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12 Christmas Gifts Not To Buy Online

nsingapu writes "While online shopping is booming this Christmas, niche products like "two turtle doves" purchased on the Internet are becoming increasingly more expensive then their non e-tailed counterparts. PNC bank has updated their annual tongue-in-cheek economic analysis, based on the cost of goods and services purchased by the True Love in the holiday classic, "The Twelve Days of Christmas." The analysis compares the cost of traditional goods against their cost thoughout the past 20 years and against the price when purchased online. PNC concludes that most items are more expensive to buy over the Internet, primarily due to the cost of shipping, and that the abundance of cheaper labor in countries such as India and China has resulted in pressure on U.S. manufacturers to outsource."

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  1. Note to self by IamGarageGuy+2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The internet price of swans appears to be skyrocketing. Must remember to get all of my swan supplies from local swan merchant instead of Swans-R-Us.com.

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  2. Buying gifts?? by Fr4ncis · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm a nerd, I don't buy gifts at all you insensitive clod, I just receive the ones in my (rigorously) ThinkGeek wish list!

  3. Merry Mercantilism. by the+talented+rmg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Indeed, with the dollar *tanking* like it is, the cost of Christmas can be expected to take a sharp upturn even in terms of currencies like True Love and Monopoly Money.

    I'd be a lot more inclined to laugh if this weren't so serious. The financial security of our country is at serious risk given the astonishing rate of decline in the dollar since the election. With the Chinese selling off dollars like hotcakes, costs of toys made in the Orient, such as DVD players, PDAs, and iPods, will be just a little higher this year and the trend will only continue.

    I hope everyone can eek out a Merry Christmas this year. It may be your last in while. With the mercantilist economic policies of the Bush Administration only likely to continue and with confidence in US financial institutions at an all time low and dropping, everyone should just make sure this is a Christmas to remember. Next year, you may not be able to give your kids anything more than a hug and an yellow onion.

    Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.

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  4. Internet more expensive? by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The sad thing is that some people are going to read this tongue-in-cheek analysis and really think that the Internet is more expensive because of shipping. From an economic perspective, purchasing commodity items on the Internet is more efficient than slogging around from store to store to find the cheaper price. On the Internet, you have nearly infinite choices. I guess if you compare purchasing an item in Best Buy to purchasing an item on bestbuy.com, you might come to the conclusion that purchasing things in the store is cheaper because of shipping costs. But if you compare the cost of purchasing an item in Best Buy to the cheapest listed cost of buying the same item on pricegrabber.com, pricewatch.com or any of the other thousands of sites that show the cheapest price, provide coupons for purchasing on the Internet, etc... The Internet will win every time.

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  5. Time and transportation are free? by michaelmalak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Online shoping is attractive mostly because of the time that it saves. Another factor is transportation cost, which AAA calculates to be 56.2 cents per mile, which it appears PNC did not account for in its calculations. And from their cost breakdown, it doesn't look like AAA is even taking into account medical costs, which is why I personally try to minimize the number of miles I drive (fear of injury or death).

  6. That means... by mishmash · · Score: 3, Funny

    Somewhere online one can buy Swans and Milkmaids??

  7. Amazon.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Drumming Drummer (12 pack)

    Customers who bought this item also bought these items:
    Golden Rings (5-pack)
    Turtle Doves (2-pack)
    Pear Tree with Partridge

  8. Is it still... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...3 French hens, or has that been changed to 3 Freedom Hens?

  9. Here's one hint by scotay · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've found that bleached pigeons work just as well as doves. It's a good thing.

  10. Eight maids-a-milking by ndogg · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm not sure I even want to comment on this one. Let's just say that I could find this on the internet for way cheaper than even $41...

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  11. Nine Ladies Dancing by Aggrazel · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, these guys don't know where to shop. I can get a lot more than nine ladies dancing for only $19.95 per month on certain sites... and dancing's not all they do... heh heh.

  12. Re:Offshoring & Boycotting Chinese Products by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If you see a product that is "Made in China" or "Made in India", simply do not buy it.

    You are aware that China and India are two different countries, right? We're not talking about confusing Nauru or Tuvalu with Vanuatu -- you seem unable to distinguish between the two biggest countries in the world.

    Regarding the grandparent's point: I'm concerned about the dollar policy as well but it's worth keeping in mind that "China and India are stealing our jobs!!!!" and "The falling dollar is making imports too expensive! Our lifestyles will be destroyed!!!" are mutually incompatible manifestations of hysteria. You can't have imports and not have imports.

  13. Why People Buy Online by jgartin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I shop online it isn't necessarily because I can find a better price (although you usually can when shopping for computer parts). It's because whatever I want isn't availalbe locally.

  14. Re:"Core" Index? by jhobbs · · Score: 4, Informative

    Over the years the broadest swings have been in the swans which apparently are somewhat difficult to breed. Some years there are huge shortages other years gluts in availability. Excluding the swans from the core index allows for a more stable and truthful economic indicator that is not tied to supply-demand related swings in swan pricing.

  15. 9 ladies dancing by magarity · · Score: 3, Funny

    cheaper labor in countries such as India and China has resulted in pressure on U.S. manufacturers to outsource

    That's cool with me; 9 American girls bopping to synth-pop aren't nearly as hot as 9 Indian girls gyrating to their respective traditional music. And if the 9 Chinese girls are in those long form-fitting Chinese dresses with the slits up the side... whoa momma!

