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MSN Search Roundup

Thomas Hawk writes "Well after almost 24 hours of public release, The Seattle Post Intelligencer seems to have the best round up on the professional opinions on the new MSN search beta. Bottom line seems to be that nobody is going to be switching over to MSN Search from Google anytime soon. The story includes opinions by Walter Mossberg, John Battelle, The Wall Street Journal and others. "

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  1. what is he smoking? by kalpol · · Score: 5, Funny
    the product bears all the hallmarks of the feisty, upstart side of the company.

    What is he talking about? Microsoft hasn't been a feisty upstart since about 1986.

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  2. look and feel by slashpot · · Score: 5, Funny

    What gets me is the blatant rip off of Google's UI. This coming from Microsoft - the trademark happy lawsuit company.

  3. Also on the BBC... by Noryungi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Test driving 5 search engines

    BBC conclusion is that Google is still the search king, but others (Yahoo, Ask Jeeves) also offer interesting search results.

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    1. Re:Also on the BBC... by foistboinder · · Score: 5, Funny
      Maybe Google's the search King in terms of Volume, but the quality of the results is turning to shit real fast.

      I think Google's simply reflecting the web turning to shit real fast...

  4. Gates Logic by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Gates: We will reinvent the wheel. Let's make it rounder.

    Everyone Else: Google is works, without any extra crap, and that's why we like it.

    Bill Gates: Use our new rounder search engine! It is powered by Yahoo, until 2005! Plus we have added lots of special crap! (mostly because so many people asked for it!)

    Everyone Else: Don't you ever learn? We said we didn't want anything but a simple, accurate search engine. We have that already. Do something else.

    Bill Gates: But the first 50-100 results now show the websites that have *paid* to be listed! How can you beat that? If they are going to fork over this extra cash to be listed, they must have really quality websites, right?!

    Everyone Else: Yeah, that makes total sense to us.

    Bill Gates: Plus Google doesn't have neato browser interstitials! They are lacking in the creative marketing department! Seriously!!

    Everyone Else: What excites you, does not excite us.

    Bill Gates: Our search is easier to get to because a link comes with every copy of XP! You know how hard it is to put a link on the desktop or in the Start Menu? We should be given the Nobel Peace Prize, or something.

    Everyone Else: I think we want a search engine that filters out any website or company affiliated with Microsoft.

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    1. Re:Gates Logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Walter Mossberg: Very promising, not quite good enough to replace Google

      CNet: Good, won't be put in front-line use for a few months

      John Battelle: Potentially better than Google

      Search Engine Watch: Very promising, not quite good enough to replace Google

      WSJ: Pointless anecdote

      Slashdot: Exprets agreee! Mirco$oft sucks, noone wil use it!

  5. The best part is by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's already getting either googlewhacked or biased from the inside. Just look at the top two results for searching "More evil than god" (no quotes)

  6. Not quite so negative. by Capt_Troy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bottom line seems to be that nobody is going to be switching over to MSN Search from Google anytime soon.

    The bottom line is not quite so overcast as this statement seems to imply. None were negative, but most mentioned that this is beta quality and had the potential to tackle google in the future.

  7. more evil than satan by fishmonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    search for

    "more evil than satan"

    on

    http://beta.search.msn.com/

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  8. xfree86 is *still* "sexually explicit" by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Several readers pointed out that xfree86 isn't blocked by the beta MSN search engine, as it was earlier...well I think it still is.

    The difference is that the defalts "Safesearch" settings are set to "Moderate - Filter sexually explicit images only">. I changed it to "Strict - Filter sexually explicit text and image results">, I got this message for xfree86

    The search xfree86 may return sexually explicit content.
    We didn't return results because your SafeSearch setting is set to Strict. To get results using the current search, change your SafeSearch setting.

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  9. Re:What reason would someone switch? by RailGunner · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Well they do until Windows XP Service Pack 3, where your IE home page is set to the MSN search, and if you try to type in Google's URL, Clippy comes up and says "I see you're trying to search the web. Would you like assistance in using MSN Search?"

    Or did you not get that memo? :)

  10. paperclip by alatesystems · · Score: 5, Funny

    It looks like you're searching for porn. Would you like help?
    *blink* *blink*

  11. The Death of Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I worked for IBM (namedrop) in 95-96, I stood up at a conference and said to the CEO in front of 1000 dyed-in-the-wool delegates "There is a buzz about Windows, and ALL the students are using it. Today's students are tomorrow's CIOs, engineers and buyers. What is the board going to do to recapture that buzz for OS2*". To IBM's credit I wasn't fired on the spot, but there again, the answer was the usual deadwood remarks about "market need blah datacenter blergh blah".
    IBM then went into a dark period with OS2, OS400, MVS, TSO, JSL, CICS, MQ, DB2, Websphere, PC, AIX etc etc etc. They became all things to all people and had an application to do anything you wanted. The sales guys treated the customers like cash cows and leveraged the datacenter iron like crazy. Customers hated it and you physically could see the pleasure on their faces when UNIX and PCs arrived so they could stick one on IBM.
    Sound familiar?
    Today there is a buzz about OSS that MS can only dream about. But more to the point, MS are falling into the same trap as IBM. They are trying to diversify into areas best left alone for example Handsets and Search Engines. They do both badly, they leverage their installed base like crazy and the sales guys treat their customers like cash cows (coincidence? not really. There is every chance it's the same sales guys).
    The reason such mega-companies act like spoilt two-year olds is a result of how capitalism works. Investors always want growth. It is unacceptable to stand in front of the AGM and say: "We made 100 gazillion again last year. Same as the year before and the year before that". So if you already own 98% of the PCs then you can't go up - you have to go sideways into new revenue earners, eg search engines. And you will never, EVER be as good at that because its a market or a technology or a customer or a partner or a culture you do not understand. Mistakes are made. Things go wrong. People get sued. Then you start to die. Its a bit like bacteria in a flask. Ironically anyone with a pension scheme will have some money invested however indirectly in this process. I smile every day knowing I am doing my bit to eat away Microsoft from the inside just as my serial installations of Linux of friends systems eats them from without.
    I digress.
    Add to this death spiral Bill's insane need to WIN AT ALL COSTS and you have the recipe for a firm that is at odds with itself: It has to grow but can only do so by changing but it can't change because it always has to be RIGHT. When it is more important to be RIGHT than to be ACCEPTABLE then it's only a matter of time until you have no customers.

    *I didnt come across Linux until a month or two later after which I became a Linux advocate.