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The Microsoft/SCO Connection

rocketjam writes "CNET is running a long question-and-answer format article which takes an in-depth look at the relationship between Microsoft and SCO and the financial support SCO has received both directly and indirectly from Microsoft in their ongoing litigation alleging that Linux violates the intellectual property rights they claim to hold on UNIX. The article details the money Microsoft has paid to SCO to "license" UNIX as well as the role they played in BayStar's $50 million investment in SCO in late 2003. Microsoft paid SCO $16.6 million for a UNIX license. The only other company that has come close to paying SCO that much money for a license is Sun, who paid $9.3 million to license UNIX for their Solaris operating system."

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  1. A surprise? by fembots · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's nice to know there is a connection, but nothing out of the blue. Corporates are known to use lawsuit to 'retard' competitors, and there are enough memos from MS that suggested they don't really like Linux. How about FUDs and some creative TCO analysis? Those are equally damaging.

    Wasn't it not long ago that we see Google 'embraces' Firefox by having www.google.com/firefox? And what came with this? People started suggesting that Google would of course support anything that kills IE since MS is now attacking Google's search market.

    It's almost as exciting as a lobbyist who 'invested' $xxx million in a presidential campaign so that certain laws can be passed.

  2. words of wisdom by downward+dog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    He who can destroy a thing, can control a thing.

    He who controls the spice... Oh, wait.

    1. Re:words of wisdom by puppetluva · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The enemy of my enemy is my friend

      This is a horrible fallacy. . .just look at US foreign policy failures over the last 50 years to understand in depth why these are NOT words of wisdom.

      He who can destroy a thing, can control a thing.

      This is also not often true... unless you define control as "determining how limited or non-functional something becomes". A few examples:
      1) Computer Software
      2) Love
      3) the environment

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    2. Re:words of wisdom by Samrobb · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

      Bah! As the Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates points out, "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy - nothing more and nothing less."

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  3. not surprised by carrett · · Score: 4, Insightful

    of course this is to be expected. i mean, microsoft, though they may not admit it, knows that linux is a big block in the way of their domination of the software market (how many sane people use microsoft on any kind of serious server?). it's not that M$ is evil either, they're just another capitalist corporation. just because they've been hugely sucessful doesn't make them evil. but they are ruthless and that's probably how they got to the top.

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    1. Re:not surprised by DrCode · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Compare MS to ATT, when the latter had a monopoly on the phone system. ATT may have been just as ruthless, but the phone system always worked. And if anything broke, they would fix it for free.

      Ruthlessness is more easily forgiven than incompetence.

  4. Re:Antitrust by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Insightful
    > That's not the case, it's more like a competitor trying to get the little company to step up to the behemoth. Looking at how this is setup, I'm confused... How is this NOT an anti-trust violation?

    MSFT and SUNW have plausible deniability in that they can claim the payments were for SCOX licenses.

    As deniability goes, it's not very plausible, but as far as the law is concerned, it doesn't have to be. As long as the words on the paper are there, you don't even have to keep a straight face while reading them.

  5. Not Supprised by squoozer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a shame M$ feels they have to attack Linux in this way. They may actually win some support from the tech crowd if they fought the battle based on the quality of their products. I think we are more likely to see the second coming first though :o) (please don't mod me down for mentioning religion)

    I can't help feeling that M$ is a company that can't decide whether they want to cater to the server market or the home market when it comes to Windows.

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  6. Eliminate UNIX, More WinServer Sales by Spencerian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    By redefining the UNIX rights, Microsoft hopes to quell the growth of UNIX family operating systems, of course.

    Why Microsoft doesn't just embrace the UNIX family and not fight it beats the hell out of me.

    Take a Linux distribution (or BSD, or Darwin, or whatever), place a Windows GUI on it, port their apps so that anyone can buy Office (profit!), inherit stronger security from the UNIX model, and add classic Windows support with their Virtual PC/Virtual Server technology they bought from Connectix.

    Perhaps they feel that are in too deep to change.

    "Hear that, Mr. Gates? It is the sound of inevitability..."

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    1. Re:Eliminate UNIX, More WinServer Sales by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No. Windows NT is a very well-designed kernel. If anything, Microsoft should rip the crap they poured all over Cutler's kernel off of it and put a UNIX userland in...that would be more secure.

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  7. Re:Sun paid 9.3 million for what? by Pros_n_Cons · · Score: 4, Insightful

    isn't there already some "splainin" to do seeing as they are open sourcing Solaris which supposedly they had to pay to use? I know I'm missing something but so far this translates to:
    "We don't have to pay SCO, we just want to"
    to me.

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  8. Re:Antitrust by sysadmn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In addition, SUNW doesn't have a monopoly. In US law, there are lots of things that are legal for a competitor to do, but illegal if that competitor has a monopoly (or even a majority share of the market, in some cases).

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  9. They Did consider it by PWT-Development · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At least one vendor (IBM) looked around at what SCO was claiming, said "you have to be kidding" and realized that if they let SCO get away with their little extortion scheme(let's call it what it is -- i am going to sue you so that you buy my company isnt exactly a business plan) then there will be a lineup of equally baseless lawsuits.

    While it is certainly true that IBM has the financial resources to cut a cheque to make SCO go away it will only encourage other bottom-feeders to line up at the trough(sorry for the mixed metaphor) and that would make for a constant distraction.

    Even a company the size of IBM can be impaired by a barrage of deposition requests, email hunts, paperwork diving expeditions, etc.

    Don't think that IBM defended the lawsuit because of some political stance in favour of Open Source. They defended the lawsuit for pure practical purposes. They saw that the long term costs of the lawsuit went far beyond the $100,000,000 (for sake of argument) that it would have taken to make SCO go away