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Doom Movie Update

WeAz writes "Dark Horizons has an update on the currently filming Doom Movie. The article sums up the history of the production thus far and also includes a cool tidbit that reveals 'a large number of sequences will be shot purely in "first-person" perspective of the leading character (Karl Urban).' Unfortunately, the article also reports that 'The monsters aren't from hell, but rather people mutated by some nasty super-virus although the monsters look very similar to those in the game.' Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."

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  1. super v irus? by zalas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What... did the producers look at R.E. and went wow, let's incorporate some ideas from that as well so that we have a bigger fanbase!

  2. Bring a barf bag... by IO+ERROR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...not because the movie will be bad, but because the first-person perspective is likely to upset your inner ear balance and cause you to feel queasy. Think Blair Witch Project.

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  3. No hell? by Eric(b0mb)Dennis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why the choice not to have the monsters we know and love from HELL, not another MSV (Mutated Super Virus).

    Are people afraid to mention the word HELL anymore? Jesus christ, Jesusland is taking over!

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    1. Re:No hell? by b0tman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, I think it's the Christians who have no problem with talking about Hell. I'm one of them, and I love Doom. It's the PC people we gotta' worry about. They are the ones sanitizing our society so that we can't say anything that might remotely offend somebody.

    2. Re:No hell? by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can you point out one time that a major Christian org has gotten upset about the use of Hell as a location in the past 25 years?

  4. Mars-set zombie flick by sonicattack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."

    It's already done, and called "Ghosts of Mars".

    And it came the year before "28 days later".

  5. Not another virus! by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The virus plotline is so played out these days. I don't understand why Hollywood feels the need to change an element like monsters coming from Hell to monsters being mutated by a virus. Has Hell somehow become taboo? For the Dawn of the Dead remake, I was worried that they would change the whole zombies from hell concept because the original tagline was "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth." Fortunately, they left it intact. It's disappointing that a game so based off of demons from Hell is being changed over into the old virus mutation thing. It's already so overused.

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    1. Re:Not another virus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um, with Dawn of the Dead, the zombies were never from hell. They were (in the original release) dead people brought back to life by strange radiation which emanated from a returned space probe. Anybody who died during the time of the radiation became a zombie (even if not bitten by one).

      In the recent remake, they indeed changed the zombie contagion to some form of biological disease - unexplained, but assumed to be viral.

      The reason for using a virus as the MacGuffin of most modern movies, is because this has become the easiest explanation for most people in today's society. We are moving away from superstitions, but viruses and plagues are still a subject of terror for people world-wide.

      As for why they don't use supernatural reasons for things like this - just take a look at the majority of movies that try that. Inevitably, they are poorly received. The section of the public that believes in supernatural/superstitious things will accept either explanation in a movie - but those who are slightly more modern/rational will be turned off by this sort of thing. They prefer psuedo-science over psuedo-fantasy.

  6. Re:On Mars by EpsCylonB · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, according to bluesnews its just a regular old military scientific complex somewhere on earth.

    It's fairly obvious that whoever put up the money wants the film to have the widest possible appeal in america, and that means they don't want to risk offending middle america with the kind of religous imagery used in the games.

    It might still turn out to be a decent film, it won't be Doom though.

  7. Re:What plot? by EpsCylonB · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The first Doom was great, unlike its third incarnation there was a lot of variation in the levels. One level might be totally enclosed whilst the next offers you views of the martian landscape.

    Admittedly after the basic set up of being on mars in a base after a gateway to hell has opened, the plot is fairly thin from there on. Which makes it even more amazing that the makers of this film have done away with pretty much the only plot elements Doom has.

  8. Re:What plot? by Osty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What plot? From what I can recall the plot went something like "Demons. Bad. Kill them all."...

    As simplistic as the plot is, they've still managed to fuck it up. Also, your plot is a little thin. It's more like, "You, Space Marine. Them, Demons from Hell. On Mars. Kill them all." And yet, the movie does not have space marines, demons, hellspawn, or Mars. It may not be the strongest of plots, but it's what makes Doom recognizable. Without at least space marines and hellspawn, you don't have a Doom movie.

