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Do-Not-Call List Could Be Opened For Phone Spam

Wick_7654 submits a link to this story at the Chicago Sun-Times, which begins "The agency overseeing the national Do Not Call Registry is considering opening a loophole to allow companies to deliver 'pre-recorded message telemarketing.' The effort is being organized by Allen Hile of the FTC's division of marketing practice. Be sure to let the FTC know how you feel about it." The proposed change specifies that recorded calls would be allowed only when an "established business relationship" exists, but provisions like that tend to be stretched to absurdity.

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  1. Pre-existing Business Relationship by Cyberherbalist · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, sir, your uncle's second wife's stepsister's kindergarten teacher once bought a widget from us. That establishes a clear prior business relationship between you and us.

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    1. Re:Pre-existing Business Relationship by pmazer · · Score: 5, Funny

      And when we say 'us', we mean the company that recently phoned the company down the street from our sister company which resides in Malaysia. And of course, we had records of all of this, but we recently put them in the paper shreader and then burned it, for your security's sake.

    2. Re:Pre-existing Business Relationship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yes, but what does that make us? Absolutely NOTHING!

    3. Re:Pre-existing Business Relationship by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know which is worse, government or business marketing? Did anyone get spam from the government during election time? I got like 10 automated messages a day calling in asking me to vote for Bush. Then 2 seconds later I would get another automated message for Kerry. I swear one administration has hacked into the others.

    4. Re:Pre-existing Business Relationship by DarkHelmet · · Score: 1, Funny
      How about your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate?

      (Please look at my screenname before moderating this)

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  2. Hehe by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Funny

    "If you wish to create a business relationship with Spammers Inc., hang up now! If you already have a business relationship with us, please stay on the line."

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  3. Great! by Carrot007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please let them, really, I mean how much business would they get from a "DO NOT CALL" list?

    Maybe then they will realise that these people are in fact helping them not call people who won't buy their crap.

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  4. not so smart pages by cd14 · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think your business's phone number is in that big yellow book that shows up at my door once a year, that counts as an "established business relationship" right?

  5. You had me at Hello. by DonnyCarcharo · · Score: 5, Funny

    "What do you mean no prior business relationship? You said hello. Hello is a greeting and greetings are an integral part of relationships. Now about that home mortgage..."

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  6. Help! by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Funny
    Has the entire USA become a free-for-all (big business that is) annoyfest?
    Yes. Please come liberate us!
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  7. Re:Exactly why I never signed up by devilspgd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Repeat "Please continue to hold. Your call is important *snicker* to us and we will be pleased to assist you as soon as *snicker* possible" every few minutes

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  8. Re:Military recruiters by bitslinger_42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back in high school, I had a friend with very anti-military parents. One day, when Eddie was out, the Navy called and Eddie's mom answered. She told the recruiter that Eddie couldn't come to the phone because he was spending the night at his boyfriend's house. Eddie never got another call from any of the military branches :-)

  9. My revenge HAHAHA by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny
    At work, we started getting calls from disgruntled or eager-to-be-disgruntled customers of a SatTV service. After answering the millionth call of people telling me to stop calling them, I finally got one of the victims to give me the name on the flyer and the phone number. The name was enough to find the company and tell them to change their marketing materials, as their phone number listed was ours.

    Of course, I got thrown in the 'endless hold for angry customers' (Verified on the newsgroups). After five times trying to get ahold of someone who could fix this ever increasing volume of calls, I lost it and started a barrage of calls using 5 lines and an autodialer. I would get to just before where an operator picked up, and put them on hold, then move to the next line. I got amazingly good at it, and picked up the line on some telemarketing stragglers screaming, "WHO IS THIS!?!".

    I kept this up for an hour, which I am pretty sure fucked up their profit margin on that day.

    Still more calls a few days later - I guess they thought I wasn't serious. Another polite request to talk to the manager, and a dump into endless hold.

    Operation Eternal Freedom went into effect again, and this time I feigned an old lady's voice, "I'm trying to reach my son, -insert name here-", on every seventh call. The others went right to hold, until they found no one on the line and hung up. Of course, I was ready with an autodialed response. 45 minutes (while waiting for a backup to complete) later, I called it a day.

    Third time, three 45 minute sessions - I got where I could do it one handed on speakerphone, and get some real work done.

    No more calls after that.

    Did they get my message? I left about 2,463.

  10. Re:you know... by legirons · · Score: 2, Funny

    "You know what would be a fantastic gadget to have?"

    "I'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the phone"

    (misquoting bash.org , if such a thing is possible)