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BitTorrent Servers Under DDoS Attacks

jZnat writes "CNet News.com reports that popular BitTorrent tracker hosts such as Suprnova and LokiTorrent underwent DDoS attacks on Wednesday (I'll bet you noticed). The culprits are primarily unknown, but these sites were flooded beyond control from the attack. This appears to be striking an interest in revising the BT protocol and Suprnova's interest in making their own protocol."

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  1. Come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    We all know it's the MPAA and RIAA.

  2. Stinks of RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    RIAA adopting Lycos's tactics?

    1. Re:Stinks of RIAA by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Funny

      or lycos selling it's services, or mpaa/riaa spamming on behalf of suprnova to get them attacked?

      talk about a can of worms, that lycos screensaver...

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  3. To add insult to injury... by Infinityis · · Score: 5, Funny

    As if that weren't enough, now they'll most certainly feel some variant of the Slashdot effect as people try to check it out. Way to go!

    1. Re:To add insult to injury... by MC+Negro · · Score: 4, Funny

      As if that weren't enough, now they'll most certainly feel some variant of the Slashdot effect

      No linky in the blerb. Most of slashdot has adopted the custom of simply middle-clicking a link to a new tab and then avoiding all forms of digesting information from that opened link (it's what's fashionable now). I seriously doubt the average Slashdot reader will take the time to resort to the arcane practice of TYPING URLs simply to simulate the view of smoldering server ashes. They'll wait until IBM releases the their next voice-to-text software program ("UNCLE SPEAK & SPELL, ENTERPRISE EDITION") for that.

      Although I was hoping for a link in the blerb. Maybe that would induct "Best Gang-Raping of a Server" into the awards section.
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    2. Re:To add insult to injury... by mrbuttboy · · Score: 3, Funny

      ....typing URLs .....like,by hand? what,everybody doesn't highling-right click-open in new tab?.....wow.....

      I love firefox.

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    3. Re:To add insult to injury... by lav-chan · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know, uh, Internet Explorer has a very similar feature. And i'm pretty sure it's had it for, like, almost the last decade.

      INTERNET EXPLORER FOR PRESIDENT

  4. Sure it wasn't just folks flocking for RoTK EE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    :-P

  5. I can see it now... by Infinityis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Future Slashdot headline: Lycos apologizes for wrongly targeted DDoS attacks

  6. Re:suprnova.com and .net by Infinityis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, good idea, I shou^H^H^H^H^H^H whoever is the culprit should have done that. You're absolutely right.

  7. Re:suprnova.com and .net by usernotfound · · Score: 3, Funny

    my suitemate saw me using suprnova.org, and promply went to his room, and signed up for suprnova.com.

    if only he had asked me what i was doing...but i got a good laugh out of it.

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  8. Dammit! by halcyon1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I knew I shouldn't have installed that new screensaver from the MPAA.

  9. The culprit by Vulcann · · Score: 2, Funny
    Lets see now....

    I would be interested in doing a DDoS attack like this...
    1. If I was a rival service trying to kill these guys.
    2. If I were MPAA and wanted to kill these buggers off Blaster style.
    3. If I were some dumb script kiddie trying to make a statement because of want of attention.

    Point 1 doesnt make sense because it would make more sense for my service to figure out a way to plug into the rival network and siphon off they're shares. It would get me more notice and wont get me noticed as a nasty SOB.

    Point 2 is unlikely because though these agencies are a mean litigating bunch, they are unlikely to condone something like this. More so that *if* they were discovered, they would be in a LOT of trouble (read : law suits galore!)

    Point 3 seems more likely. Some guys just can't get enough attention. Downing the SCO site has been done already and people seem to be running out of ripe juicy targets that'll get them noticed.
  10. How much is left? by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1, Funny
    Hrm, okay...

    %35 of all traffic is Bittorrent

    Now there's enough traffic out there to DDoS it. Networks are usually "congested" at 60%. 60% of 35 is 21. That means another 21% if "all traffic" is being used up.

    ~56% of the Internet is being used both for and against Bittorrent.

    So we only have 4% of the Internet left before it, too, becomes congested?

    I wonder how much of that 4% /. gets allocated? Although, if there are no websites left to /., will getting /.'d even matter anymore?

  11. Huh? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know what the hell your statistics prove,or even if they're right, but I do know that, wherever he or she is, your high school mathematics teacher would be proud of you.

    Have you given serious thought to a career in marketing or PR? With that kind of commitment to mumbo jumbo and ridiculous statistics you'd be a natural.

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  12. Flaw in your logic by Raul654 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You have a fatal flaw in your logic. You are assuming that people will read the article.

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  13. Re:Small-timers get it too by m00nun1t · · Score: 5, Funny

    I had a look at 127.0.0.1 to see what "videos" you are talking about. There's some really kinky videos there - pervert.

