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Disney to Make Toy Story 3 Without Pixar
rdurell writes "CNN is reporting that Disney has begun the process of setting up a new CGI studio with the goal of making Toy Story 3. Pixar has balked at the idea of another sequel thus far though Disney does own the rights to the franchise. Does this truly spell the end of the Disney-Pixar relationship? Can both Disney and Pixar live without the other?" We covered the Disney/Pixar breakup in January.
No,
Pixar wrote the story and did the picture. The only the Disney did was greenlight the film and give a little support for it -- along with all promotion and distribution.
They had no interaction in the creative end of things...
Yes, as it under their current contract. Disney owns the rights to all of the Pixar movies under their deal. Now you kinda see why Pixar wanted to split.
No, Disney has done NOTHING for any of the Pixar movies except distribute them. They have all been Pixar movies through and through.
Read up on them.
"Leo Fender was in a 'state of grace' when he designed the Stratocaster." -- Paul Reed Smith
which is actually a surprisingly good metaphor for the Disney/Pixar relationship. Hey, AC you're pretty smart!
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle...
"More adult" doesn't necessarily mean "more photorealistic". Pixar seems smart enough to, among other things, stay out of the "uncanny valley".
Actually, no. Disney was responsible for funding Pixar's efforts on Toy Story when it was a bold new idea to do 100% computer animation, and for that they deserver credit. But beyond funding and doing a lot of the Producer legwork business, they weren't writing the story. They were casting the talent. They were publicising. But the story was written by Pixar. (They do know how to make good stories - see some of their shorts from the old animation festivals for proof of this.)
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
The Lion King is a story pathetically stolen from Osamu Tezuka (god of japanese comics), it's not original.
;)
OTOH Lilo & Stitch was good, too good to be written by Disney
Disney already did a Toy Story series, see here for details. It was basically the Buzz Lightyear show as it would have existed in the Toy Story universe I believe.
Apparently my humor is too dry for some readers. I was going for the "Yes, I agree, and it's flamingly obvious."
I don't think anyone considered it a "prediction" in the "Someone might disagree with this" sense. I think everyone saw the initial post as a "Deliberately stating the obvious for humor value" post, and I was trying to carry that joke forward.
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Actually, Toy Story 2 was supposed to be the typical low-budget straight-to-video Disney sequel, but thanks to the way technology was moving, Pixar was able to do even better work with less money, and the early dailies looked so good that they convinced Disney to do it as a full theatrical release.
I don't doubt that an el-cheapo Toy Story DVD for the kid's market is what this new project really is. They know how to turn that particular production plan into money, and have been doing so for years.
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
They already have, back in 2000:
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Adventure Begins (on DVD and VHS, bypassed the theatrical release)
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command TV show
Sig cancelled due to lack of interest
I hope you are trying to be funny, but for the benefit of those who may not get it, Disney was formed by brothers Walter E. and Roy O. Disney. One of whom would be the "father" (Roy) and the other the "uncle" (Walt) of Roy E. Disney.
No, Disney has done NOTHING for any of the Pixar movies except distribute them.
In the book "Second Coming Of Steve Jobs", there's an extensive account of the development hell for "Toy Story" (the original one). According to this book, Jeffrey Katzenberg (then - Disney, now - Dreamworks) actually participated in the storyline development. Initially, the cowboy Woody was more arrogant and more selfish in his attitude. Katzenberg said that the audience will hate Woody and won't feel any empathy towards his adventures; Lasseter said he won't change a single line; Katzenberg pulled the plug. The development halted. Then Lasseter changed the storyline according to Katzenberg's suggestions - and the rest was history.
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L&S was the last Disney project to be produced by the Florida skunkworks (out from under the thumb of Eisner). Despite efforts to push his in-house projects, "The Emperor's New Groove" and "Treasure Planet", L&S proved what the animators were capable of without Eisner's excessive micromanagement. The response: elimination of the Florida studio, under the guise of cutting costs.
That'll teach 'em to be original.
Disney, on the other hand ... what's the last movie they did by themselves? Operation Dumbo Drop? Pocahantas II?
Actually the last (theatrically released, animated) movie they did on their own was Home on the Range. On the basis of that I predict bad things for Toy Story 3.
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I think this old slashdot article is the one you mean:
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http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/10
It references this Slate article:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102086
You heard very wrong.
I worked for Pixar a few years ago and I can say that the pay was nothing to laugh at. Infact they pay quite well and provide a very comfotable place to work. Hell the place breeds creativity.
Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
Actually... Toy Story 3 probably won't be their first CG movie. They're also working on Chicken Little
They had a top-notch 3D shop. The Secret Lab. You know, the people that did Dinosaur, the digital dogs in 102 Dalmatians, and lots of other VFX and animation for Disney's features. They shut the division down a couple of years ago. Now they're starting over again.
Then Eisner came into power, the Disney family left, and the board of directors stopped thinking about pushing creative talent to be creative, but pushing them to make movies just expensive enough and just good enough to ride the name recognition wave and turn a good profit.
And NOW they're ruining The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as we speak.
"Everything you know is wrong. (And stupid.)"
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"1) Disney has been (and still is) a good partner for us. They bring a HEAP of talent to the table. Not to mention unparalleled experience in marketing animated features. (If Pixar hadn't teamed up with disney, no one would have even seen Toy Story.)
2) The main reason for the disagreement is Pixar's desire to own the rights to it's characters. Disney currently owns the rights and is loathe to give 'em up. Thus, the standoff."
I know that part of the bad blood is about Toy Story 2. Disney would not allow them to include this in their original 6 picture deal, since it was a sequel. Eisner is leaving Disney at the end of 2006. I have heard/read before that both companies are waiting for this to see if a deal can be struck, it seems Jobs and Eisner don't get along too well.
Nope. Eisner has already announced his intent to leave Disney in 2006.
Endut! Hoch Hech!
The problem is that The Lion King is, at most, 15% original, see here for screenshot & poster comparisons...