It's incredibly easy to talk to the ISS from the earth... you don't need a particularily high-powered radio to do it. In fact, the radio on the ISS is a plain jane, Kenwood dual-band radio.
I don't know about you, but I've never heard of 'Madison River Communications Corp'...
Sounds like a small fish in the pond. A 15K fine is definitely going to make them pay attention.
And it's going to make the big players sit up and take notice.
Think of this more as a "warning shot across the bow" than a slap on the wrist.
Hell, I'm off to J&R to 'pick up' the latest DVD I was going to d/l...
And you figure, because the tangible good is pressed, not burned or stored in a HDD, it'll last a lot longer...
All this article does is show how unequal punishments are in the Western judicial system.
"This almost would seem like a reasonable argument, except that MS would probably charge dell an arm and a leg to "distribute" the patches, as that is strictly forbidden by MS on their update service."
Wow, imagine if MS rewrote their EULA to get around that?
"Further, it would be a huge chore for Dell to do... [a]nd there you have the reason why Dell doesn't do it either, they would be forced to create a huge staff just to test each new patch level against their hardware, and a large enough set of software that you could call it 'representative'."
It wouldn't be a chore. MS is pretty good at testing their patches internally before they go out. And I'm sure there's something in the EULA's that added software, if it breaks when a patch is applied, isn't Dell's or MS's concern. In fact, try and install Nero 6.3 on SP2. The very first thing that pops up is a big ol' warning that says "There are issues with using this software with this version of Windows."
That's pretty cut-and-dry.
"Hi we're GM, we made this car but as soon as someone drives this car off the lot with these tires, and this fuel pump, the car will fail. So, here's the deal, dealership, we expect you to pay us for this version of the car, and then at your own expense you need to put new tires on this car, and a new fuel pump in it. Now remember though, if you put a new fuel pump in it, it might break the spark plug system, and if it does, you'll have to re-engineer the spark plug system for us... how does that sound?"
That analogy doesn't fit at all.
I was talking about this with someone else this morning, and yes, erosion of margin is the biggest hurdle to face.
How do you solve it?
Simple. Do what the goverment does to the auto industry (a la airbags, seatbelts, etc): Make it mandatory.
If you want to sell a copy of MS Windows, whether you're a big box store, the guy on the corner, or Dell, you have to committ to selling a fully patched box at the time it walks out the door.
If everyone has to do it, then it'll get factored into the final price equation.
"Despite having done all that, a non-trivial number of our new machines will be infected with some virus or some spyware within 6 months of delivery."
You're fucking kidding, right?
ANY machine, whether it's Windows, Mac or Linux that goes online for SIX MONTHS and doesn't have a routine maintenance system in place is GOING TO GET SICK.
The only reason so many Windows boxes get pwned out of the box is because the 'bad guys' have already written exploits that get in through an unpatched bug.
Who's fault is this? Is it Microsofts? Not really, at least how I see it.
I blame the computer manufacturer that you bought the box from.
Those holes that are in your windows box when you plug it into the net already have patches written for them.
It's the manufacturers that refuse to slipstream these packages into the software builds that they stick on their machines coming out of the factory.
Dell builds your PC to order, as do a few other guys. The hard drive has an OS imaged onto the drive on the line. And since there is a common image for each machine of the same family, it's a very simple process for Dell to image their machines on the line. Each model has it's own OS image, based on hardware. It would take very little effort to slipstream an updated patch into those images. No PC has to sit in an open box waiting to be patched; they are patched when they're built. That is not a difficult solution, it would take the hiring of one or two guys in the factory to add a slipstream into the disk image (and slipstreaming is *very* easy, as long as you know the process.)
It would be easy as pie. Your machine would come off the line patched, and current. It would only be out of date by a few days, the time it would take to ship the box to you from the factory. The likelihood of a new exploit that would pwn you in that time is very, very low.
Same thing with going to a retailer. They should be provided current and up to date boxes when they leave the store. It would not be difficult for BestBuy/CircuitCity/et al to stick the box/laptop you buy inside their secured network, and patch the machine before you walk out the door with it.
Let's use an analogy that the author of the article used; a new car.