    What's next? Will there be a Halo movie with no Master Chief, no Covenant, and no Halo? How about a Metroid movie with no Samus Aran and no Metroid, or a Half-Life movie with no Gordon Freeman, no G-Man, and no aliens from Xen?

  9. Why bother? by FiReaNGeL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It isn't on Mars.
    Monsters aren't from Hell.
    SWAT instead of space marines.
    Super-virus?

    Can you REALLY call this DOOM? Why do they bother? Doom fans are gonna be angry, and for the rest, the movie could have been called Resident Evil IIV : It gets crappier anyway.

  10. Things to do by cubicledrone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For any Hollywood executive:

    1) Acquire creative control
    2) Change everything except the name
    3) Profit!

    Hollywood, like all business, is only interested in brands, not products. Therefore it is only the title that matters, not the plot.
    Happens with nearly every adaptation of any existing book/comic book/game into a movie.

    Creative people should have creative control. Irrefutable example of success: The Incredibles

    Business people should not have creative control. Irrefutable example of total failure: Lion King 1 1/2

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    1. Re:Things to do by Queer+Boy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I totally disagree. Fight Club was MARKETED out of the theatre. They marketed the movie as a completely different idea than what the movie was actually about. None of the previews actually tell you anything about the movie except that there's a fight club and you don't talk about it. That is NOT what the movie was about.

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  11. Re:On Mars by spectre_240sx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Personally, I have very little interest in this as a "doom" movie. If it doesn't have to do with devils and other creatures from hell then it's NOT DOOM!

  12. The "Religious Right" can't win can they? by Katravax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To the other posts blaming this on the "Religious Right:" If they talk about Hell, you complain. If someone else REMOVES the word "Hell", you complain. Which is it? They're talking about Hell too much, or not enough?

    Besides, the "Religous Right" is a myth. They're religious alright, but they're not Christian, and they're not conservative. They would do good to read what the Bible has to say about religion.

  13. Re:What plot? by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Um, we're talking about Doom, right? What plot? From what I can recall the plot went something like "Demons. Bad. Kill them all."...

    That's where the original game started, but if you read the intro text, and the text and the various ends of stages you would have realised there was plot. That plot was further expanded upon in Doom3.

    Let's be realistic here, you could easily take the plot that you discover on PDAs and from talking to people in Doom3 and create a film where only the final third of the film has anyone running around killing demons. Think about it:

    We can start with the marine arriving on base and hearing the rumpours about weird things and the "dig site", spend plenty of time slowly revealing the teleporters, and the fact that there seems to be something/someplace in between leaving one teleporter and arriving at another. Add to that lots of creepy moments wandering around the base hearing voices occasionally, and incidents with marines and workers (ie teleporter test subjects) going insane, and attacking people etc. and you could easily fill and hour with nary a hell gate opened. That leaves you a nice 30 minutes of of hectic "demons everywhere" conclusion.

    Doom could be made into a very good film. It won't be made into a very good film, but that's hardly the game's fault.

    Jedidiah.

  14. demographically targeted tripe by Magickcat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."

    Funny, it sounds like a market share placed, demographically targeted pile of cliched froth from where I'm siting.

    To think that Phillip K Dick never made a cent on his books and died poor before recieving a cent on Bladerunner - and this thin "plot" from a video game makes it to the movies.

    The boys at ID will be glad for the money, but it doesn't sound like great sci-fi, let alone art.

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  15. Re:Comment from the writer of the Czech article by Rams�s+Morales · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The game, with upside-down crosses and 666 symbols has been successful, three times. Why wouldn't the movie be?

    Political correctness is making this world a disaster.

  16. You don't want more of this? by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    THEN DON'T GO SEE IT!

    Don't rent it, either. Wait until it's can be seen someplace where your viewing of it does no contribute any extra to it's coffers. Encourage others to give it a miss.

