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EuroBSDCon 2004
Anonymous Reward writes "During the final weekend of October, nearly 200 people attended EuroBSDCon in Karlsruhe, Germany. The event offered a keynote by Apple's Jordan Hubbard, 23 talks organized in two tracks, a social event inside Luigi Colani's exhibition, and multiple coffee breaks to socialize. ONLamp.com has just published a report with funny pics..."
I think that it would be a very interesting thing to have a conference where as many developers as possible get together for a week long party and idea mixer.
One where the developers of things like OpenBGPd could talk straight to the developers of FreeBSD about how to properly integrate it, showing what was done to make it all work on OpenBSD and getting it to on FreeBSD.
Where people that make the systems and tools are face to face with one another and actually interact. How better can anyone spot the various pros and cons of the BSDs and improve on them then bringing together the people that work on the different codebases and getting them to talk and read eachother's stuff.
I am not saying that putting Darren Reed and Daniel Hartmeier in seats right next to each other would be the best thing, but getting people together really could help out the quality of all the projects.
I'm sick of following my dreams - I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
Jordan Hubbard is most definately *NOT* 23...
More proof that BSD are a lively corpse : "By the way, some time ago I heard an advocacy speech by Murray Stokely who said something amazing that I think we should write everywhere. If you take Linux as a unique movement, then it is bigger than FreeBSD, but if you take each distribution (per Netcraft's Linux OS detection statistics), then FreeBSD has more users than Red Hat. Did you know that?"
The BSD license is better than the GPL because it gives a person the choice to contribute their changes of their own freewill. The GPL forces people to release their changes to the public if they redistribute their code. Forced sharing is fundamentally and morally wrong.
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Most people will agree that the GPL is hard for businesses to accept because of the forced sharing model, while the more liberal BSD license is easier to accept. See http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.as
Given the opportunity, a company will redistribute its changes as Apple has done. While Apple has not released its proprietary or patented code, it has released its code to its FreeBSD based Darwin kernel and Konqueror based Safari browser.
I wouldn't call FreeBSD stagnant either. In fact I'd call FreeBSD 5.3 better than Linux.
The BSD license is better than the GPL because it gives a person the choice to contribute their changes of their own freewill. The GPL forces people to release their changes to the public if they redistribute their code. Forced sharing is fundamentally and morally wrong.
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It isn't forcing them to do anything, you troll.
But I'll take the GPL license, so any companies that accept the terms of my software, and try to sell me back my own code will give me access to the source too.
Most people will agree that the GPL is hard for businesses to accept because of the forced sharing model, while the more liberal BSD license is easier to accept. See http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.as
Are you joking? Do you know how many commercial companies contribute GPLed code to the GPLed Linux kernel? Contributing to BSD licensed projects is what scares companies away. Because there is nothing to stop a competitor from taking exactly what they've contributed, adding a small amount of value to it, closing it up, and having a better product for lower price.
Interesting trivia: Before IBM's big Linux push, they actually had a lot more BSD gurus on their staff. So do the fricking math buddy. Or do you think you're smarter than IBM when it comes to commercial and software decisions?
Oh, IBM have contributed proprietary and patented code to the Linux kernel too.
Let's rattle off some names. AMD, Intel, Novell, IBM, RedHat, Sun, Dell, Sony, NEC, Fujitsu, SGI, Toshiba, TI, Oracle.
Given the opportunity, a company will redistribute its changes as Apple has done. While Apple has not released its proprietary or patented code, it has released its code to its FreeBSD based Darwin kernel and Konqueror based Safari browser.
Funny that apple contributes *far* more code to the GPLed GCC project than it does to the BSD licensed FreeBSD.
I wouldn't call FreeBSD stagnant either. In fact I'd call FreeBSD 5.3 better than Linux.
I would call you a troll.
No surprise that Research conducted at Harvard in year *2000* (here's the full text) tells a different story: BSD's Soft Updates technology is on par with journaling on the whole, and in many cases it provides superior performance.
It's nice to see the GNU fans spreading FUD about BSD (this, and the whole "BSD is dying" campaign). One might wonder what's the difference between GNU and the big and evil corporations they hate so much, since they're using the same dishonest marketing techniques - and spreading FUD is really the most disgusting.
Luckily, the OS world hasn't been monopolized yet by FUD-spreading corporations and FUD-spreading communists. There still is BSD - and it's here to stay. :)
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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.
It was started by some guy with a server, not a programmer. A project needs a lead that can actually lead it if it is to be a sucess, some guy that wants people to do some programming for him is not a lead but more of a figurehead.
BSD usage is on the rise, it has never stopped increasing in it's userbase.
BSD's overall market penetration on a purely single operating system basis (ie: take each Linux operating system as it's own operating system rather than they all being one operating system) is actually doing very good.
The sometimes conflicting personalities of major players in the BSD communities have resulted in some of the more interesting and vibrant projects around including a new idea for doing symmetric multiprocessing being implemented, a few new C functions which are better than their predecessors being created, a free SSH suite used by damn high most every operating system out there and many more things that would not have occured without these people having their own unique personalities.
BeOS is still poking around and Amiga based systems are as well, I guess that operating systems don't die.
Anyways, you guys need to be more original in your stupid trolls, they aren't entertaining, they aren't true and they don't even make sense half the time. You all need to go to a writing seminar. This stuff comes out like a really bad tabloid.
I'm sick of following my dreams - I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
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