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Microsoft Replaces Your Pirated Windows, For Free

th3d0ct0r writes "ZDNet reports that Microsoft is now willing to replace your pirated version of Windows XP. As part of the recently started "Windows Genuine advantage" program, Alex Hilton explains that this incentive aims to bring out customers who bought PC's with Windows XP preinstalled from vendors that pirated the Microsoft OS. Not only do they offer amnesty to anyone coming forth with a pirated version, but also to ship an original version of their product with a valid license to replace the pirated one, each customer being able to get up to 5 such replacements. Hilton says: "Our goal is not to prosecute the individual, our goal is to get to the source".

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  1. Important to note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is only a pilot program for the UK, and it requires a proof of purchase (so they have someone to go after).

    1. Re:Important to note by chuckfucter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, I'm glad you said that because I didn't read the artcle.

    2. Re:Important to note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd hate to see karma whoring evolve to people restating a few lines from the article.

      But see, we don't read the article. So summaries from readers who KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW make for awesome comments....

    3. Re:Important to note by hunterx11 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Crap. I thought I might be able to scam them into giving me a free upgrade to XP Pro even though I already have a paid-for W2K Pro license.

      Your comment contains a grammatical error. You mistakenly use the word "upgrade" instead of "downgrade."

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    4. Re:Important to note by Curate · · Score: 5, Informative
      Win2k Pro is stable, and with SP4, relatively secure.
      As is XP.

      Win2k Pro DOES NOT have integrated DRM, and no "activation".
      How are these even an issue, unless you are a pirate?

      Win2k Pro uses less system resources
      If XP uses more resources, then it's only marginally so. And that's pretty normal; not many OSes use fewer resources as new versions are released.

      , does everything XP does better than XP does.
      It's the exact opposite. XP's feature set is a superset of W2K Pro's. One difference you mentioned already is hyperthreading. That *is* a big deal if you have a hyperthreading CPU; you want to make full use of your hardware, don't you?

      Another difference is support for dual monitors. Other posters will note that they have gotten dual monitors to work with W2K. Well, you can do it with certain video cards (mostly dual-head cards), but it is up to the video card driver writer to add support for it. However, in Windows XP, you can simply use any arbitrary combination of video cards; the work of creating the virtual desktop is done in the OS itself.

      Fast user switching. A built-in firewall. Sound card emulation in NTVDM (try playing Doom on W2K, then try it on XP); better compatibility with DOS apps in general. A skinnable/themeable GUI (don't like the default? go back to the W2K look and feel). ClearType. Improved power management. Device driver rollback. Network bridging. Faster boot time.

      And then there are lots of little improvements here and there, such as new command line options for various commands.

      Really, it's pretty sad if you think W2K is better than XP in any way, shape, or form. Maybe you were just trolling. Otherwise feel free to continue to use W2K in blissful ignorance.

  2. Danger of Joe Jobs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What if someone buys a computer from some small company, and then installs a pirated copy on it (say they screw up and lose whatever discs they have) and claims the small company put it on there to get another licensed copy. Or what if they buy a computer without an OS (or with Linux) and claims the pirated copy they got was from the small company?

  3. Re:Yet another saavy PR move by M$ -- nothing more by luvirini · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nope, this is not a PR move.. this is an attempt to find people who SELL pirated software

  4. Makes as much sense... by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...as a gun buyback program in Iraq...

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  5. Re:How do you know? by Radi-0-head · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC.mspx

    That's how you know.

  6. Well, not totally "free"... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You still have to shop the guys who you bought your unlicensed copy of the OS from. And that includes signing a sworn statement to the fact.

    So, in essence, Microsoft gives you a legitimate copy of the software (or at least a license for the software that you already have installed) and you give Microsoft a mid-sized piracy outfit on a silver platter.

    Total cost to Microsoft for eliminating a pirate that might be costing them tens, if not hundreds, of thousands: next to nothing. The pirate outfit will probably end up forking over the lost income one way or another (in court or out of court, whichever Microsoft decides) and even it it doesn't (because it declares bankrupcy or something similar) it'll never be selling another pirated copy of Windows XP again, which means more legitimate Windows XP sales for Microsoft in the long run.

    You have to admit, it's one helluva smart play by Microsoft. It gets to make more money and it gets to look like the good guy too.

