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KDE 3.3.2 Released

Posted by timothy on from the maintain-low-tones dept.

MROD writes "The KDE Project has announced the release of KDE 3.3.2 with what looks like lots of fixes for the HTML engine and kmail. So, it looks like the Sun SPARC machines at work will be chewing on the source for the next week or so to get a running version."

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  1. Re:Did they ever fix that bug.... by Spoing · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Just want to know how much longer until I can get a fully working win32 binary release so I can drop explorer.exe but keep my win32 apps (such as virtual dub).

    I don't know what Windows has to do with KDE, though Virtual Dub works fine under Wine. Also, if you need .Net (CLR) support, the folks working on the Gnome project are integrating Mono.

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  2. VAX 782 trivia by bm17 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have heard that the Vax 782 was designed so that the VMS engineers could still build the entire OS in under a day. The 782 was basically a dual processor VAX-11/780. I don't know how true it is, but it was a good story.

  3. Re:Damnit by dn15 · · Score: 2, Funny
    I just upgraded for craps sakes.
    That's nothing, I just finished compiling the previous release on Gentoo. :P
  4. Konqueror: the file and internet browser by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wish that the KDE team supplied different programs for file browsing and internet browsing. Modularity/specialization is the answer to produce good software and it is a shame that this lesson is being forgotten. The KDE team is taking konqueror (among others) in the opposite direction, which is a shame, really.

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    1. Re:Konqueror: the file and internet browser by m50d · · Score: 3, Informative

      I disagree with you there. The KDE team are very much into modularity; what they are doing is making their applications modular. Konqueror is mostly a shell for khtml and their file rendering code. Everything's in kparts. Kontact works similarly. I think this is a great way to do things, because it means true frontend/backend separation - a frontend is just a shell for kparts, a backend is just a kpart, and both are interchangeable with others.

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    2. Re:Konqueror: the file and internet browser by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 2, Insightful

      KDE and it's applications can be very modular but konqueror isn't one example of it. It is an application which is written to serve multiple purposes in a non-modular way, using KDE widgets. It isn't at all like Kontact, where it uses existing applications (Kmail, KNode, KOrganizer, etc etc etc...) as it's components.

      If someone wants to use only a mail client, it can ditch Kontact and use only KMail. If someone wants a newsreader but doesn't want all the clutter, then use KNode. What do I have to ditch in Konqueror to have a simple file manager that doesn't need to handle HTML rendering, cookies, java applets, RSS feeds, CSS, etc.. ? Nothing. It isn't possible.

      I agree that KDE is modular but unfortunately that modularity is missing in konqueror and IMHO, being the KDE app that I and others use the most, it is hurting a bit.

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    3. Re:Konqueror: the file and internet browser by Mornelithe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No. Konqueror is just the shell. khtml supports HTML rendering, cookies, Java applets, CSS and so on. When you use Konqueror as a web browser, it's just a wrapper with a toolbar around khtml. Similarly, when you're browsing your local disk, Konqueror is just a shell for the KDE file browsing part (kfmclient?).

      In fact, if and whenever the Gecko kpart gets approved for inclusion into the standard KDE distribution, it's quite likely that you'll be able to compile KDE without khtml at all. Then you'll have Gecko embedded in Konqueror for browsing. It may even be possible to compile KDE without khtml now, although I can't guarantee it.

      When you load up Konqueror, pretty much all the functionality it has is a menu, toolbars, tabs, and split panes. Then, if you load a web site, it loads up khtml. If you open your local filesystem, it loads up that kpart. If you open a pdf, it can open up an embedded pdf viewer part and display it. Any file that can be viewed in a kpart can be viewed embedded in Konqueror. It is modular like Kontact. Konqueror did it first.

      The fact that you and many other people don't even realize that Konqueror is modular like it is speaks a lot to how well it's done. Konqueror's just a bunch of parts that fit together, but it provides you with a pretty seamless experience like a monolithic program would. It's quite an accomplishment.

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