and I don't need another way to search for things on my own computer.

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    -Rich
  4. LDAP based profiles please by nick-less · · Score: 5, Insightful

    still missing from ns4...

  5. Imperial overstretch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Beware of trying to extend a browser into a platform. It may just end up being bloated to the point where people don't like browsing with it. XUL has already made Firefox deathly slow on computers more than 3 years old.

  6. Re:Pre-installed by cortana · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Until Microsoft jacked up the price for anyone wishing to distribute a non-IE browser.

    Besides, come Windows update time, the user would be presented with the following:

    WARNING: Windows Update could not detect a secure browser on your system. Using an insecure browser may make you more vulnerable to hackers and viruses. Would you like to install a secure browser (Microsoft Internet Explorer 6) now? Cancel [OK]

  7. What's next? by palad1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Turn sunbird into a really kick-ass iCal / Outlook replacement goddamnnit!

  8. Re:Rank them by importance by pbranes · · Score: 5, Insightful
    My in-laws recently bought an emachine from walmart. It came with winxp sp1, ms works, some other stupid software, and **netscape 6.2**! That software is so old and outdated that they are just begging for someone from firefox to come along and show them how much better firefox is than netscape 6.2, and how emachines' customers would be happier and benefit more from firefox being in the default install.

    About desktop search, I don't really view it as that important of a feature and not worth too much time. How often do most people search for files on their hard drive - my guess is not that often. I think of it like this - whenever my internet connection goes down either at home or at work, I don't sit there and start browsing my hard drive - that's boring. I turn off my monitor and go do something else. All of my information is tied to the internet - not to my hard drive, so a desktop search feature, for me, is very low on my priority scale.

  9. Re:Exclusion from Google Desktop search? by cortana · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Possibly they were referring to how GDS does not index your Firefox cache, history and bookmarks. Unless it does, and I didn't notice :)

  10. Marketing problem by suougibma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think Mozilla's biggest problem is their marketing strategy, or lack thereof. Of course us geeks know what it is but we only make up what, about that 6% of the market share they have? Talk to anyone outside the nerd world and they will likely stare blankley at you when you mention FireFox or Mozilla. Marketing and consumer awareness should be their next step.

  11. Will IE copy Firefox? by arbi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Personally, I think Firefox redefines the websurfing experience. I have Firefox as default browser on all my machines.

    However, what is to stop MSIE from copying all the features that made Firefox so good? Are simple features like "tabbed browsing" patented/patentable?

    1. Re:Will IE copy Firefox? by RandoX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nothing stops MSIE from copying. Opera had tabbed browsing at least 5 years ago, and Firefox copied them.

      //Disclaimer: I'm not sure Opera was the first browser to have it, my point is that it's not a unique feature...

  12. desktop-feedback@google.com by loac · · Score: 5, Informative
    desktop-feedback@google.com to me

    Oct 17
    Thank you for your note. Google Desktop Search is only partially compatible with Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox. Desktop Search does not currently support Thunderbird.

    How Desktop Search works with Mozilla and/or Mozilla Firefox:

    If you install Desktop Search and open a Mozilla or Firefox browser window, you'll see a 'Desktop' link appear on the Google homepage. You can click this link to go to the Desktop Search homepage whenever you want to search with Desktop Search.

    Webpages that you view in Mozilla and/or Firefox aren't added to your Desktop Search index, however, so you won't be able to find them with Desktop Search.

    We realize that many of our users use Mozilla or Firefox as their primary browser and Thunderbird as their email program. We may consider adding increased Mozilla, Mozilla Firefox, and Thunderbird support in a future version of Desktop Search.
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    The only thing that is yours, is your soul; everything else is borrowed.
  13. What's next? = I'm worried by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1) Feature creep
    2) Feature creep
    3) Increase market share

    This is the point where much software starts to go down hill. It happens with open-source stuff as well as commercial applications. Things that one check box become a whole screen of options. The product goes from 10MB to 100MB. More "non-features" are added that average users don't want.

    A better idea at this point is to go back and refactor portions of code that aren't clean. Or to eliminate options by making the browser smarter. Fix security holes.

    If they want to add features beyond this point, I believe they should fork the product into some sort of "advanced" version. I don't want desktop searching. I don't want a better popup blocker (AFAIK - It is absolutely perfect as is!). I don't want even one checkbox in the preferences. Mozilla and Firefox do very well with mom & pops, which is very important for gaining market share. For every new feature or option, you alienate them a little more.

    Even in a fast-moving field such as software, there is a time to slow down the pace or even stop.

  14. Re:I've been saying it for months.. by eric_brissette · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think there is a Rage Against the Machine song in there somewhere.

  15. Re:Speaking of percentages... by Googo · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 6% from the post seems to indicate that it is Mozilla Foundation's percentage of the market rather than just Firefox's percentage.

  16. Re:Rank them by importance by magarity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Desktop Search is a must-have for me

    Whew, I just can't figure out why people need desktop searching; clean up your icons if you've got so many of the things you need a search engine! Sheesh!

  17. Re:Rank them by importance by Mant · · Score: 5, Informative

    How often do most people search for files on their hard drive - my guess is not that often.

    At home, no. At work, all the time. I have folders with code, folders with documents, archive Outlook folders, and current Outlook folders. All of which Google Desktop indexes, and searches very quickly.

    Google Desktop search is far faster than Outlook's search, and will search all the archives at the same time. If I want to find a mail conversation about something, I use the desktop search. If I know I had a peice of SQL that updated a certain table, but can't remember exactly what it is called, I can use the desktop search. Find a presentation, announcement or memo that isn't very recent, search.

    Just like on the internet, where these days I don't keep huge numbers of bookmarks, I just search. Now while I try to keep files on my machine reasonably orgnaised, if it is something more than a month or to old it is much quicker to search than to browse.

    I know I keep my stuff way more organised than most people at work. I think it is the work environment where the deskptop search is most valuable. People have loads of important information scattered across their hard drives, and search lets them get there easily.

  18. K.I.S.S. by HMV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Firefox is outstanding in part because it is just a browser that works well.

    Why has Firefox rocketed in popularity when Mozilla has been around forever? Partly because they stripped out the mail/news reader and all of the other bloat that was unnecessary for a good web browser. ~4 MB download for an excellent browser. That's all I want and need.

    The direction of Firefox specifically should proceed further down that road. Fix the bugs, make sure rendering is perfect according to web standards, and focus on the browsing experience. Continue to refine security and privacy features.

    Plug-ins are fine; they leave the choice of including them to the user. But for Mozilla, just leave the browser lightweight and work on the way it does its job.