    Oh, and why not totally free? Well, apart from the legal stuff that you have to sign, there's a good chance that any outfit that's pirating Windows XP on a large scale barely has its head above water. The cost of getting caught by Microsoft, or even the cost of going legitimate from there onwards, is likely to drag such a company down like a stone. If that happens, your PC's warranty won't be worth the paper that it's written on.

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  7. Great idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a great idea! Linux and the BSDs should start a similar initiative.

  8. How do you know?-Flying the flag. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "How do you know if you have a pirated copy of Windows?"

    The flying flag screensaver is replaced with the skull and bones.

  9. Re:Okay? by LordoftheWoods · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hmm... there is about nothing in this post I agree with. First off, patches are easy as pie to get for Microsoft products once they release them. They have some pretty damn fast servers waiting to upload all the patches they've ever released. Second, backwards (reverse?) compatibility is also impressive. You can run many many old programs on new Windowses and often vice versa. Microsoft has WAY better backwards compatibility than Linux, as things often get rearranged and rethought in Linux. The problems with MS are vendor lock-in, security holes, instability. (stability being more of a problem with Microsoft Playstation OSes of 95,98,Me) To be honest, I think backwards compatibility holds Windows back... you get tons of remnant erroneous junk from old Windowses that piles up in the garbage heap that is Microsoft Windows code. Example: The Windows Registry... big disaster, but we still have it around. Why? The registry is a pathetic unmaintained cob-web-full configuration system with information about programs you thought you'd eradicated years ago. *shudders*. It is the single biggest cause of the common view of Windowsites that Windows should be reinstalled annually. And finally, the quantity of bugs in code is irrelevant to how many people use it. More people means more get exposed, and it also means that people will try to exploit flaws in the code, but having many users doesn't automatically make you a sloppy coder. Ever wonder why Microsoft releases service packs? I figure that once they think they've squashed a good number of bugs, they need to rewrite some things in order to introduce new ones. They rewrite a bunch of now-working code in order to create new bugs just waiting to be exposed. SPs are the means to hide these among innocent security fixes and other additions. So yes, this brings me to that I do sort-of agree with your last point. They really do want you to upgrade to their latest incarnation of Windows.

  10. Re:How do you know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do you know if you have a pirated copy of Windows?

    If it says "Arrr matey, thar be a general protection fault!" and the slogan appears as "Where do ya want to sail?".

  11. Look out backyard builders by agendi · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is about getting backyard whitebox builders who install winXP on the machine to "test" it and then accidently give it to the buyer before deleting it so they can shave a few hundred off the price while still giving them a WinXP installed machine. It's a very common practice here in Sydney, Australia.

    What stinks about this scheme is that first of all most people that buy from the corner shop guys are not mum and pop (they tend to buy from the larger retail stores), they are the semi computer savvy people and small business owners that need computers a the cheapest prices and probably know very well that they aren't getting a fully licensed version but don't really care. However now that MS are going to reward them with a legit copy and give them a golden handshake - the people that are going to cop it are the PC sellers who (while they should have known better anyway) have probably done the thing on the buyers request anyhow.

    Even more scary is if you've built a system for a family member and they think they are doing the right thing by getting a legit copy may implicate you without purposely meaning to but they are trying to get something for nothing.

    Another thing, to drive the local competition out of business go buy a few machines from them with a pirated version and then graciously line up for your free legit copies then drop their names and then profit.

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  12. Re:How do you know? by uncoveror · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you have a genuine copy of Windows XP, the hologram on your CD will say, "genuine". If you have a counterfeit copy, the hologram will say, "bogus".

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  13. Re:Yet another saavy PR move by M$ -- nothing more by Tyreth · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The idea is that you purchased a computer that included windows xp in the price. You show them the receipt to prove that you paid for it.

    Microsoft then checks your version to see if it really is genuine. If it isn't, they assume you are innocent (since you have receipt to demonstrate that you bought it believing it was the real deal). Then, they go after the company that sold you the pirate version.

    So it's not a trick, it's not about converting pirates, and it's not a PR move. If you pirated your copy deliberately, then you won't be able to get a legal copy for free without getting in trouble. If you believe you have a legal copy but want to check, this is a way to do so for free.

    I'm a member of the popular Microsoft hating slashdot group, but this is not what you suggest - not as far as I understand it.

