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Dutch Survey Shows IE Web Share Below 90%
happycorp writes "We've seen a few too many Firefox articles by now, but
it is gaining a real presence in the market:
Onestat
reports that IE's share is down to 88.9% marketshare,
with the combined Mozilla browsers above 7%.
While we saw this trend much earlier in particular communities
such as
w3schools
this is the first time IE has dropped below 90% in a general survey.
Also interesting, the w3schools page shows a steady parallel
increase in both Linux and Mac OS global marketshare
over the last 18 months."
Heise Newsticker is a major IT news site in germany. The linked article is in German, but you'll be able to read the stats.
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This is not so surprising and the trend is most likely going to accelerate thanks to the security worries. For example Cert-fi has send today out the warning that people should cease to use IE until the Iframe-bug is corrected.
Another very visible trend has been lately the success of Apple. Especially he laptops are currently very competitive and at least in my research unit nobody buys anything else if there's just enough budjet.
As a web designer, I have to tell you that it's not easy to support all browsers equally. Granted getting the site to work in Mozilla is a given, but some of the mundane errors that crop up when trying to get them to work properly is extremely annoying, and half the time the errors make no sense at all.
I disagree. I've been designing websites for too many years, and the only time that it was truly difficult to design a website for multiple browsers was at the tail end of the browser wars when IE 4 and Netscape 4 were simultaneously introduced. Netscapes layer tags and IE's proprietary DHTML extensions were an absolute nightmare.
IE still has some proprietary extensions of various different things left in it, but standards, by and large, are the same. Sure, my sites looks a little bit different in each browser, but none of the advanced functions fail to work. And really, it seems like other browsers are the ones doing things correctly, and it's IE that's breaking the code.
Doubt it. On the site I work on (major UK telco) most Mac users are using IE or Safari. Only 3.5% of all users are on non-Windows platforms, the vast majority being on MacOS, with Un*ces not even making 0.2%.
We get our figures monthly so our most recent numbers are for October when we had 3.05% for all Gecko browsers, of whicb 3.5% were on Un*ces, 5% Macs, the rest 'doze. IE still scored at just over 95% of all users.
I am looking forward to seeing November's figures to see if the Firefox 1.0 release has had an impact.
A Mozilia Europe dev slipped spy/adware into the official German build of Firefox!
Great, where's that cluebat.
Well, I'm one of those 800-pound-microsoft-certified-gorillas you were talking about, and I know 4 others in my area. We all are running MS shops. We all have Firefox or Opera on every desktop and have removed the default IE icons. I have about 95% of my users using Firefox, and about 40% of them report they've switched to it at home as well. The other MS certified people I know are reporting slightly lower usage levels, but majority of their users are not using IE.
If I drive fast enough at the red light, it'll appear green.
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"windows keeps on launching ie in a number of nefarious ways such as links embedded in outlook and sent via msn messenger. unless someone can suggest a quick fix"
Firefox -> Tools -> Options -> Set Default Browser
seems to work fine. You can google the newsgroups for additional info.
Plus all the people who change their UserAgent setting so that it works with the stupid browser sniffer that their bank/pr0n site uses and will only let them in if they are using Exploder.
In this situation complain to the management, not the the techies. Point out that they are losing over 10% of their prospective customers.
Because IE only sites tend to have lower accessiblity than properly designed sites it may also be worth mentioning that they do not comply with the Disability Discrimination Act (in the UK) or Section 508 (in the US).
Finally, point them to the CERT and SANS Institute reports and let them know that you are following their guidance and using a more secure browser. This is of advantage to both the supplier and you as a customer.
Don't rant on about M$ monopolies, or W3C compliance.
I have done this with a number of sites and it does have an effect.
Once they have a browser neutral site then you don't need your browser to advertise itself as something it isn't. As a result, alternative browser share will increase, if only by a small amount.
Yeah dude, I got no problem here either.
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Thou hast besquirted me, O leotarded one.
Maybe now msnbc.com will not require IE to view video. If you click on a video link on msnbc (and probably msn but i never go there) the very first requirement is to download and install IE.
I make it point to periodically send their customer support an email requesting that they adhere to standards and not require a specific web browser to view video. I encourage others to do the same.
One time I told them I tried to follow their recommendations by the "IE thing" just would not run on my lunix machine.
What bank do you use, that can approve, implement and roll out fixes like that over the weekend?
Presumably someone had a reason for locking out Mozilla and all Mozilla users - that sort of thing shouldn't be reversed over the weekend, unless it was just done on a whim by that same admin in the first place.
Banks tend to move verrry slowwwly on this sort of thing, with good reason.
The simple solution is to encourage sites to generate valid HTML.
Only if a page is valid does it make sense to compare how different web browsers render it.
It's not helpful to make a C compiler accept something that is not valid C source code. Why shouldn't the same reasoning apply to HTML?