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Boeing Successfully Tests Anti-Missile Laser

dankinit writes "MSNBC is reporting that a 'Boeing Co.-led team has successfully fired for the first time a powerful laser meant to fly aboard a modified 747 as part of a U.S. ballistic missile defense shield.' The test called 'First Light' has a budget of $474.3 million in the fiscal year 2005 and is part of a larger $10 billion dollar missile defense system."

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  1. The codename for the 747s by Limburgher · · Score: 5, Funny

    will be "Sharks", in fulfillment of the prophecy of Dr. Evil. . .

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  2. Are they still.. by thegoogler · · Score: 5, Funny

    Calling it star wars? and are they going to get sued for that now?

    1. Re:Are they still.. by div_B · · Score: 5, Funny

      Calling it star wars?

      Yes, except this time, America shoots first.

  3. From the Article: by intangible · · Score: 5, Funny

    And apart from a loud "BOE-ING" sound when the laser was discharged, all went well.

  4. Re:i hate to be blunt... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, until 9/11 there had never been a terrorist flying a plane into a new york skyscraper, so it could never have happened.

    Oh wait... it happened twice

  5. The Official Site... by the_mighty_$ · · Score: 5, Informative

    The official site about this laser is here

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  6. This is just budgetary gamesmanship by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Relax, nothing to see here. This is just a test to show they can move things forward another inch toward their 1000-mile goal. By moving that inch, they get to apply for more money, which is the real point of this.

    ""It showed they work," Kenneth Englade, an agency spokesman, said of the laser's six identical, pickup-truck-sized, modules linked to fire as a single unit. "The rest is fine-tuning."

    For "fine-tuning" read: "everything the system is supposed to ultimately do." It's like writing the first 10 lines of code in a large project and saying "the rest is fine-tuning."

    "Philip Coyle, the Pentagon's chief weapons tester under former President Clinton and a critic of early missile defense deployment plans, described the test on Wednesday as very important to people working on the program.

    "They deserve a lot of credit for having gotten this far," he said in a telephone interview. "But they've still got a long way to go" to demonstrate shoot-down capability."

    That's all this is, something important to the people working on the program. They want more funding. But as far as actually shooting anything down, well that's an entirely different matter:

    "Among other technical challenges, Coyle said, engineers must figure out ways to fire the laser for the longer time needed to zap a missile without damaging the optics through which the beam passes -- a kind of technical Catch-22."

    Details, details. But give us money and we'll happily explore the Catch-22 for a lot longer!

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  8. That's great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...can it shoot down a suitcase? Because that's where the bombs are gonna be...

  9. Re:i hate to be blunt... by arbi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This project is probably meant for defense against China but they only pointed out North Korea for diplomatic reasons. :P

  10. Re:i hate to be blunt... by Glock27 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    but when was there ever a missile attack on any north american target?

    Er, given that the device is mounted in an airplane there is no requirement that it shoot down missiles over America.

    It would have been quite handy, for instance, when Iraq was launching Scuds in the first Gulf War. Those were nervous times.

    It might still be handy in the airspace over Iran...

    This money seems like a complete waste, that could have been spent on a much more useful project - like, say, an asteriod defence system.

    Directed energy weapons are going to be a big part of future military technology. This program is as much R&D as anything else. We are already spending a lot of money on phase 1 of an "asteroid defence[sic] system". They're called "telescopes".

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  11. Re:Any problems? by Tirinal · · Score: 5, Funny

    You misunderstand. The missile defense system isn't an insurance against pissing off someone pretty big, it's a validation of pissing off someone pretty big.

    Welcome to big stick foreign policy.

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  12. Re:Missile Defense by PPGMD · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not designed with US based ABM. Instead it's meant to be used over the battlefield, as a replacement for the Patriot missile system.

