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Torvalds Dubbed Most Influential Executive of 2004

quamaretto writes "CRN has named Linus Torvalds the most influential executive of 2004, in the magazine's feature list of the top 25 executives of the year. For perspective, he is followed by Sam Palmisano of IBM and Steve Balmer of Microsoft. The coverage of Torvalds is 5 pages, including pictures, a written article, and a lot of interview material. Topics are business centric, including SCO, OSDL, and Torvald's personality in development and management."

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  1. in what way is he by Surt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    an executive? What company is he in charge of these days?

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    1. Re:in what way is he by kelnos · · Score: 4, Insightful
      On his own, Linux would not have become the corporate success that it is on its way to becomming, that is thanks to IBM, Suse, Red Hat et al.
      How does that in any way make Torvalds less of an influential executive? IMO, the fact that these companies are willing to invest their livelihood in what started out as Torvalds' pet project speaks volumes about how influential he is.

      It's high time that influence in the tech world is gained not by rhetoric and marketing, but by being a reasonable, credible, respectable person with a boatload of techincal talent.

      Put another way, "influence" doesn't just comprise the things a person actually does, but includes all the indirect effects of a person's actions. He *started* the Linux kernel. Could someone else have done it? Probably. But he's the one that actually went and did it, and he's maintained a vision for it and nominal control over it during the past 13-odd years.

      Did he create the Free Software movement? No. But if he hadn't created Linux, I see OSS more of a fringe thing, composed mainly of fanatical followers of RMS. What good are Free programs if you don't have a Free OS to run them on? (Note that RMS himself has very little influence outside the OSS world, and I'd argue that his influence *inside* the OSS world isn't all that much either.)
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    2. Re:in what way is he by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What influence? He didn't create an Open Source movement. He founded no companies and the official kernel is used only as a guideline for distros.
      Founded no companies? Big deal. Most companies have never created something as influential as Linux.
  2. Good to hear, but not surprising. by laughingcoyote · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given Linux's penetration of business-level computing, and its influential role on software development as a whole, this is not really as surprising to hear as some might think. Still, it is excellent to see someone recognize this.

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  3. No Jobs? by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems rather odd that Steve Jobs isn't on that list, considering how much the stock price of Apple has gone up this year. The iPod is big news, and the company seems to be coming back into relevance in the Scientific, educational and home desktop markets. Instead, Michael Dell is on there, and all he's done is put a lot of machines together and put out a copy-cat MP3 player. (He's done a good job at it and made a lot of money, don't get me wrong. He's no innovator, though.)

    1. Re:No Jobs? by Software · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jobs isn't on the list because CRN is targeted towards business computing ("Vital Information for VARs and Technology Integrators"), not home computing. Dell does both, while the iPod and most other recent Apple inventions are targeted towards the home.

    2. Re:No Jobs? by paxcirca · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Xserve, Xserve RAID, OS X Server, Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, et cetera, are aimed towards home use? As much as I want an Xserve cluster in my closet, these products aren't aimed towards the consumer market.

    3. Re:No Jobs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ok, so just name all the pro stuff that is aimed at the high end non-home users. Try the iMac, which is for home use. And not just his Apple stuff, what about Pixar. Pixar has never had a bad movie. Jobs companies have raised the bar for other companies that compete in the same fields.

  4. Influencial? by myrdred · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He may be a great person, a great kernel programmer, a great executive, but influencial??? He influences what gets into the Linux Kernel and what doesn't. He doesn't set trends. He doesn't guide where the industry is going.

    Applications do that, not the kernel. Firefox has an influence. Sure Firefox is Open Source, but Linux has nothing to do with that. Features in desktop environments such as KDE and Gnome can be influencial, an Operating System as a whole can be influencial - but Linux - who deals only with the Kernel. I just don't see it.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but how is Linus Torvalds influencing the industry? What executive decisions has he made that made that changed everything?

    1. Re:Influencial? by kaiser423 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe he's influential in that he provides a steady hand, and transparency for (nearly) all processes. You don't have to be some dynamite guy doing crazy things. Keeping a big ship steady is a big job, and commands respect. When he talks, people listen. He's not going to bullshit anyone. I guess he's influential, because he doesn't overly use his influence, gaining him more respect, and more influence. Mutually reinforcing cycles.

    2. Re:Influencial? by quamaretto · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Maybe I'm missing something, but how is Linus Torvalds influencing the industry? What executive decisions has he made that made that changed everything?

