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Atlantis Found. Again.
Tufriast writes "Paul McCartney and Mythic eat your heart out! BBC News has an interesting revelation regarding the lost city of Atlantis: "American researchers claim to have found convincing evidence that locates the site of the lost kingdom of Atlantis off the coast of Cyprus."" Hey, here's an idea: The idea of an almost mythical lost civilization is common thread throughout all old human societies - much like, say, really big Floods. Perhaps there could be more then one story that fits? But, no, that wouldn't be a simplistic enough answer to be sound-bitten into oblivion.
Actualy, I should have said Christian Bibles, since there are more than one version of it (translations, additions/omissions). The reason I qualified it as the Christian Bible is so that the New Testement would be included, since the Old Testemant is also the basis of Jewish faith. And yeah, other faiths use the term Bible.
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But I say I am skeptical about this discovery. Mainly because of who funded the expedition. It cost about $250k, which was raised by proceedes from book sales and donations, with the largest donation of $60k comming from a "Tourisim" society/acency in Cypris. Well, where does "Atlatis" show up? Off the coast of Cypris...
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Altantis seems to be very mobile. It's been spotted in Cyprus now. Last time it was Ireland, before that it was in Spain and then Gibraltar
Prior to that it was in the mid atlantic where it moved to from Greece. Of course, it's original location was off the coast of Cornwall.
The Torah are the five books of Moses. The Hebrew Bible (in Hebrew, Tanakh) consistes of the Torah, Neviim, and Ketuvim. Bible simply means a collection of books.
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Hey, here's an idea: The idea of an almost mythical lost civilization is common thread throughout all old human societies - much like, say, really big Floods. Perhaps there could be more then one story that fits? But, no, that wouldn't be a simplistic enough answer to be sound-bitten into oblivion.
-Hemos, from the original post
Hemos tries to make a good point, but reduces himself to ineffectual sarcasm -- evidently because he didn't RTFA.
Yes, many cities were flooded and sunk in ancient times. Yes, these events have become mythologized as a generic Atlantis.
But the article makes very clear: the discovers believe that *this* Atlantis is the Atlantis of Plato, because the dimesions and layout of the sunken city closely correspond to Plato's descriptions.
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You do realize that modern translations are derived from the oldest hebrew and greek texts we have do you not? They also use the dead sea scrolls as a reference now when performing translations.
If you look at any modern translation (ie NIV), you will see what the translators thought was the correct word to fit in context of the passage. Where there is disagreement (usually slight variation/synonym of the same word), a foot note will be present at the bottom of the page listing the possible variations and sometimes and explanation of why they chose a particular version of the verse. There is no great conspiracy to hide things and the translators of the major modern translations are not tied to any specific denomination's view point/doctrine.
I hope you educate yourself rather than continue to live in ignorance. After all, ignorance breeds fear and intolerance.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
Oh for the love of...
Okay; here's the deal. The Bible is translated and preserved extremely well from the original editions. The problem is this- where did the original edition come from?
What? You want me to educate you? My pleasure. *Ahem* When Constantine wanted to have a state religion, he decided Christianity was the optimal choice, since at the time it had little set dogma, and hence little political baggage. A system of control for him to leverage without having to give up much control to a well-established church/religion.
The problem? Everyone had their own stories about Jesus and the rest of the boys (this was 200-300 years after Jesus' death, mind you), and it's arguable how much of the stories were written and how many were passed by oral tradition (read: mostly bulls**t). So, Constantine convenes the Nicene council; mostly of religious leaders (Rabbis, proto-priests, etc.) and tells them to put together the "true" stories into a canonized book.
What this should make you ask is: how much editorializing went into the bible to make it politically acceptable, and how many flat-out lies and half-truths went into to make it palatable for the masses and rulers?
This is one major reason why I'm not a Christian.
I love Exodus 17:14:
Then the LORD said to Moses, 'Write this as a reminder in a book and recite it in the hearing of Joshua: I will utterly blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.
The Hebrew word for "remembrance" is zikaron ; it connotates a participation in an event of the past rather than simply a mental recollection of that event.
When material is written by a culture, understanding of the language of the culture, rather than simply reading translations, leads to greater understanding of the intention of the writer.
In America today you can murder land for private profit. You can leave the corpse for all to see, and nobody calls the c