  13. Re:Missile Defense by imemyself · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and they're not crazy enough to launch them
    Kim does not strike me as a particularly mentally stable. If, say, an invasion of South Korea failed, I could easily see him launching missiles on the rest of the world. After WW1 and WW2, we stopped a lot of programs and left our selves to some extent, vulnerable. Just because there may not be a clearly defined threat today doesn't mean there couldn't be one tomorrow. Who's to say there couldn't be a coup in Russia, or that Putin couldn't start to go back to the old Soviet days. Who's to say that China will never invade Taiwan. Who's to say that India or Pakistan won't try to start a nuclear war. Missile defense systems shouldn't defend just the US, they should defend our allies around the world who could be targets, and to say there's no use for them and that the world will live happily ever after is extremely short sighted and naive.

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  14. Not to be overly nitpicky but by xant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let us be clear: you hope Islam will one day kill off millions because they will not convert? And then become educated, civilized and toned down?

    I kind of hope that, now that the world has seen the effects of holy wars that the education and toning down can happen without the slaughter of millions.

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  15. Troll much? by Whyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep it up. Im sure your country will fall into civil war soon enough.

    Why is it that we can't have mature discussion of military technology? Some ass always has to post wishing a previous poster and/or his country a quick death, herpies, or civil war.

    Please grow up....for the children.

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  16. Re:Sounds Great - can it fix Oakland's School syst by trulymadlydeeply · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Again, great point, except that you give no justification whatsoever for your free-market-in-the-public-school-sector attitude. If your point is that we should get rid of public schools altogether you'd have a leg to stand on...but to merely say the federal government shouldn't support local schools requires some sort of handwavy proof.

    If your argument is that it isn't the federal government's domain to support education, then we'd also expect the federal government to get out of university level funding. We'd also expect the federal government to stop regulating anything other than interstate and international transactions. If its just a matter of stopping bailouts maybe you'd mention the federal deficit, or the PG&E bailout, or what about Long Term Capital? But you mention none of these...you just don't want to help out urban kids.

    No, what you are saying is that it's not worth 20M to prevent the over 200,000 kids that will go through OPS in the next 20 years from getting a crappy education. Holding kids responsible for financial mismanagement by a group of adults that took place in many cases before they were moved to Oakland, entered the USA, or were BORN is a ludicrous stand to take. A rational thinker would estimate the cost of trying in a court of law, incarcerating, paying welfare for even a few of these kids will quickly surpass 20M....but a self-made know-it-all who has taken Econ 1A will just chant the familiar free-market laissez faire refrains.

  17. Re:i hate to be blunt... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many portions of Isam feel that any other religion is inferior and almost sinful, and thus many hate Jews, Christians, etc.

    Uh, huh. That would be why the Quran refers to Jews, Christians and Muslims as all "children of the book."

    For instance, in the terrorst handbook thing the British found on a raid, there were discussions on why it is ok to torture. The basic idea was that Muslums are allowed to torture others because they are Gods children, while others are not allowed to.

    Let me clue you into something - the muslim extremists are about as Islamic as the KKK are Christian. Taking what they say as representative of the religion is a great way to delude yourself, and justify all kinds of terrible things.

    But, let's take the response one step further, you say that modern "Christian" societies have progressed beyond such barbaric reasoning? That would explain this memo from the current administration rationalizing torture in the "war on terror."

    So, just who now are we suppossed to be rooting for?

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  18. Re:Related to the pilot that got lasered? by deglr6328 · · Score: 5, Funny

    doubtful. the pilot still had a head after the incident.

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  19. Re:Missile Defense by Atzanteol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Germany will never try to conquor Europe! They'd have to be crazy to try! Why would they piss off that many countries? Not to mention attacking the Soviet Union in the Winter?

    You act as though it's a sane world, and nobody ever acts irrationally... The US was behind the ball at the start of both world wars. We don't want to be in that position again. Remember what happened to the technically challenged French in WWII? I believe they call that "steam rolled..."

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  20. Re:I hereby declare by foniksonik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hmmm.. what happens when this technology is co-opted for use in powering spacecraft? or better yet used to power the space elevator? Interestingly enough we Americans manage somehow to re-use military technology for non-military purposes ALL THE TIME.

    Think of it this way... the US government is contracting a company or companies to figure out how to transfer large amounts of energy vast distances with pin-point accuracy.

    The fact that the primary excuse for developing said tech is to shoot down missiles shouldn't hinder you from seeing the potential applications in other areas.

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