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NASA's Deep Impact

NivenMK1 writes "The Seattle Times has an interesting article on NASA's plan to nail the comet Tempel 1 with a chunk of copper the size of a bathtub on July 4 this year. This copper 'bullet' is intended to strike the comet at approximately 23,000 mph and hit with a force equivalent to 4.7 tons of TNT. Scientists hope to discover what exactly the comet is made of and what changes have occurred to the outer layers with reference to the core."

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  1. Cue Warner Bros cartoon... by Linker3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...where the bullet misses its target and curves back round to origin.

    Don't miss guys - and watch out for Hubble!

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  2. I don't know about you... by Ramsey-07 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ....But hitting a rock on Independance day sounds like a bad idea, what if it's an Alien's rock?

    We can't just keep going around the Solar system bashing things up that's not ours!

    1. Re:I don't know about you... by lxt · · Score: 5, Funny

      To be honest, I think I many more people wouldn't mind the White House being destroyed by aliens this time around... :)

  3. Silly question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why copper?

    Is it because Tempel 1 is known to not contain any copper itself, so it makes the spectral signature easier to read?

    1. Re:Silly question... by XenonDif · · Score: 5, Informative
      to quote NASA:

      "The impactor is made primarily of copper (49%) as opposed to aluminum (24%) because it minimizes corruption of spectral emission lines that are used to analyze the nucleus."

      http://deepimpact.jpl.nasa.gov/tech/impactor.html

  4. Re:Expensive launch mass? by imsabbel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want to analyse the comet, which you can do by looking at the emission lines of the cloud forming after the impact, ect.
    An explosive is normally composed of chemically very reactive components, that can react with each other and the material of the comet, making it very hard to discern what WAS there and what was created by the blast.

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  5. I just know that... by zecg · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...NASA is lying. The comet is actually heading straight for Earth and the best plan they have is to launch a copper bathtub filled with Bruce Willis.

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  6. The Original Plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Was to scour the earth and gather together the meanest ex-con alcoholic drilling team humankind has to offer, and land them on the comet with a couple of nuclear warheads for this experiment.

    Unfortunately, the MPAA sent a cease and desist order to NASA informing them that this would be infringing on the IP of one of their client's copyrighted movies.

    Hence, plan B involves throwing a bathtub at the comet instead. Go NASA!

  7. Forgot one thing: by imsabbel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look at the numbers:
    The impact power of the copper rod is 4+ tonnes of TNT. IF you wanted to double the blast, you would have to send more than 4 tonnes of explosives.
    at 30km/s+, the kinetic energy of the material is bigger than the chemical energy of explosives.
    The added energy just doesnt matter anymore because it would be difficult to time the blast, plus the softness of the explosives would reduce the impact penetration.

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  8. Re:Expensive launch mass? by HeghmoH · · Score: 5, Informative

    The lump of copper is 820 pounds, and will be equivalent to 5 tons of TNT. If you sent an 820-pound lump of TNT, you would get an explosion of about 5.4 tons of TNT. An extra .4 tons-TNT increase, in exchange for a vastly more dangerous mission and chemical contamination is not a good trade.

    At these speeds, the kinetic energy is so great that chemical explosives are nearly pointless.

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  9. Re:$311 million!! by XenonDif · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Spending 311 million dollars without knowing what happens next doesnt seem a very nice idea.

    Nasa is conducting the experiment precicely BECAUSE nobody know what will happen next. If we knew with certainty what was going to happen, THEN there wouldn't be a very good reason for carrying on with the experiment.

    Last year they spent $200 billion blowing up comet Baghdad and we're all still waiting to see how that cliffhanger's going to end! This time it's cheaper and it doens't involve killing anybody.

  10. Re:Expensive launch mass? by Mod+Me+God+Five · · Score: 5, Funny

    And millions of years from now the aliens invezstigating the comet will scratch their heads thinking 'why is there a piece of copper the size of a bathtub on this comet'. Far greater amusement factor.

  11. Re:Uh.... does this strike anybody else as wrong? by f4llenang3l · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems so destructive to possibly break apart something that's been circling our sun for millions of years.
    Have you looked out your window recently?

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  12. Re:Expensive launch mass? by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 5, Funny
    Would it not be cheaper/better to drop a lump of high explosive on it rather than a heavy lump of copper?

    Given NASA's budget, copper made more sense. Finding themselves unable to afford chemical or nuclear explosives, NASA employees have spent the last four years collecting stray pennies - checking under seat cushions in taxis, keeping a watchful eye on the sidewalks and streets near their offices, and so on and so forth. Also, twice a year they held bake sales in the Vistor's Center where purchases had to be paid for entirely in pennies. Since they also lacked the budget to purchase a safe, or even a large piggy bank, one enterprising employee scrounged an old bathtub from a nearby dump, and placed it in the hall outside the Deep Impact lab for people to toss the pennies into. (Which is why the project is using the new "size of a bathtub" metric instead of the international "Volkswagon" unit of measurement.)

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  13. One more good reason... by p_trekkie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Another reason they are doing a kinetic impact is because they want to judge the structure of the comet. Right now, scientists don't really know if the comet's consistency is that of a fluffy snowball or a hard chunk of ice. If you used explosives, you would have melting of the ice, whatever its consistency, and would get less information about the construction of the comet. Once possibility is that the comet might be loosely packed enough that the impactor goes in one side and flies out the other....

    Also, I'm surprised the article submitter didn't include a link to the mission website.....

  14. Re:$311 million!! by novakyu · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Spending 311 million dollars without knowing what happens next doesnt seem a very nice idea.

    And I quote:
    "If we knew what we were doing it wouldn't be research."
    - Albert Einstein

  15. Re:Expensive launch mass? by djmurdoch · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do we know that this hasn't already happened and that there isn't already a bathtub sized chunk of copper on it.

    It'll be easy to tell them apart. Aliens are generally either tall and thin or short and squat, so their bathtubs would be quite a different shape.

  16. Kill it!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Leave it to Americans to come up with a plan along the lines of: "Wonder what that's made of... lets blow it up!"