  14. Re:Wait a minute by neitzsche · · Score: 2, Funny
    If a small group decided that slashdot was politically unsettling (and they'd have quite a lot to go on) and decided to take it down for a few days I expect that most of us would be annoyed.
    But damn my boss would be happy!

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  15. Netcraft confirms it: by JThundley · · Score: 4, Funny

    It is official; Netcraft confirms: Bittorrent is dying.

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Bittorrent community when IDC confirmed that Bittorrent market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all P2P services. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Bittorrent has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Bittorrent is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict Bittorrent's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Bittorrent faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Bittorrent because Bittorrent is dying. Things are looking very bad for Bittorrent. As many of us are already aware, Bittorrent continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    Azureus is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Azureus developers Bob Wentz and J.D. Stone only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Azureus is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    BitTornado leader TheShad0w that there are 7000 users of BitTornado. How many users of burst! are there? Let's see. The number of BitTornado versus burst! posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 BitTornado users. Bittorrent posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of BitTornado posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dbblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

    Jesus Christ this trolling shit is hard to do. I know I left the other half with BSD :(

    1. Re:Netcraft confirms it: by hrm · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can tell slashdot culture is going down the drain when even the trolls can't be bothered to send in a properly updated post.

      Not just you, but the old people in Korea and Soviet Russia are absent as well. And who's imagining beowulf clusters of bittorrent sites these days, even if it's in Japan?

      The ./ posts confirm it: trolling is dying!

  16. uh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    doesnt anybody else find it a bit curious as to why C|Net News is reporting a story about a known piracy site? why the hell would joe blow give a shit about this? are the C|Net staffers admitting to being BT-warez-whor3z?

    in any regard, this is hardly news for nerds or stuff that matters.

  17. Re:Why do you keep mentioning SUPRnova damn it by johannesg · · Score: 5, Funny
    Just to clarify, the site he is talking about is this one. What he is trying to say is this: if the bad guys ever find out about it, they might try to do something stupid and most likely illegal such as performing a DDOS. And we really don't want it to go down, since it is a most excellent source for TV shows, movies, games, and music.

    I guess the first rule of www.suprnova.org is: don't talk about www.suprnova.org.

  18. Re:explain me ? by Hatta · · Score: 2, Funny

    The corporate world isn't trying to control the dissemination of information. They are protecting their profits.

    Same thing.

    It's not necessary for them to have symetric lines for most DSL customers as their downloading habits are very much skewed towards the download bandwidth. It's also cheaper for them to provide aDSL service then it is to provide sDSL. Upload bandwidth I beleive is more expensive, bit for bit, then the download.

    How about cable? There's no technical reason for asymmetric cable connections, yet they all want an arm and a leg and your first born son to get anything. Maybe upload bandwith costs them more, but I can't believe it's at all proportionate. There has to be some motivation for them so harshly discouraging uploads.

    Dynamic IP addresses are used for several reasons. The first is that it discourages customers from running servers. It doesn't eliminate it, but it makes it more of an inconvienence.

    So then, they are trying to control the dissemination of information. Big of you to admit it.

    Those that truly need static addresses typically are willing to pay a premium for it. Business customers for instance.

    See that's the thing, they only want the wealthy or incorporated to have real internet access. By keeping the proles on dialup and addicted to tv, they maintain their control over the media, and thus the minds of the populace. This is one of the reasons the internet has not had the transforming effect on society we all expected bacy in 1993.

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  19. Re:Next-gen P2P? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I dunno, there seem to have been a lot of random "funny" moderations recently - maybe it's a new troll tactic? Do funny mods bypass meta-moderation or something?

  20. Re:That's fine by Badfysh · · Score: 3, Funny

    When carrying table legs always remember: 1. NEVER pretend it's a sawn off shotgun. 2. NEVER tell somebody in a pub you are going to kill them with a shotgun. 3. When confronted by armed police, PUT YOUR TABLE LEG DOWN. This is a good time to stop pretending you have a shotgun, or Darwinism may occur.

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  21. Re:Some possibilities to check out by jimand · · Score: 4, Funny

    I must be a long-time member. I don't think I've ever been able to respond to a "low slashdot ID" comment with "that's not low, you nube".

  22. Re:Some possibilities to check out by maelstrom · · Score: 1, Funny

    stfu n00b

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  23. Re:Some possibilities to check out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    (3) - It could be that the spammers have hijacked the bittorrent servers (as I understand, a lot of bittorrent hijacking has come from China. Perhaps not coincidentally, a lot of spammers use servers in China to host their activities.)


    Solution: Blackhole China.
  24. Re:Some possibilities to check out by Legion303 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Slashdot just ain't what it used to be (as you can tell by looking at my low slashdot ID number)."

    In my day, we had to walk uphill in the snow for 5 miles to drop our posts in the Slashdot suggestion box.

    Both ways.