  16. India and China are one? ROFLMAO... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'll go one further: The Dali Lama, Tibet's spiritual leader, fled to India when the Chinese invaded and it was in India that he set up his government-in-exile. And China has invaded India in the past too.

    Sorry, but it's this sort of ignorance of the highest magnitude - not realising that China, the world's largest communist country, and India, the world's largest democracy, are two seperate countries - that has people who aren't American rolling their eyes and dismissing Americans as stupid. I mean, have you ever heard of anyone anywhere who assumes that the US and Cuba are the same country? Because that's the closest analogy I can come up with to thinking that China and India are one and the same.

    To the original poster who made this dumb assumption I have this advice: it's better to say nothing and have people think you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Oh, and read a book too every now and then. Believe me, right now people like you are giving your country a very bad name the world over.

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    1. Re:India and China are one? ROFLMAO... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, he just gave a list of reasons why you shouldn't trade with China, most prominently its occupation of Tibet and its poor treatment of the Tibetan people, then proceeded to say that those were reasons not to trade with China and India.

      That's like me making a list of reasons why you shouldn't buy, say, Cuban goods and then concluding that those are good reasons not to buy from Cuba or from the US.

      Now, if he had mentioned any reasons why trading with India was bad, such as the loss of tech jobs there (as if that's not the fault of greedy US employers rather than the fault of skilled Indian technicians), then perhaps you might have a point. But he didn't give a single such reason and just tarred India with the broad brush that he'd used to tar China with. And, as I've pointed out, India isn't China and it isn't guilty of brutalising Tibet or any of the other things that the AC did deign to mention, so mentioning India in the same breath as China was entirely inappropriate.

      Boy, I bet that the irony of you mentioning Indian worker and environment protections in the same week as the 20th anniversary of Union Carbide's Bhophal disaster, which it still hasn't cleaned up or properly compensated the victims of, just passes over your head.

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  17. The Canadian version by MadChicken · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Canadian version would be quite a bit cheaper, and not just due to the dollar.

    8 comic books
    7 packs of smokes
    6 packs of two-four
    5 golden touques
    4 pounds of back bacon
    3 french toasts
    2 turtlenecks
    and a beer... in a tree.

    Of course you will notice 12 - 10 are missing due to time constraints, but we know at least one of those should be donuts.

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  18. My experience with a Greek bookstore online by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I live in New Jersey. I ordered four books from Protoporia a Greek online bookstore. The four books I ordered only cost a total of 26.24 Euros, which compared to the price of books in America is decent. One of the books Thanos Vlekas(in Greek) only cost me an amazingly low price of 2.81 Euros, while the English translation of the same title cost $17.95 at Amazon. The problem is that shipping from Greece cost me 17.20 Euros and took 10 days. There is no alternative for Greek books though, there is no real Greek bookstore in the entire United States. Some stores in Astoria have a few Greek books but they are not bookstores, and it costs over $12 dollars alone to pay for tolls to drive there. All in all in this case though the shipping price is very high, there is no alternative, even driving to New York for books because of tolls would cost almost as much, something to keep in mind about online shipping, even driving out of your area can cost alot with tolls, gas, etc.

  19. Re:Google Cache by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Informative
    $600 for a 20gig ipod wouldn't sell in the US.. why does it in the UK?

    Simple: because people are prepared to pay that price. Products generally retail at the price that will bring the most profit, increased prices will reduce the volume, but increase the gross profit. There is a optimum point somewhere and it would appear that for many electronics devices, it is higher in the UK.

    There is also the factor that the UK price includes VAT (17%), while the US price does not include tax.

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  20. Re:Offshoring & Boycotting Chinese Products by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Umm, sure, but what business of yours is it what the Chinese or Indians do with their environment?


    Mainly it's our business because it's also our environment -- we do all live on the same planet, you know. Of course, this argument works both ways, and so it's a difficult argument for the US to make these days, given the Bush Administration's "fuck you" posture on Kyoto, global warming, mercury emissions, etc.

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  21. Geeky Christmas by Peaceful_Patriot · · Score: 3, Funny

    From Geek.com

    On the twelfth day of Geekmas my True Geek gave to me ...
    12 O'Reilly handbooks.
    11 cups of caffeine. 10 Help Desk persons screaming.
    9 Linux distributions.
    8 viral virii.
    7 routers routing.
    6 Geeks a coding.
    5 Handsprings!
    4 SDRAM chips.
    3 PS2s.
    2 Xboxes.
    and
    a real working Bluetooth device.

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  22. Re:Offshoring may our way out of Economic Ruin. by NoOneInParticular · · Score: 3, Insightful
    LOL! The dollar has quite a bit to go before American labour prices are comparable to Chinese and Indian. Think about an order, maybe two: 10 or 100 dollars for a single euro (given that Europe doesn't budge). Before such a thing happens, hell has indeed frozen over in the US on a scale in which the depression of the 30's will seem like a holiday in the sun.

    No, the falling dollar is a cheap trick to finance the national debt, at the risk of losing the dollar as the world currency. It's a risky bet, as a lost reputation will be ever so hard to regain.