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Robotic Science Network Watches Our Oceans

Roland Piquepaille writes "I bet most of you have never heard about Argo, an ambitious scientific project about the observation of our oceans. This project is endorsed by 18 countries and just reached a milestone: there are today more than 1,500 robotic floats reporting about salinity changes or predicting El Niño events, among other ones. This news release from the University of California at San Diego says that the Argo floats, which are autonomous ocean-traveling robots programmed to sink more than a mile below the ocean surface, are helping scientists all over the world to look at the future of our whole planet. And in 2007, when the deployment is completed, 3,000 underwater robots will help us to better understand the changes in our climate. You'll find more details, pictures and references in this overview."

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  1. Privacy Invasion! by bryan986 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can hear the screams now! Wait, no you cant.

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  2. Monitor our oceans? by Mirkon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Screw the oceans, make them WiMax repeaters and build a global wireless network.

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  3. Coming soon... by wcitechnologies · · Score: 4, Funny

    Awesome, looking forward to "Ghost In the Sea Shell"

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  4. Too Few? by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This seems like an awfully small number since 2/3 of the earth's surface is covered in water. I mean these robots will give us a start, but for more reliable data this number seems to need to be drastically increased. I wonder what their plans are for expansion. Or do they have some technique that can help extrapolate between the gaps. The ocean seems too complex and too unknown to cover with so few robots.

    1. Re:Too Few? by saider · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My guess is that while it may be less than ideal coverage, it is...
      1) Better than what they had before
      2) Cost effective.

      More probes may provide better results, but I think right now they are looking for the big picture. If they find something interesting from the data, they can then populate interesting areas with more probes.

      I wonder what the environmentalists think about more of the probe wreckages being spread all over the oceans.

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  5. Land based weather 'robots' by tonsofpcs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now if only we had as many Standards Based land based weather observatories/robots, this would make NOAA much more precise (it is already very acurate with its predictions, just a higher level of precision would be nice, rather than each 'site' covering a 50 mile radius (or more).

    1. Re:Land based weather 'robots' by arivanov · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Same can be said for probes in more interesting places.

      If the graph is to believed there are nearly zero probes in the circular current in the Southern Hemisphere roaring sixties, there also very few probes in the other major current systems - Gulfstream, along N and S America West Coast, Azora, etc. At the same time there are plenty of probes which are sitting in relatively silent regions like 30-40 latt in the middle of the Pacific (north and south).

      I hope they put the remaining 1500 into the major current systems as these are the places that determine the weather around the globe. It will be more expensive to maintain as you have to salvage them quite often and relocate to the beginning of the current, but hopefully the data collected will pay back for the excessive maintenance costs.

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  6. Hmmm... by anish1411 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is that bastard organisation that predicted that global warming would actually make the UK colder..

  7. argos animation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    if an early reader wouldnt mind mirroring the animation on the site , it does describe the project effectively , and shows how a network of 3000 buoys can cover the globe evenly. if at the expense of 26megs avi ...

    1. Re:argos animation by Narkov · · Score: 2, Informative
  8. W won't listen anyway by HanB · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Doesn't matter how much more data is collected, the point is already made: Our global industry is damaging the environment. And W is not going to do anything about it. Just the same reasoning that keeps M$ from doing anything structural about virusses.
    ``It seemed an annoyance at first, but later on we realized it is a great source of revenue, so why on earth would we change anything about it.''
    • First, they save themselves a shipload of money in preventing the problems.
    • Second, they are the guys that will clean up the mess afterwards, for proper rewarding of course.
    • They will even be called heroes and nobody will ever disagree with their methods.
    BTW the same filosophy applies to another ``global problem'': terrorism.

    We have to find a way of unmasking these criminals. They do have a name, the ``neo-conservatives.''

  9. Re:Uuh... by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think it just might be you that did not wach "The day after tomorrow" with its weather and saline bouys.

    I wish I *didn't* watch it . .. does that count? ;)

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  10. Argo floats.. or does it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Argo floats, which are [...] programmed to sink"

    Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

  11. Argo project home page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    See also Argo.net.

  12. Cool! Are they armed? by ccmay · · Score: 2, Funny
    Autonomous ocean-traveling robots! Cool!

    I hope they have some kind of weapon to kill the sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads...

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  13. Roland Piquepaille by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It has to be said. For reasons I cannot understand, the editors continue to allow roland to post links to his half assed summary of another story in order to generate traffic for his blog. It's horrible to think that we're all providing revenue for this person. Visit google's cache of his page here and don't click on any of the ads. Perhaps in the future, the editors should give a little thought before helping this guy out again.

  14. Some Better Links by OctaneZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another project I work on makes /.; go figure. Here are some better links.
    The US Global Data Center for the Argo project.

    The Woods Hole Oceanographic Inst. Argo page. This includes links to data profiles and other info.

    WHOI's realtime data grapher allows you to see where the floats are, where they have been, find a float in any region WHOI monitors, etc.

    Also check out the Argo Information Center and their Global Float Map. (The WHOI one tends to be faster if you are only interested in the Atlantic)

  15. Re:Sorry, not all of us want to end human civ by mc_barron · · Score: 2
    Completely off topic, but I'll bite...

    A plague upon BOTH of your houses! Two completely different parties that want the same thing: living peacefully and happily. Yet neither recognizes the good in the other, instead resorting to labeling the other as extreme.

    The reference to Gaia and animal skins speaks profoundly of the understanding you have of your opponent - rather, the lack of understanding or acceptance. There are some very good ideas on both sides of this fence - don't dismiss one just because it is unfamilar to you. The desire to drive "big engine" cars eludes me completely. Perhaps it is because I am comfortable with who I am and do not feel the need to attract attention or "respect" with large machinery. I highly doubt most people need to haul around enough stuff to justify owning a large vehicle. Hence the only other reason for owning such a large vehicle is for social purposes.

    Wanting to reduce our impact (or change on the planet as you call it) has never involved animal skin or worshiping some Gaia. It involves being responsible (something I hope resonates with ALL republicans since there is seems to be an emphasis on personal accountability within the party, which is a good thing), and being responsible to living responsibly. It is exceptionally greedy and immature of you to imagine the US can maintain our current consumption level of the worlds resources without serious repercussions.
    On a side note, here's a brain teaser for you: George Bush was convicted of at least 2 DWI's in his youth and had a somnewhat rough early adulthood. He is now a born again Christian, which is a good thing. BUT he supports the death penalty, essentially saying that others are not able to reform themselves as he has reformed. Hypocritical does not even begin to describe this mentality.

  16. Re:Uuh... by plcurechax · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it just might be you that did not wach "The day after tomorrow" with its weather and saline bouys.

    Unfortunately I did see it (and hence paid money towards the producers and screen writers). What I remember was that the guy next to me was complaining that the bouy id'ents were wrong for the Grand Banks and the "normal" Gulf Stream was moving backwards. Not to mention the physics problems with the rate of freezing mentioned (ending up at/below absolute zero in a few minutes).

    I've haven't seen a Argo bouy yet.

  17. WHAT?! by LilGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine how many jobs this could have provided for people! WHY GOD WHY!?

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