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Google Keyhole, Google Scholar

baegucb_18706 writes "The front page of Google has a link to Keyhole where you can download a free trial of satellite imagery. Is it worth the cost for a subscription, and is it the start of the real commercialism for Google? And a challenge to MS's imagery?" D H NG writes "According to CNET, Google introduced a new service for academics called Google Scholar on Wednesday. This service searches scholarly literature such as technical reports, theses and abstracts. This service will not carry ads." And finally, reader ian@FalsePositives.com links to some speculation about how a sufficiently competent search engine could write the news itself.

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  1. lexis-nexis replacement by mmkkbb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is that what Google scholar is going for? I guess it would end up as a pay service before long.

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  2. NASA? by Clemensa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is this not very similar to what NASA are doing? NASA's is free, but I think Google's has a much better resolution and can zoom in more detail. However, I remember a while back NASA saying they would probably support Open Source in the near future with their project?

  3. Not Such Link by dorward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google isn't linking to Keyhole here. Maybe is it to random users, or selected geographical areas.

    1. Re:Not Such Link by dorward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ah ha! It does appear in the Google Tools, but not on the front page.

  4. Authors by endlessoul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the website:
    I'm an author. Why would I want my articles in Google Scholar?

    Your work likely has great value to a number of people who may not know it exists. By including your articles in Google Scholar, others will be more likely to find them, learn from them, cite them and build on the foundation you have laid.


    Sounds like a good way to make yourself known in the writing world. For now, it sounds like a kickass idea. Go Google.

  5. Not a big deal by Staplerh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So Google included Keyhole in its list of tools, which now takes another click (on more >> from the google homepage) to get to it. Heaven forbid that Google would do anything remotely business-like.

    Quite frankly, Google is a corporation, and if they can help Keyhole get a few more customers (who need the service for whatever reason) while making a few dollars on the side, I think we should accept it as completely legitimate.

    And no, I don't think this is the start of a slippery slope of Google into outrageous commercialism.

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  6. Scholar search! by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Excellent! As a postgrad CS student, I've been more or less relying on Citeseer and Google to search for literature online. Citeseer is really useful, but I find its search rather cumbersome. If Google can create a specialty search for academic papers...I'm more than thrilled! Go Google!

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    1. Re:Scholar search! by 5E-0W2 · · Score: 5, Informative
  7. Worldwind by SammysIsland · · Score: 5, Informative

    ummm.... worldwind from NASA is free and seems to be the same thing...

  8. Re:Satelite imagery by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think people want it right there, right then. I believe most people will get what they need from the 7 day trial.

    It will be an amazing asset for schools and colleges etc. The 3d exploration module looks really good, and combined with being able to switch to a martian map, it increases it uses further.

    I see some of the imagary is scanned at a 3inch resolution (Las vegas for example), but the majority of the planet is at the lesser 70cm-1m range.
    3 inches! Just think about how detailed that is, they can see your Tin Foil Beany. They KNOW your wearing it.

    I live in England and would love this software, but they don't seem to have the resolution here yet (London is down as a 70cm map, I'm nowhere near there so its useless...

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  9. EPIC by jamie · · Score: 5, Insightful
    That last link, http://poynterextra.org/epic/, is really interesting. But the key technological turning point, where Google comes up with a magic algorithm to combine and rewrite multiple news stories to generate a customized, nuanced, original news story for each reader, is not grounded in reality.

    Rewriting English is similar to summarizing it. Using clever tricks, computers are about as good at writing a précis of a block of text as a dull 3rd grader -- every such summary lacks nuance, because the computer that generated it lacks understanding. All there is, is tricks. So the idea that an algorithm can be taught not only to understand the meaning of news stories that were written by humans, but then to rewrite them adaptively, is pure science fiction.

    My favorite example of this is Cyc, a project to feed into a database all the propositions which some believe constitute "common sense." For example, Cyc knows that dogs and cats are mammals, and that they are common pets, so one could tell it "I have a mammal as a pet," and it could deduce that I have a dog or a cat or maybe something else. In the early 1990s, when the project was getting started, its researchers believed that in about five years, it would be intelligent enough to read plain English text on its own and understand it well enough to assimilate into its database. At that point, of course, it would start absorbing all the knowledge in the world until it became the smartest encyclopedia there was.

    And then in the last 1990s, its researchers were again interviewed, and again they said that it would soon be intelligent enough to read plain English text on its own and understand it. When? In about five years. For any time T, strong AI is always about five years away.

    So I'm amused that the strong AI postulated in that excellent Flash animation, the key which allows "big media" to die off because computers will do custom rewrites of amateur news dispatches and form newsfeeds of their own, comes to pass in... about five years. I don't think the New York Times has much to worry about.

  10. Worries about Scholar by 3rd_Floo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The only thing I worry about with scholar, after giving it a whirl, is that some newer papers that have recently been published dont appear, since it seems it builds its index off of citations first. I worry that if Scholar does take hold, newer more obscure papers that may not get the publicity of more mainstream journals and venues of publication will never be seen again (This is all reliant on their indexing model not getting better). Perhaps i'll have to start submiting abstracts of my work to Google as well now...