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WiFi Seeker, Finder, Detector Roundup

captainJam points to this review at handtops.com of five reasonably priced hardware WiFi finders. A snippet: "If you're not using a WiFi enabled PDA, you either have to turn on your handtop or laptop, or wake it from standby just to check if there's a network in the area. While a WiFi Finder / Seeker won't make a connection out of thin air, it will conveniently tell you whether there is a WiFi network in the area."

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  1. A conversation regarding my WiFi detector... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My girlfriend's dad once asked me what I was doing with my curious little LED encrusted black box... "It's a WiFi detector" I said.

    "A wife detector?" He replied.

    "Erm, no. Would be a good hack, though".

    1. Re:A conversation regarding my WiFi detector... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well.. At least you weren't using a Stud Finder.

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  2. New fangled methods! by Penguinoflight · · Score: 5, Funny

    What ever happend to licking your finger and feeling for which way the wifi is blowing?

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  3. time by Suburbanpride · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its takes less than 7 seconds from the time I open the lid on my powerbook untill I can browse available networks. The wifi dector doesn't even tell you if you will be able to connect to the network or not. I don't really see the use for these devices

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    1. Re:time by Erwos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Have you ever tried to take out a laptop and do something useful with it while walking?

      I could easily press a button on a keychain while walking. Hell, even that $50 fancy one looks easy enough to manage. There's NO WAY your laptop is going to be as easy to use.

      If I am hunting for a WiFi signal, I don't want to stop, find a place to rest a laptop, spend thirty seconds setting it up, and then clicking a couple times to see if, indeed, there is a signal even ONCE. Screw doing it over and over.

      "I don't really see the use for these devices"

      Stop being so self-centered, and maybe you would.

      -Erwos

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    2. Re:time by IO+ERROR · · Score: 4, Informative
      Ever go sniffing in places that are... well, less then suitable to carry around a laptop (or conceil one while sniffing)?

      Oh yes. I just keep the laptop running while inside its nice leather carrying case. I use Kismet and it will tell me the SSID, MAC address, and GPS coordinates so I can find it again later.

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  4. encrypted? by VE3ECM · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, only one of the devices is able to detect if a node is running encryption.

    At about 2X the cost of the cheapest one (50 vs. 25 bucks), it's easily worth the expense.

    I dunno about you, but the amount of time it would take me to get my laptop out of my bag, fire it up, and try to connect isn't minor.

    The ability to show if I'm wasting my time or not is worth the extra 25 bucks.

  5. Re:Application? by aaza · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. "Hmmm, I wonder how far I can get from the office, and still be connected to the network..."

    2. "I wonder if someone else has a WiFi connection in my appartment block that is causing problems with my laptop connection to my home network" (do they interfere? Or can you just choose which to connect to?)

    3. "Does this library have WiFi?" (Yeah, I know. Ask at the desk. But what kind of self-respecting geek asks, when he/she can find out for him/herself?)

    Laugh. It's funny.

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  6. This makes me wonder... by brxndxn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think our generation is gonna be walking around the city with these things when we're old like the old people at beaches with metal detectors..

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  7. Hm.. by kaitou · · Score: 5, Informative

    That sort of thing would probably be pretty useless here in NYC.

    The problem is, that a lot of networks -seem- open, but require a login once you are connected, and around here, you are never far from a signal, so I just never found it worthwhile to plunk down the $30 or so they ask for them.

    The only one of them that I find interesting is the Canary one, which actualy has an LCD that shows you the SSID of the network. But I am not sure it's worth the $50 to me, but it's a much better value then any of the "if the light blinks, you got WiFi" ones.

  8. Expensive but excellent solution. by Yaztromo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The best solution by far that I've found is my Palm Tungsten C running NetChaser. Not only does it detect the networks, it will let you know their SSIDs, the last time you saw them, their MAC address, and a pile of other information. It can alert you by a tone or by using the Tungsten C's vibration function, and can operate with the screen off. It can even initiate a WiFi connection to a selected network.