You buy a new Ford. Before you bought it, Ford issued a recall, due to a defective gas tank that may or may not explode. When you buy the car off the lot, it may have sat there a few months (parallel = older unpatched windows build). You take it home to find out that the recall was not applied to the vehicle; why not? Because the dealer says it's your responsibility to get it in to get fixed; not the dealers.
Would that be acceptable? No. Not for a moment. The same thing is happening with Windows, and you can't blame MS for it. It's the PC makers that sell you an exploitable box.
"The electromagnetic radiation has the uncanny habit of not giving a flying fuck as to what self-righteous people want and just travels according to laws of physics."
You moron. The issue has nothing to do with transmissions over the air. If you can stick a dish or antenna in the air and grab the signals, then watch away!
The issue is taking said transmissions and REBROADCASTING them. In this case, over the internet.
The only absurdity here is your inability to grasp that very simple concept.
In fact, it is so simple to grasp that one can only conclude that you are arguing this point only for the sake of trolling.
"No there is not, all our lifes are spent "actively" seeking experiences, and all we do is process thoughts and images. Some of which you claim to be forbidden until payment rendered. My point stands"
Some of them ARE forbidden until payment is rendered, regardless of the delusional world you live in.
Or do you purport to be able to walk into a movie theater, baseball game, etc and watch the show without paying? If so, please share how you do that.
"Oh dear, you mean to tell me that you somehow attained the universal and exclusive control of the word VE3ECM?"
First off, it's not a word. Secondly, actually, yes. I do control the right to the callsign VE3ECM for the rest of my life, as far as the callsign goes. Like I said, if you knew what my username meant, you'd be able to find my full info in mere seconds.
You have reasons for not boasting your name? True. Cowardice is the main one.
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At least, they're granted callsigns, which in return would infer that they have a license.
5 astro/cosmonauts and their callsigns
I wouldn't be surprised if they were granted license sans examination.
Contacts made from/to the ISS
Official NASA ISS Amateur Radio Page
ARRL ISS Page
It's incredibly easy to talk to the ISS from the earth... you don't need a particularily high-powered radio to do it. In fact, the radio on the ISS is a plain jane, Kenwood dual-band radio.
Have you seen the size of a regular iPod next to the Treo?
Here you go.
Um, I'm an idiot. I was thinking of "Mrs. Thumb and her 4 lovely daughters", and not Rosie PALM and her five sisters.
I wanna go home.
Are you a mutant? Rosie and her five sisters means you have 6 fingers.... how does that feel?
Sounds like a small fish in the pond. A 15K fine is definitely going to make them pay attention.
And it's going to make the big players sit up and take notice.
Think of this more as a "warning shot across the bow" than a slap on the wrist.
I have 2. Still using them today. Have managed to rack up enough spare parts to keep them going just fine.
My 701CS still gets oohs and ahhs when I open it up and the keyboard slides out.
I will be very sad the day they die for good.
Yep, you guessed it: Profit!
Uh, hello? What other motivation does a for-profit business ultimately have?
Stupidest. Comment. Ever.
And you figure, because the tangible good is pressed, not burned or stored in a HDD, it'll last a lot longer...
All this article does is show how unequal punishments are in the Western judicial system.
Wow, imagine if MS rewrote their EULA to get around that?
"Further, it would be a huge chore for Dell to do... [a]nd there you have the reason why Dell doesn't do it either, they would be forced to create a huge staff just to test each new patch level against their hardware, and a large enough set of software that you could call it 'representative'."
It wouldn't be a chore. MS is pretty good at testing their patches internally before they go out. And I'm sure there's something in the EULA's that added software, if it breaks when a patch is applied, isn't Dell's or MS's concern. In fact, try and install Nero 6.3 on SP2. The very first thing that pops up is a big ol' warning that says "There are issues with using this software with this version of Windows."
That's pretty cut-and-dry.
"Hi we're GM, we made this car but as soon as someone drives this car off the lot with these tires, and this fuel pump, the car will fail. So, here's the deal, dealership, we expect you to pay us for this version of the car, and then at your own expense you need to put new tires on this car, and a new fuel pump in it. Now remember though, if you put a new fuel pump in it, it might break the spark plug system, and if it does, you'll have to re-engineer the spark plug system for us... how does that sound?"
