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Greens and Libertarians Team Up to Demand Recount
cyberformer writes "The Ohio election rules state that any losing candidate can demand a manual recount. Today, David Cobb and Michael Badnarik, the predidential candidates for the Green and Libertarian parties, announced that they are joining forces to do just that. A manual recount is important because it will include every ballot cast, whereas the first count only includes ballots that can be read by machine. It could even tip the state (and thus the election) from Bush to Kerry."
No one is ever forced to concede. the only reason a person makes a speech is for show. the speech itself has no legal force. If kerry does indeed win Ohio then Bush would lose those electoral votes, lose the election and be on his way back to texas in Jan '05. Even with the recount though, Kerry winning is a longshot, no need to get the hopes up.
The electoral college doesn't meet to vote until December 13th this year.
It's not officially over until they have voted. The results of that vote aren't unsealed and counted until January 6th.
Conceding elections is just a nice way of saying, I won't personally oppose you any more.
If the outcome changes thru some other process and the electoral college votes Kerry into the Presidency, that's it, Bush wouldn't have to concede anything.
Ohio doesn't use electronic voting. Over 70% of the state [including Cleveland, where I live and voted] still use the old "hanging chad" ballots.
The only regions that use the electronic voting machines are the wealthy republican suburban areas. Therefore any recount will help Kerry. Whether it will help enough is anyone's guess.
Here. And please do, it's worth every penny, even if just to confirm the ability / inability of the machines.
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The Greens might, but the Libertarians don't.
Democrats and Libertarians are very very different when it comes to economic policy.
Funny, since Nader wasn't even on the ballot in Ohio because the signatures he (or rather, his paid "volunteers") collected for his petition to be placed on the ballot didn't hold under scrutiny, and were rejected by the Ohio Supreme Court.
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No, congress cannot refuse the electors votes. The votes are collected in each state, sealed and sent to the President of the Senate. The Pres of the Senate opens them and counts them before both houses of congress.
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If you would prefer to donate the money via the Badnarik campaign instead, here's the link.
Here's what Michael Badnarik himself posted in response to some comments in his blog:
I find the percentage of negative comments here somewhat surprising given the number of "please ask for a recount" messages that I've alread gotten. However, I'd like to clear up a serious misconception that many of you apparently have.
This demand for a recount is not expected to change the outcome. I may be "Quixotic", but I'm not crazy. David Cobb and I have no expectation that the results of the election will be changed in the slightest. What we ARE hoping to do is to find out just how corrupt the system really is. Why bother voting for anyone if the electronic machines are going to report a pre-determined outcome.
I saw a bumper sticker that expressed the idea very well. It said: DIEBOLD - MAKING MACHINES THAT VOTE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
Comment by Michael Badnarik -- 11/11/2004 @ 6:23 pm
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