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Green Energy Almost Cost-Competitive with Fossil Fuels
js7a writes "As reported in the Houston Chronicle, the sharply rising cost of natural gas and other fossil fuels has caused the cost of renewable energy to finally reach the price of nonrenewables. However, wind still has some catching up to do: 'a 10 percent wind- and 90 percent water-generated mix is about $9 per month less expensive than the 100 percent wind plan.' As more wind generation and grid transmission capacity is built, wind will eventually become more competitive than hydroelectric, but hydro and other sources will be required to balance grid demand in calm areas. Slashdot has been following this trend."
I've lost count of how many greenies I've driven insane by telling them that letting people use all the oil they can get their hands on is a good thing, in that it will drive people to use alternatives sooner due to supply/demand curves.
And, as usual, sane people win out against the insane, again.
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
What if we incinerate lawyers? They're more or less a renewable energy source, the amount of methane they produce is roughly equivalent to a cow, and methane is a proven gas for creating electricity.
Plus it's like killing two birds with one stone.
As to being unsightly, that's very subjective.
Sorry, I just don't see how hundreds upon hundreds of spinning blades, thrashing though the flesh of golden eagles, kestrels, hawks, etc. could possibly be "beautiful". On the other hand, you might find Yucca Mountain or a waste treatment facility beautiful, so, yeah... I guess it is subjective.
On your other point, you are wrong, most of the objections have *not* been dealt with. Thanks for not quoting an OBJECTIVE source to back up your statement.
The ones that survive will evolve to be smarter. And just for your info, kitty cats kill more birds each day then any wind farm can in a year.
Due entirly to the fact that there are very few wind farms. Now birds killed per cat vs birds killed per wind mill per year is a better sat, i'm sure cats don't kill 364 birds each, each year.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Oh stop it with your nonsense. Clinton nor Kerry would do anything beyond what has already been done. What a douche..
What is your penile percentile?
Where does the cost of pollution fit in your supply/demand curves?
You want my honest opinion on that?
Presently, from my perspective, pollution isn't a problem. I'm saying *right now*. The only things I've ever been given by greenies are predictions of my death which read surprisingly similar to what's in Revelations. Well, I'm not only still alive, but I feel comfortable and things look bright and happy outside.
Now, if you want to predict I'm going to be choking to death, that's fine. However, greenies have predicted I'd be doing that in 30 years, 30 years ago. So I hope you'll forgive me if I refuse to trust your predictions for another 30.
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
But it's unsightly
Nonsense. I've seen utility wind turbines. I've stopped to take pictures of them. I find them quite beautiful, and even somewhat hypnotic.
There is a very nice-looking wind farm in Madison County, NY, that can be seen for about ten miles in either direction along U.S. route 20. If you have a chance to be passing through that area, you should see for yourself how beautiful they really are.
www.wavefront-av.com
I say we just switch over and use nature's way of determining importance, natural selection. Unfortunately, humans are so far above everything else, we can wipe out entire ecosystems in a blink of nature's eye. So nature's way has failed us.
I think all we have that we can trust is our own values, for better or for worse.
Or at least it would be, if the loathesome alcoholic murderer Ted Kennedy and his hypocritical limousine liberal friends would let the windmills be built where they actually had a chance at being economically viable.
-ccm
Too much Law; not enough Order.