That analogy doesn't fit at all.
How do you solve it?
Simple. Do what the goverment does to the auto industry (a la airbags, seatbelts, etc): Make it mandatory.
If you want to sell a copy of MS Windows, whether you're a big box store, the guy on the corner, or Dell, you have to committ to selling a fully patched box at the time it walks out the door.
If everyone has to do it, then it'll get factored into the final price equation.
You're fucking kidding, right?
ANY machine, whether it's Windows, Mac or Linux that goes online for SIX MONTHS and doesn't have a routine maintenance system in place is GOING TO GET SICK.
But you go ahead and blame Microsoft.
Worst. Reply. Ever.
The only reason so many Windows boxes get pwned out of the box is because the 'bad guys' have already written exploits that get in through an unpatched bug.
Who's fault is this? Is it Microsofts? Not really, at least how I see it.
I blame the computer manufacturer that you bought the box from.
Those holes that are in your windows box when you plug it into the net already have patches written for them.
It's the manufacturers that refuse to slipstream these packages into the software builds that they stick on their machines coming out of the factory.
Dell builds your PC to order, as do a few other guys.
The hard drive has an OS imaged onto the drive on the line.
And since there is a common image for each machine of the same family, it's a very simple process for Dell to image their machines on the line.
Each model has it's own OS image, based on hardware.
It would take very little effort to slipstream an updated patch into those images. No PC has to sit in an open box waiting to be patched; they are patched when they're built. That is not a difficult solution, it would take the hiring of one or two guys in the factory to add a slipstream into the disk image (and slipstreaming is *very* easy, as long as you know the process.)
It would be easy as pie. Your machine would come off the line patched, and current. It would only be out of date by a few days, the time it would take to ship the box to you from the factory. The likelihood of a new exploit that would pwn you in that time is very, very low.
Same thing with going to a retailer. They should be provided current and up to date boxes when they leave the store. It would not be difficult for BestBuy/CircuitCity/et al to stick the box/laptop you buy inside their secured network, and patch the machine before you walk out the door with it.
Let's use an analogy that the author of the article used; a new car.
You buy a new Ford. Before you bought it, Ford issued a recall, due to a defective gas tank that may or may not explode. When you buy the car off the lot, it may have sat there a few months (parallel = older unpatched windows build). You take it home to find out that the recall was not applied to the vehicle; why not? Because the dealer says it's your responsibility to get it in to get fixed; not the dealers.
Would that be acceptable? No. Not for a moment. The same thing is happening with Windows, and you can't blame MS for it. It's the PC makers that sell you an exploitable box.
C'est la vie. I still got an FP, and still have excellent karma. It was worth a couple of points.
Please seek help. Immediately.
Naw, I have to call. Her hearing aid is acting up.
I *actually* got a first post.
I can not believe this is so!
Oh happy day! I think I shall call my mother and share with her the wonderous news!
Did I do it?
Is that fair? Maybe. Maybe not. But your only recourse (save that of illegal behaviours) is to petition the lawmakers to change said laws.
You moron. The issue has nothing to do with transmissions over the air. If you can stick a dish or antenna in the air and grab the signals, then watch away!
The issue is taking said transmissions and REBROADCASTING them. In this case, over the internet.
The only absurdity here is your inability to grasp that very simple concept.
In fact, it is so simple to grasp that one can only conclude that you are arguing this point only for the sake of trolling.
You deserve a medal for your ability to twist words.
By limiting access to something based on geographic location the copyright holder has effectively restricted the physical location.
Nice try, though.
Some of them ARE forbidden until payment is rendered, regardless of the delusional world you live in.
Or do you purport to be able to walk into a movie theater, baseball game, etc and watch the show without paying? If so, please share how you do that.
"Oh dear, you mean to tell me that you somehow attained the universal and exclusive control of the word VE3ECM?"
First off, it's not a word. Secondly, actually, yes. I do control the right to the callsign VE3ECM for the rest of my life, as far as the callsign goes. Like I said, if you knew what my username meant, you'd be able to find my full info in mere seconds.
You have reasons for not boasting your name? True. Cowardice is the main one.