      Linux is the kernel driving the most common Unix implementations right now. The Linux kernel project in high use on inexpensive hardware is what has largely fueled the Unix culture for the last 5-8 years, and has caused Microsoft (Via it's campaign of FUD) and Apple (By adoption of Unix as an underlying OS, disputable but possible), as well as Unix vendors, to sweat and improve to compete with a technology that is highly useful and completely free. And surely there are other important people behind this movement; but the most prominent one is Linus.

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    3. Re:Influencial? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 3, Insightful



      Maybe I'm missing something, but how is Linus Torvalds influencing the industry? What executive decisions has he made that made that changed everything?


      Well, for one, he's benevolent. Granted, he doesn't have money dealings, but he is incredibly good at dealing with the feelings and emotions of the people involved. He doesn't anger people (overtly), and he manages to walk away with more friends than enemies.

      If more corporate executives were to do this, the whole of business ecology would be much better, we'd have more employment, less offshoring, better wages, and less hours we'd need to work.

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  5. Is he, really? by northcat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is he really the most influential executive? It is not a list of the 'best' executives or the most popular executives. It is a list of the most influential executives.

  6. Awesome quote by ghideon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On most days, he toils before a glowing terminal, playing his keyboard like a baby grand, not much different from his early days conceiving the kernel in Helsinki back in 1991. But now Torvalds orchestrates thousands of Linux developers distributed around the globe, synthesizing and arranging the bits into the masterpiece that disrupted the software establishment, crippling Sun, reviving IBM and giving Microsoft a taste of mortality.


    Certianly a great number of supporting applications helped, but I wonder where the OSS movement would be today with the Linux kernel.

    1. Re:Awesome quote by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Probably nowhere if RMS hadn't tilted at windmills.
      (To be honest, that leap of courage still scares me
      even today, although I like him believe in the right of a programmer to have source (responsibly)). Don't ask how much UCSD p-system
      source I once had lying around (probably more than
      Softech or Pecan... (grins)).

      We all thought RMS was stark staring mad. But what a beautiful madness. I hope I get struck by the same disease one day when I'm mildly less uncomfortable...

      Sadly, back to the .NET grind.

      But, seriously Linus the Executive. Now penguins might look like they wear suits, but I imagine Linus hates the idea of justifying something to a banker... (cue oblig John Cleese).

      In any case the BSD movement was there and would have happened (see DDJ onwards). But possibly not
      quite the same way.

      I hope Linus writes a thoroughly beautiful "no I don't want an OBE" speech and posts it to them.

      Given Linus's literary skills that will be a fun read...

    2. Re:Awesome quote by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wonder where the OSS movement would be today with the Linux kernel.

      You mean without the Linux kernel?

      Um, wouldn't we be using BSD?

    3. Re:Awesome quote by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You mean without the Linux kernel? Um, wouldn't we be using BSD?

      We'd probably all be hurding and it would be the most advanced kernel on the planet.

      In free software it does not matter, does it? What gets implemented one place is free to move around.

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  7. Oh, I get it.... maybe you will too... by 3seas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    its about making linux (a kernal) enterprise ready and as a side effect causing real competition to happen again in the market place.

    Or in other words, causing the others on the list to alter their ways..... hence most influencial...

    and the other side of that coin..

    Do the others on the list influence Linus and what he does?

    probably not or very little...

  8. Re:heh by TheKidWho · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah and no Steve Jobs? That guy has the music industry in the palm of his hand.

  9. Ballmer by mnmn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The author goes to pains to find the good in Ballmer. Keywords are man of 'action' and 'energy', and these two words are repeated, with the failure of discovery of another virtue.

    Key point is Ballmer's interest in 'innovation'. Goes in line with Microsoft's PR, sounds like there was no research on this man, just interview someone at Microsoft about its CEO.. they'll just repeat the company bottom line.

    When I hear 'energy', for some reason reminds me of 'developers, developers, developers'. Makes me proud of Linus' laziness.

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  10. What influence? you ask? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What influence did Jesus of Nazarath have? He didn't create the Catholic Church. He founded no church. On his own, Christ would not have become the religious success that he is except for the Catholics, the Protestants, etc. If someone doesn't like what he said, they create their own brand of righteousness. So what influence does Jesus have. He's said that sin is wrong, but that hasn't stopped anyone, so where is this influence?

    Don't get me wrong, I have respect for what he's done and that he's been able to do it, its far more then I can ever see myself being able to do and he deserves every praise for that, but most influential? That's really streching it.

