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The Microsoft/SCO Connection
rocketjam writes "CNET is running a long question-and-answer format article which takes an in-depth look at the relationship between Microsoft and SCO and the financial support SCO has received both directly and indirectly from Microsoft in their ongoing litigation alleging that Linux violates the intellectual property rights they claim to hold on UNIX. The article details the money Microsoft has paid to SCO to "license" UNIX as well as the role they played in BayStar's $50 million investment in SCO in late 2003. Microsoft paid SCO $16.6 million for a UNIX license. The only other company that has come close to paying SCO that much money for a license is Sun, who paid $9.3 million to license UNIX for their Solaris operating system."
Microsoft will never sell again sell UNIX OS (on PCs anyways) becase the agreed not too when they sold their Xenix business in the 80s.
he's referring to paul seizing the throne by threatening the universe with the complete destruction of the spice, melange.
the aphorism speaks to natural resources - paul was ready to destroy the spice and damn the universe to slow death. the guild and emperor realized he was not fucking around and he would do it.
Up front!
Except that he lied about the amounts.
Except that Microsoft lied about their involvement with Baystar.
Except that SCO has yet to produce a single line of infringing code.
Nothing about the fiaSCO has been up front.
Fact and Fiction, eh? Looks like CNet got the facts! M$ facts.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
While many Unicies licensed the code from AT&T, I think post SunOS Solaris launched after Novell had negotiated their agreement with SCO. In the SunOS days it was BSD based, but Solaris is System V.
Novell disputes that SCO is the sole owner of UNIX, not that SCO cannot license UNIX. Novell says that they sold the right to SCO to license UNIX, so even Novell would agree that Sun did the right thing. Sun was legally obligated to license System V from somebody, so paying SCO was appropriate. I believe that Sun's agreement requires them to relicense periodically, thus the recent payments. What has not made news was all the historic payments as well.
IBM does not pay anybody since AIX is not based on System V, but supposedly clean room reverse engineered.
you forgot http://www.google.com/ie
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Ever heared of CrossOver?
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Judging by the size and orientation of that /ie page it is for the IE search bar, check out /microsoft for one which "more" feeling to it.
As for the Firefox page, I would almost bet the Firefox people teamed up with Google and sent them that page as a kit for them to use, in trade for being FireFox's default homepage.
Sure, MS supported SCO because they hate Linux.
But the OTHER thing they are doing is entrenching the "Intellectual Property" mindset. They have a long history (long before they were huge - remember the Altair BASIC hobbyist letter Gates wrote in the 70's?) of pursuing this kind of thing. Why? Because they come up with 1 idea and make horrendous piles of money, whether they do any work or not. Sort of like their OS - it all seems to be the same crap, just a different look and feel. They move a few buttons around, and everyone thinks it's totally new...
Both prongs of the attack benefit them financially and legally, particularly if SCO wins (yeah, I know it's not gonna happen)...
Why is this surprising? SCO and M$ have had a longstanding relationship that began with SCO acquiring the Xenix operating system in 1993.
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People started suggesting that Google would of course support anything that kills IE since MS is now attacking Google's search market.
I don't think Google needs to worry about the new M$ search engine quite yet. You can tell it still has a few kinks in it when they put themselves on top for anal sex.
>Power: domination, beyond what is required for a >healthy business, is what Bill wants. He does not >care for profits. He no longer cares about making >a good business and cool software (I think >perhaps many years ago he did).
Well, Microsoft Basic was a joke. It didn't even have functions, just GOSUB's and two-character variables. Xitan Disk Basic and Q-Basic were both much better products. Both had real functions and Q-Basic had multi-character (more than 2) character variable names.
QDOS consisted largely of code pirated from CP/M; they didn't even bother to root out the concealed copyright notices. Gary Kildall was able to bring an IBM PC into court and type an Easter-egg command to display the Digital Research copyright.
After Bill ripped it off from Seattle Computer Works, who ripped it off from Digital Research, IBM had to finish it up because Microsoft didn't have any O/S programmers.
The IE page is simply there for the search bar.
The google.com/firefox page is actually the default start page for the browser, negotiated by the Mozilla Foundation. They're deliberately taking the bandwidth load off of mozilla.org, and that's a business relationship. Dunno about "embracing" it, but there's definitely some friendship there. Why would Google help pay Mozilla Foundations bandwidth bill otherwise?
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It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
Because Unlike Microsoft, SUN does have something to show for - A whole OS based on UNIX. Microsoft only has Windows Services for UNIX ? and they paid 16 million?
Sun paid 9.3 million for what?
Sun paid for Uniform Driver Interface drivers that SCO had developed. Since SCO and Sun both had System V Unix it would have been trivial for Sun to port them from Unixware to Solaris X86.
Sun badly needed this since they were trying to reinvigorate Solaris X86 after almost killing it. Their customers wanted Solaris X86.
Uniform Driver Interface support means that Sun can easily leverage drivers written for other operating systems. It helps them support more current hardware with much less effort. It makes Solaris X86 suck much less in terms of hardware support.
No conspiracy, just buying IP to cut development time and costs while making their product more competitive. Nothing more to see. Just move along.
Not everything is about trying to trip up Linux. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
can you submit a link to the papers proving Novell owns Unix copyrights ? I had not heard that and cant find anything to back it up.
Caldera changed their name to scox about three years ago. The new "scox" is based in Lindon Utah, not Santa Cruz.