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Soviet Space Battle Station Images Published

An anonymous reader writes "Images of the Soviet Union's laser space battle station Skif and its prototype Polyus have been published on the web. Polyus-Skif was the Soviet response to the American 'Star Wars' program of the 1980s. The Polyus was launched in May 1987 but a faulty sensor caused it to de-orbit into the South Pacific. More information can be found at Encyclopedia Astronautica."

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  1. Re:Old Soviet Overlords by AeternitasXIII · · Score: 5, Informative

    Soviet propaganda did a really good job of pumping up their apparent strength, but their economy was in dire straits since the mid-1970s. By the time Carter and Reagan had maneuvered the US into backing Iraq vs. the nominally Soviet supported Iran, the Soviets were already well on their way to bankruptcy. The Star Wars program and the resultant Soviet reaction to it probably only hastened the demise of the country by a year at most, according to many economists.

  2. History Channel Last Night by DnemoniX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Funny that the History Channel ran a show last night on disasters in the Soviet space program. What was very interesting was some seriously devistating disasters that the world at large never knew about until years after the wall came down. One was really impressive, the rocket exploded on the pad killing over 150 people and burning for hours. In another the rocket began to launch, but flipped sideways and dropped. The damage to the launch facility was so bad it took two years to get in back into usable shape. All the while Khrushchev was mocking the US efforts as backwards and offering assistance to a "backwards" nation. Meanwhile covering up their mega-disasters. So it makes you wonder what "really" happened to this thing.

  3. Re:"One thing i can tell you - Energia Corp now by dr_d_19 · · Score: 5, Informative

    And perhaps a good ground for the interview would be Energia Corps' own Martian Mission web

  4. Re:Yep, number increment by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's because what it looks like you're seeing in those pictures is the orbiter on its launch vehicle. The orbiter alone (the black thing, if I'm reading things correctly) is probably what those measurements you have are referring to, so that expains the disparity between the pictures and the numbers.

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  5. Re:Old Soviet Overlords by Meredeth · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes. A previous poster mentioned a large rocket prototype exploding on the launchpad and killing 150 people. That rocket was supposed to do the same job as the saturn rocket, but failed due to vibration problems ( I think it had 11 engines ). Energia is the rocket that they wanted to build in the 1960's. Its a fantastic design. It can loft Buran into space, or just a giant container, so it can lift quite a bit more than the shuttle could. If the russians can ever fund a major mars mission, Energia can launch just about anything they can think of.

  6. Re:Stratoshperic Archeology by magarity · · Score: 5, Informative

    the latest peice of crap we found floating around in low orbit (that noone had a record of being up there

    I'd say that was fairly unlikely. See, there are these satellites called 'launch detectors' the US military has that picks up rocket heat signature blooms within seconds anywhere in the world. So they know at least something is taking off and where it is going. And then there are these other things called 'telescopes' that let people on the ground look at things in space. Combine the two and while there might be some military satellite whose exact use is secret, there really isn't anything in orbit that isn't well known.

  7. Re:violated USSR - USA treaty? by virg_mattes · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not this time. The treaty forbade launching armed craft, but although this thing was slated as a weapons platform, the first unit was sent up without armaments, and no others went up because the project was scrapped with the fall of the Soviet Union.

    Virg

  8. Re:Stratoshperic Archeology by Oddly_Drac · · Score: 4, Informative

    "There's lots of junk up there."

    And the majority is being tracked by NORAD down to the size of around a basketball; which is the major reason why they actually justify the Cheyenne mountain budget. No. No points for Stargate jokes. Note that this addresses your point about tracking being limited; the military stares outwards.

    Civilian tracking is generally a matter of watchin g for new stuff. "we still don't know where the radioactive material on the spacecraft landed."

    It's the largely technical problem of finding an object the size of a basketball in an oval area 150 miles wide in the minor axis by 7000 miles in the long axis, the majority of that being water. 270 grams isn't much, and it's probably fairly safe for the moment.

    "Maybe not so much with something this big, but you could always claim that it's an expended booster or maybe a failed research satellite if you didn't want anyone paying attention to it."

    This was what they said about some Bigbird satellites, except someone did point out that failed satellites don't change orbit. I think that the veil of secrecy surrounding KH lasted for all of five years.

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  9. Re:Wow by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Informative

    Russian launch practices are fascinating. They basically cart the rocket out on a huge truck, turn it upright, and fire it off. They routinely launch in horrible weather. By comparison, the US space program uses an incredibly slow and expensive system to take the things to the launch pad while they're upright. They launched one time when it was a tad cold and the entire thing blew up. On the other hand, Apollo 12 was struck by lightning twice during the launch, and went on to land on the Moon.

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