    I lost track long ago of the number of times I have heard people say, "It's going to suck! I *have* to see it!" And then the same people wonder wny most movies blow white hot chunks.

    If you must have the needs and character of a three year old, at least have some patience (is it *that* emotionally difficult to avoid seeing a suckfest?) and view it in a way that does not encourage Hollywood to make any more.

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  17. Point your finger in the right direction by locnar42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone keeps blaming the *insert religious group here* for making the plot changes so the monsters aren't from Hell. The problem with that though is that religious people are the only ones who believe in Hell. It's not their fault. I blame the non-religious people that don't believe in Hell. The studio is trying to make the movie more believable to these people. Super virus is believable to everybody. Hell demons are only for the religious. Screw all you non-religious people. Here's my finger.

  18. We got warned back in August (sort of) by NG+Resonance · · Score: 2, Insightful

    http://general.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/7478/

    Todd Hollenshead: We didn't tie the script to the specific story in the game. There are lots of similarities, but there are many things that are different in a way that's not inconsistent with what we've done in the games. I believe that fans will find the story in the movie fresh and exciting, but still very much DOOM.

    Might these be the differences he mentioned?

  19. Hollywood has the right idea! by Mitleid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People, people! There is a reason that they've changed so much about the new DOOM movie, and that reason is the fact that DOOM was already made into a movie. They gotta look orignal now, don't they?

    All sarcasm aside, this movie is going to totally blow. DOOM is the type of intellectual property that I think can only be made into a movie ONE WAY, and this way sure as hell ain't it. The best us die-hard DOOM fans can do now is sit back and watch it crash and burn horribly, never to be spoken of again. As far as I'm concerned, they might as well have given it to someone who could at least butcher it in style like Uwe Boll, but he was probably busily turning another videogame liscence into pure tripe.

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  20. Re:How else could it get a PG13 rating? by Sir+Foxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Spawn got a PG-13 rating and it still included Hell. Movie still sucked but it still included Hell.

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  21. Re:On Mars by KanSer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, thank you very much for giving us Resident Evil In Space instead of what could have been a good movie.

    Fuck hollywood sucks.

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  22. Re:First Person Movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Consider the Jeeves and Wooster stories by Wodehouse. Almost the only reason they work at all is because they are first person narratives.

  23. Re:On Mars by Skrybe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exactly! Why bother paying for the license when they're not really making use of it? It could be any one of a dozen cookie cutter sci-fi/action movies. If they don't keep the core (demons from hell invading Mars) then it just ain't Doom.

    I'd assume the marketing suits figure all the "geeks" will want to go and see it because of the name alone. Be interesting to see if they change it too much whether it'll have the opposite effect and all the Doom fans will boycott the movie...

  24. Guaranteed slashdotting by emilng · · Score: 2, Insightful


    If you want to get your site slashdotted, just make a machinima adaptation of the Doom movie using the Doom 3 engine.

  25. Re:On Mars by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "guy shoots stuff," would it be that much better with satanic imagery?

    Yes it would! For the shooting to be maximally enjoyable, it must be guilt-free. The viewer can be given no room to imagine that the targets of the shooting don't completely deserve to absorb those rapid-fire napalm rockets.

    Only the very evilist of enemies can deserve such unmerciful shootage. The only two known creatures of this type are Satanists and Nazis (and its no coincidence that idsoftware uses them both)

  26. Re:On Mars by sharok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hang on there :

    - Tomb Raider had Angelina, and that is enough to reinforce credibility to the max

    - Mortal Kombat had lots of fighting and no story, and that's basically what the game was about, so good points there too

    Whereas Doom - The Movie is NOT going to have :
    - demons
    - dying souls
    - upside-down crosses
    - tortured victims nailed to a cross
    - pentagrams
    - portal to Hell
    - anything interesting

    Might as well put in a bunch of furry rabbits carrying egg baskets for all I care. If we're supposed to see a bunch of enraged human mutants, then I say Dawn of the Dead is all we need.