  11. Most people think.... by oliverthered · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What people think is very rarely the truth.

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  12. Re:Sure, OK. Whatever... by opos · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Seems to me that the issue here is not what most people think, but rather what actually is. The quoted dictionary definition is a rather precise definition and the Linux Kernel group of developers surely qualifies as an organization. What is missing from your "most" perspective is that neither Linus nor Linux are "most" in any manner of speaking. Rather, Linus and Linux reflect the leading edge of a paradigm shift in software development - where company boundaries are blurred.

    Within this frame of reference, a company is the residual of the past software development paradigm and the organization is a step in a new software development paradigm.

    That Torvalds duties differ by miles from that of Ballmer and Gates is a sign of genius - Linus can manage an open source development organization without the traditional management hierarchy that is managed by Ballmer/Gates and all the rest of 'em.

  13. Re:The Right Kind of Hero by idlemachine · · Score: 2, Insightful
    To claim someone as the most influential for there effect on competitors is crap.

    So, to paraphrase what you've wrote: the influence Linux has on dictating Microsoft's corporate strategy isn't influential enough for you?

    If you affect something's behaviour, you're having an influence on it.

  14. Re:The Right Kind of Hero by jonabbey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In fact I would think IBM is more of a concern than linux persee.

    Oh, not true, I promise you. Remember when IBM was going it alone with OS/2? It was a joke, despite the product having some very significant technical strengths. Linux is important because millions of people, tens of thousands of businesses, and scores of governments think it's important.

    Add in the fact that Linux undercuts Microsoft on price, the fact that it (along with the freely implementable IETF and W3C internet and web standards) frees people from Microsoft's network effects monopoly prison, and the fact that people get to choose how their own computers work without paying Microsoft for the lesser privilege of serfdom, and you've got a social movement to seriously rival Microsoft's commercial dominance.

    Don't ever kid yourself that IBM is making Linux. Linux is the leverage that IBM needs to remain relevant against the terrible power of a network effects driven monopolist like Microsoft. And it's not just IBM.. all of the PC manufacturers here and abroad benefit from Linux interrupting Microsoft's pattern of claiming all profits in the PC world to itself.

    In materials that leaked out of Microsoft during the federal cases against it, Microsoft strategists explained that their greatest worry was that a Compaq or an HP might simply decide to spend an amount equivalent to the hundreds of millions of dollars that Microsoft charged them per year and put it towards the development of a free alternative commodity OS in free conjunction with the other industry players, freezing out Microsoft and taking back the industry's profits.

    IBM alone couldn't do this. Compaq or Dell alone certainly couldn't do this. What was required to make that happen was a commodity operating system that would not threaten any hardware vendor in the way that OS/2 did IBM's competitors, and which everyone could trust to be equally accessible to them all.

    Linus did that, because of his programming skill, because of his use of Richard Stallman's GPL, and because of his management and social skills.

    Linus and his followers have overturned a many hundred billion dollar industry, and he deserves as much recognition as can be given to him for that.

  15. Sabina by obdulio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Paraphrasing (?) an spanish poet called Joaquin Sabina:

    Bill Gates is so poor that the only thing he has is money....

    Linus may not be a rich man, but what he has (the respect, love and admiration of the computer world) is of much more importance than the billions that Gates has and the trillions he may have in the future....

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    1. Re:Sabina by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Bill Gates donates tens of billions of dollars to malaria and AIDS research, FYI. Whatever he does in the computer industry, he deserves respect for that.

  16. Influence by example by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He has, by the example of his competent leadership, demonstrated that important business software can be developed under a free software license.

    This has influenced the industry so that 1) it is much more likely to rely on free software (Linux and other), and 2) it is much more likely comtribute to, and to release software of its own under a free software license.

  17. Re:Apple Computers are for business by cowbutt · · Score: 2, Insightful
    For home, most people choose [... 2) something capable of web and email [...] For 2, everything works, but a PC is cheapest.

    Depends whether you're costing the time necessary to fix silly hardware incompatibilities (that don't occur if you buy 100% Apple gear) or spyware/virus issues. This, of course, will be proportional to the skill of the user or their friends or children. ;-)

    Right now, for any non-technical user who just wants a computing appliance, doesn't have technical skills or help available, and is in the market for a new machine, I'd recommend a Mac.

    And I'm a PC-using Linux type, and have been since 1995. Works for me, but maybe not for everyone.

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