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Going, Going, Gone: IBM Sells PC Group To Lenovo

It was rumored before, but now, as Rick Zeman writes, "It's official: According to news.com, IBM has sold their PC business in a complex arrangement where, 'under the deal, IBM will keep an 18.9 percent stake in Levono. Lenovo will pay $1.25 billion for the IBM PC unit and assume debt, which will bring the total cost to $1.75 billion. Lenovo will pay roughtly $650 million in cash and $600 million in securities.' Plus, Lenovo will be able to use the IBM and Think names for 5 years."

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  1. Get a Gateway by omarius · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's a damn expensive IBM PC unit. The clones are a lot cheaper, people.

    1. Re:Get a Gateway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Uh, what? They didn't buy a PC, they bought a whole PC Business.
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    2. Re:Get a Gateway by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Informative
      Let's look again.

      2. 2. They dont have a "middle" size powerbook. They go from tiny 12 to large 15+. Where is the 14 ?

      The 15 is the middle size. Apple also sells a lunch tray version. Don't believe me? Walk into the cafeteria at Apple some time and you'll see what I mean. 17 inches of usable food tray space. :-D

      3. What the hell is the deal with the speakers being next to the keyboard ?

      Simple. It gives you bass response that doesn't suck. Of course, some might suggest moving the speakers to the screen, but it turns out that clear speakers are neither. :-D

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    3. Re:Get a Gateway by Trackster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      [rant] I agree. I've read most of the posts on this story and most are ignorant accusations that Lenovo will bring down the quality of IBM products....because OMG! they're a CHINESE company.

      Yet, if most of these posters took a look under and inside their laptops and even PCs (even the ones with "IBM" stamped on them) they'll likely find big fat "Made in China" stickers.

      Folks, China is already the "factory of the world" and for far more than just toys and cloths. Update your mental databases. It's no longer 1980. Toys, apliances, electronics, PCs, car parts, partially assembled automotive units (i.e. suspension) and a host of things you use are made in China and will increasingly be so. In fact, it won't be long (if not already) before many of the cars you drive are entirely built there.

      Being that most people who rant about Chinese quality tend to be 'Merkuns it's rather ironic considering the track record of U.S. manufacturing quality (particularly large corporations). Even Korea's Hyundai has surpassed the big 3 automakers in quality. Remember Hyundai? [/rant]

  2. Apex buys Sony next? by Fubar411 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, hard to think the IBM Thinkpad I'm typing on now will be made by the Wal-Mart of computer manufacturers. The FA mentions that Lenovo doesn't spend much on R&D, doubtful they would make drives that survive the 6' fall IBMs do. In my circles, IBM laptops are known as "expensive", "tought", and "secure". Especially since many of them come with BIOS locked biometrics. Sad to see this happen, but I guess the PC market is going commododity.

  3. Re:lenovoepad? by SnowZero · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm banking on "Thoughtpad". They can use it after the 5 years is up on using the Think brand, and it carries a convenient past tense.

    Will miss not having a T1000 eventually...

  4. Re:Quality by liangzai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Try http://www.lenovogrp.com/ (or http://www.lenovo.cn/ if you know Chinese). I think Thinkpad and other IBM gadgets will decrease as much in quality under Lenovo as Volvo has decreased in quality under Ford's oppressive measures (or Saab has under GM's). It's just a transaction of money, estate and control, the quality will depend on wise management, regardless where the production is.

  5. Freedom from MS by bstadil · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The main thing IBM is getting is freedom from Microsoft. As long as they had the PC line they couldn't totally piss off MS as they could raise the price on Windows to the Normal level. (MS have done this once)

    This would give them a $50-75 cost disadvantage versus everyone else. Now they can support Linux 100% and leverage the Power / grid architecture into other areas. Incl. making reference designs available to OEMs

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    1. Re:Freedom from MS by T-Ranger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is a question of debate, and perspective. MSFT has a higher market cap then does IBM. But for virtually any other business metric, IBM is on top. More revenue, more profit, more employees, more locations. Bigger IP porfolio. Far, far, more lines of products.

      In the desktop PC world, Microsoft may be able to push around anyone, including IBM. Anywhere else, IBM is king. This whole sale is due to the very low margins on desktop PCs, I read somewhere it only brought in about $75mil/year in profits -- far to little for IBM to bother with. If IBM starts a serious Linux push -- they already have the technology in place, just marketing time now (.. the same OS, on your departmental server to your mainframe, backed by IBM...) then they would undoubtably piss of Microsoft. And that very slim margin could evaporate overnight.

  6. Re:Thinkpads by Cobalt+Jacket · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a ThinkPad T40p. One day, I dumped a whole glass of water on it. The ThinkPad kept running. I turned it off and removed the battery and disassembled it to dry it out. That's when I realized that the ThinkPad had designed-in channels for liquid to flow. It avoids any of the sensitive parts. I just used some paper towels to dab out the water, and let the keyboard dry. Powered it on and it worked like a champ.

  7. The IBM game by clem.dickey · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Merges divisions A and B to create "synergy."
    2. Split the AB divison to improve "focus."
    3. Repeat steps 1 through 3.

  8. Re:Sucks! by 808140 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't believe this crap got modded insightful. It's quite clear that Alomex has no personal experience whatsoever with Lenovo. Lenovo (Legend, Lianxiang) is a very high quality company, that has managed to essentially monopolize much of Asia's laptop and desktop PC market for quite sometime now.

    The reason you don't know much about them if you live outside of the greater China area is not because they're of poor quality, it's because the guy who runs the company has his head screwed on straight. I saw a very interesting interview with him when I was in Hong Kong a few months ago, where he was asked if he was going to take his products global. He said that it was definitely on his mind, but that he wanted to develop a strong lead in China, which he perceives as the 21st century's major market, before moving into Europe and the US.

    Lenovo laptops are of high quality make and are priced very competitively. They're very widely regarded here (Shanghai) and my personal experience with them is that they're put together very well, better than say, Sony laptops.

    The Chairman Mao dig is just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard. All it does is demonstrate that Alomex has never been to China and knows diddly squat about it (and if that's not the case, then he's a troll, plain and simple.) Chairman Mao has essentially no credibility in China (which isn't surprising at all) and while the CCP may continue to give him face in certain respects (it's not considered polite to speak ill of the dead here) any marketing rep worth his snuff knows that it's absolute suicide to try to connect your product with Mao and come out on top. The common people (especially in the demographic that buys computers) were mostly pretty badly burnt by the Cultural revolution and as that wasn't very long ago it remains fresh in people's minds.

    China is, at this point, anything but communist. Anyone that makes this accusation is just showing himself to be a bubbling moron.

    Lenovo, in particular, is not a state owned company (there are very few of these anymore, and the Chinese government is dumping them/privatizing them as quickly as they possibly can), it's profitable, successful, and international.

    With their local connections, they will do well. I own a Thinkpad X40 and I personally am not at all concerned that quality will drop. Thinkpads are expensive machines, and if Lenovo keeps them at their current price, they'll be able to make an absolute crapload of money without dropping the quality at all, based on their current offerings.

    This China trolling from desperate Americans worried about losing their economic and technological dominance in the near future needs to stop. I'm American, and let me tell you, no amount of whining is going to stop the PRC. The sleeping dragon is waking and the world, as Napoleon predicted, is trembling.