    I've had mine set-up to operate with the screen off, and vibrate when an unencrypted network is encountered. I can walk around with it in my pocket and can silently know when I'm within range of an unencrypted wireless signal (it just logs the encrypted ones without vibrating). At that point, I can either connect from the T|C, or whip out my PowerBook.

    It's been fun walking around the neighbourhood with it in my pocket looking for open networks. I seem to hit upon one ever 2 or 3 houses. It's nice to know that if I'm really hard up for cash I can probably print up a bunch of fliers and distribute them around the neighbourhood where there are open access points offering to secure their access points for cash :).

    Yaz.

  9. So what's inside? by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 4, Insightful
    With prices ranging from $25-$50, I can't help the obvious thought: what needs to be inside such a WiFi finder, and... what should a simple thingie like this cost?

    Duhh.. antenna (cheap), plastic box (cents), couple of LED's/switches (cents), batteries (included?), small PCB (cheap), some dedicated IC's (???, anyone got some info here?), design/packaging/retail etc. (large portion of street price?)

    Easy to build yourself as hobby project? Estimated price a couple of years from now?

  10. I can't believe I can finally... by enystrom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... buy a working Sub-Etha Sens-O-Matic!

  11. What I saw while reading the article... by fmaxwell · · Score: 4, Informative
    So we pulled out our Smart Id WiFi detector, purchased at ThinkGeek and proceeded to walk the streets, laptops in backpacks, Wifi detector in hand.

    Lo and behold, a few blocks from the hotel we found our first wifi hotspot, only to find it was secure. We walked on only to find another secure hotspot. After walking the French Quarter for the next 2 hours we had found several hotspots, but none that we could tap into. Now we realized that we really should have been partying.

    Why can't someone build a WiFi detector that finds the hotspot, flashes if its open and blinks if it can be subscribed to?


    From the article:
    Out in the field, the HS10 works very well. If any networks are found, it stops scanning and then scrolls the SID / name, its strength, whether it is encrypted or open and the channel the network is on. Pressing the button again will continue scanning.

    No other WiFi finder gives you this much information. Knowing whether there are any open networks in the area can save you from powering up / waking up your handtop/laptop, only to find out the network is encrypted. Detection is quick and range is above par, from 300-610 feet.
    The only thing that seems to be missing is detection of whether the network is locked down by MAC address. Isn't the device described above approximately what you are looking for?
  12. Why the need for a WiFi finder? by theantix · · Score: 4, Funny

    Most areas these days are covered by the gratis "linksys" network, so just set your essid and join the ranks of people who use "linksys" as our ISP. My apartment had access to two strong "linksys" signals, left completely unsecured by generous donors, and the same network is available at my girlfriend's place a 2.5 hour drive away. These WiFi finders seem pretty useless to me.

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  13. The basic circuit by EvilMidnightBomber · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The standard incarnation is a generic rf detector/level meter with an antenna that is tuned to 2.4ghz.

    The Basic Circuit
    (Back the url up one dir for datasheets and pics of one hobbyists's implementation)

    And another version using a pic instead of a dedicated display driver chip.

  14. Don't buy the original Kensington finder! by GekkePrutser · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article says that it couldn't test the original Kensington finder, but that they only heard bad news about it. This is true according to my experiences.

    I've got one myself, bought it about a year ago in a typical airport impulse purchase :-) This is the grey-metallic creditcard-sized one with 3 lights. Unfortunately it sucks, the lights are way too dim to be seen in any sunlight and the button is so weak it gets pressed in your pocket and wastes battery power. Besides that it detects any bluetooth phone as well and doesn't mention the difference (so it seems WiFi is detected).

    I've also seen situations where I was able to get a WiFi connection on my laptop and the finder showed none, and the other way around (probably because it detected a bluetooth signal). I can't recommend it at all!

    Just my 2 cents :-)