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Intel Quietly Introduces 3.8GHz P4

BatonRogue writes "I didn't see this anywhere else, but it looks like Intel has quietly launched their Pentium 4 570J running at 3.8GHz. The J denotes Intel's Execute Disable Bit support, which they have also quietly introduced (it seems to save face of being 2nd to support it behind AMD). AnandTech seems to be the only place to have a review of the 570J. It performs reasonably well and even better than AMD in some areas, while falling behind in things like games. AnandTech has a nice one page benchmark comparison of the 570J to AMD's 4000+ as a quick reference."

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  1. Weird by FiReaNGeL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can someone justify that they compared Intel's 3.8 Ghz to AMD 4000+ (4 Ghz equivalent, theorically)? Maybe they wanted to compare both company highest speed CPU... anyway, the only positive side I see in these high speed CPU is that they'll drive prices of their (somewhat) slower counterpart down... the AMD 3500+ is already at a very interesting price/performance ratio, it can only get better... and HL2 is only days away!

    1. Re:Weird by ssimontis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If they wanted to compare the top processors from each company, why didn't they test the new P4 against an AMD 64 FX system?

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      Scott Simontis
  2. I can guess why... by Avoid_F8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    while falling behind in things like games.

    Perhaps that's why it was quietly introduced? Gaming is really the only reason for a CPU upgrade these days. Knowing that AMD would achieve another victory in that area, why would they spend money promoting yet another little bump to the P4's clock speed? My guess is that they're waiting for the real kicker; this is just something to keep their heads above the water until it's ready.

    1. Re:I can guess why... by grmoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Disagreement.

      There is always a need for more processing power.
      Computer vision, speach recognition (semantic processing is a b*tch), etc are all still well beyond current computers' computational capabilities.

      If you're just thinking about computers as being for 'work==Word Processing/Spreadsheet Editing', and 'play==computer games', them you need to look a little further.

      More CPU power is always welcome. We shift what 'ordinary' means as computational power increases. Think of the day when you just speak to your computer and it speaks back.. Science fiction, well still yes, but it is verrrry likely that increased computational capability is the catalyst for such a thing.

    2. Re:I can guess why... by Canth7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just wait til Longhorn comes out. 2GB of RAM and 4Ghz so you can turn on all the eyecandy. The biggest reason to make your OS prettier (and more bloated and resource intensive) is because you can. Imagine trying to run Windows 98 with all the visual effects on a 486. Windows, KDE, OSX, etc, have increased the visual effect requirements slowly over the years. Sure you can run your XP desktop without a background or window animations or cleartype fonts, but it doesn't come out of the box like that. If you have a faster CPU, your OS/applications will use it...eventually.

  3. I feel the need. The need for speed by Underholdning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I once attended a lecture by one of the designers from AMD. He said, that the clock speed of the processor was a key selling point. In reality, all the development that went into making processors operate at a higher clock cycle could be spent in much better ways, making better and more efficient processors. But - alas - efficiency doesn't sell. High numbers on a package does.
    Anyway, does any of you actually have a specific need for high frequency processors? Most of the projects I've been working on always had other bottle necks, preventing me from utilizing the CPU completly.

  4. Re:Benchmarking methods by Slack3r78 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If this were a Linux comparison, I'd probably agree with you. But as it stands, outside of the Mozilla test, I saw almost entirely commercial Windows software, which you don't have the option of compiling yourself.

    While a Linux comparison might give you a better idea of the raw capability of each processor, keep in mind that Windows has a 90% marketshare, and as such, the way Anandtech tests is closer to "real world" performance for most people.

  5. No 64 bit benchmark.. by freelunch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The benchmark referenced in this article gives Intel a big break by not comparing the Athlon 64 in native 64 bit mode. The few articles that do typically don't come right out and show the graphs side by side with Intel. 64 bit support makes a big difference in an increasing number of applications.

    Another important fact - a socket 939 based motherboard purchased today should accept a dual core Athlon 64 in about a year. The dual channel memory controller in the 939 version means there will be plenty of memory bandwidth for that upgrade.

    Encoding and transcoding video and audio are two great examples of CPU intensive work that aren't "games".

    I run natively compiled Gentoo on my Athlon 64 system.

  6. The CPU Wars will be won by the company that... by HungWeiLo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...successfully introduces the first integrated I/O chipset which can sync up all critical peripherals to be on the same bus speed. Video cards and CPUs far exceed any processing capacities provided by memory or storage components. While there still may not be the "killer app" to justify all that extra power, it will allow the respective company to temporarily get a hearty headstart in the dick-waving contest.

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