  14. OEM "Restore" Discs by SeaFox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I bought my PC from Dell and it came with WinXP preinstalled. Can I swap this stupid "restore" CD for an honest to god Windows CD????

  15. Re:Okay? by sepluv · · Score: 5, Insightful
    For the same reason they are known to encourage illegal copying of their software generally: to mantain their monopoly on the market as well as their crazy prices while (along with intertia) stopping users from going to free-software alternatives.

    This has been well documented. Basically, its the best of both worlds for Microsoft because the illegal copies are not counting towards Microsoft's sales (and therefore not helping antitrust prosecutions), the governments and large businesses were the majority of desktop PCs are (who have to obey the law and can afford the ludicrous per-seat prices of MSW) have to buy MSW because it is ubiqitous as everyone else uses (illegal copies of) MSW. If MS inflates the prices of MSW enough (as they have) they will get illegal copying but that just encourages the ubiquity of MSW, but they will be more than payed back by the sales to the few who own the majority of PCs, need to stay within the law and will pay any ludicrious price.

    Also, as Bill Gates stated in a frank moment, Microsoft want to introduce pirated copies of MSW "like a drug" into less-econmically developed countries in order to "get them hooked on" and lock them in to MSW and remove usage of free software in these countries.

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  16. Re:Their generosity is incredible by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Funny

    This will cost them a fortune! Don't those things cost hundreds of dollars a piece?

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  17. Moderating... by metalligoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    But see, we don't read the article. So summaries from readers who KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW make for awesome comments....

    Where's +1 Unfortunately True?

  18. Profit by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Funny

    It used to be like this;
    1. Create a crappy OS.
    2. Let every pirate copy it for free.
    3. Everybody uses crappy OS.
    4. Every company switches to crappy OS because everybody already uses it.
    5. Profit

    Now they've protected WinXP a bit too good;
    1. Create a crappy OS.
    2. Nobody can pirate it.
    3. Nobody uses it.
    4. No company switches.
    5. No profit.

    So they're fixing it like this;
    1. Create a crappy OS.
    2. Nobody can pirate it.
    3. Distribute it for free to pirates.
    4. Everybody uses it.
    5. Every company switches.
    6. Profit.

    Sounds familiar?

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  19. Who is it going to get? by ajs318 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In all my born days I have seen about a dozen legit copies of any version of Windows {including 3.11 on a stack of floppies} -- including about six at my workplace. Everyone else I know has an operating system they didn't pay for: either a dodgy copy of Windows, or Linux.

    This is how it works in the UK. If you go to a back-street computer shop -- not PriCey World, not Dixons, but an actual independent retailer, a 21st century artisan -- to buy a machine, you get told the cost of the hardware not including software. Not even Windows. You are then given a choice: either you can take the machine away like that and install your own software, or you can pay for a legitimate copy of Windows and Office and all the usual crap like Outlook Express and Internet Exploder.

    At this point the customer probably is going to be shocked by how much the software will cost; and unless they are particularly straight-arsed about such matters, will inquire discreetly about a cheaper way. The shopkeeper's younger assistant will offer to do the job, strictly on the quiet and subject to the customer never breathing a word. The receipt says "No Operating System" and the cost of the software is paid, in cash, straight into the assistant's sky rocket. Lovely!

    The customer leaves, thinking they got one up on Microsoft by ripping off "hundreds of pounds" of software. Hey, it feels so good, stickin' it to The Man! And Ballmer cackles, because he knows the customer still believes they need Microsoft. Truth is, it's The Man who stuck it to you. Just because you didn't pay for it, doesn't make it less buggy or crash-prone. You still haven't got the source code -- and having a competent programmer look at the source code is the only way ever to make it less buggy and crash-prone. You still get every disadvantage you would have got if you had paid full whack for a legit copy, on top of the twin disadvantages that it's illegal and you know full well.

    In a more sorted universe, the shopkeeper would of course say, "Sure! You could have Linux and OpenOffice instead, for nothing." The customer would spend a day or two getting used to it and then realise they didn't need Microsoft. The customer's friends, being emailed loads of .sxw and .sxc files, would be a little baffled at first; but soon come to realise that they are OpenOffice files. Then they would install OpenOffice -- and maybe notice that instead of dire warnings against copying, comes a notice encouraging you to copy and spread their software!

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