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More on Apple/Motorola Joint Cell Phone Venture

1+(smarterThanYou) writes "Forbes.com has an article with updates on the previous Slashdot story on the Motorola/Apple iTunes compatible mobile phone. 'Apple Computer and Motorola could soon show us the mobile phone they are developing to play music purchased from Apple's iTunes online music store. 'We've said we have something coming on this in the first half of 2005 and we're definitely on schedule for that. Hopefully you'll be able to see more about it soon,' says Eddy Cue, vice president in charge of applications at Apple.'" Theories about this device showing up at the next MacWorld Expo abound.

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  1. Already in bed? by sweetaction · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/jul/17isync.h tml Cingular and Apple are already buddies. With Moto's exclusive offering of the new RAZR phone with Cingular, perhaps are budding relationship will truly blossom with an iPhone to tie it all together.

    Go Apple.

  2. Re:Flash-based iPod actually a phone? by PabloJones · · Score: 5, Informative

    I believe that Steve has specifically said in the past that Apple would not be making a cell phone anytime in the near future.

    But maybe he's had a change of heart. Afterall, if Apple came out with a phone, people would be drooling over it... stylish and easy to use, plus iTunes support. Who knows.

  3. Re:One feature I hope for. by austad · · Score: 2, Informative

    Then buy your phone from somewhere like MobileBee Only the carrier branded phones are crippled, the rest are wide open as the manufacturer intended.

    I picked up a K700i a few months ago there, and it's nice that I can use all of the features on it. You will pay quite a bit more for the phone though, but if you use your phone as much as I do, it's worth it. Wireless bluetooth tether to a laptop for net access is a lifesave sometimes.

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  4. Re:Motorola Apple Relations Improving? by JohnsonWax · · Score: 2, Informative

    Codewarrior 7 ran on OS X. Codewarrior was bought by Motorola, but whereas Codewarrior saved Apples bacon back during the the 68k to PPC transition, they were late to the game for OS X and simply couldn't keep pace with the excellent tools that came over with NeXT.

    Codewarrior positioned itself for cross-platform development instead, which is what interested Motorola, but wasn't compatible with Apple's focus on superior APIs.

    Apple didn't kill Codewarrior as much as Codewarrior chased different markets.

    Mots influence on the G4 problem was refusing to allow IBM to fab G4s or to improve their processes, which really left Apple in a bind. After all, G4s still run on a 167MHz bus, which is a disaster for a modern desktop CPU.

  5. iTunes on phone does not mean iPod-Phone! RTFA by johnpaul191 · · Score: 5, Informative
    the article says the phone is NOT AN IPOD. we knew Apple made a version of Quicktime for cellphones. this makes it sound like the phone will just use Apple software to playback some MP3/AAC songs on your phone. a dozen songs requires very little flash memory. i would guess the phone would be able to play songs bought at iTMS. the fact that the article mentions putting songs on a phone via bluetooth/cable and how that would bypass the carrier, i guess that means we will not see iTMS shopping via cell phone.

    maybe the rumors are way off and this is what the flash iPod is. the Moto V710 phone has a removable memory card you can put MP3 files on and play them as ringtones, or listen to them on the speakerphone. i guess headphones or a carkit would be possible too? who knows. you have to read the article knowing some are quotes from Apple and Moto and some is filler/speculation by Forbes. not to diss them, but it's possible they don't totally know and are off the mark with their speculation.

    and i quote:
    At the event, Jobs took pains to point out that the phone would not compete with Apple's popular iPod music player, but should viewed as an iPod accessory. "Wouldn't it be great if you could take a dozen of your favorite songs with you" on a cell phone, Jobs said at the time.

    The companies said they plan to release a phone that will connect locally to computers unning Microsoft's Windows as well as Apple's Macintosh computers using a cable or a Bluetooth wireless connection.
  6. Re:One feature I hope for. by adrew · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have a Sony Ericsson T610 camera phone with T-Mobile service and a D-Link Bluetooth dongle. I can transfer whatever I want (MIDI ringtones, pictures, wallpaper, whatever) to and from the phone for free. Of course, I get charged if I take a picture and beam it to someone else through T-Mobile--but it's just as easy to move it to my Mac and email it.

    Apple includes a very good Bluetooth utility for browsing and transferring files on the phone. And iSync automatically syncs my address book with the contacts in the phone. Awesome.

  7. Re:Motorola Apple Relations Improving? by goMac2500 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If there is no OS X version of CodeWarrior, what is this, and why does Apple use Codewarrior as a benchmark for speed against XCode (with Apple even admitting that Codewarrior is still faster)? And yes, Motorola created CodeWarrior. Metrowerks might even still be owned by them.

  8. Re:Flash-based iPod actually a phone? by RevAaron · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are already two cell phones with 4 GB hard drives. I can't recall which models they were, but they are totally Japan-only deals. Check on engadget, that's where I've seen the stories.

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  9. Re:Macintosh 1 button mouse...now the 1 button pho by Go_Ask_Alex · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nokia beat Apple with a rotary cell phone, it's their Nokia 7280 (http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,62356,00.html).

  10. Re:One feature I hope for. by mr+i+want+to+go+home · · Score: 2, Informative
    If you have the bluetooth icon in the menubar, simply click on that and choose "Browse Device".

    If you don't have that turned on, you can in the bluetooth preference panel. It's not the finder by any means, but still is quite useful.

  11. Re:One feature I hope for. by Refrag · · Score: 2, Informative
    Every phone that I could use in my area is hobbled by SOB carriers who view BT as headset only, and charge for transfer of photos, ringtones and everything else.
    You've got to be kidding! I have a T616 and Cingular and I use Bluetooth for transferring pictures from my phone to my Mac, MIDI files from my Mac to my phone, and synchronizing Address Book and iCal information between the two all of the time.

    And I did all of that long before I got a Bluetooth headset.

    How could the carrier even begin to charge for stuff like that?
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  12. Re:iPhone, uPhone we all phone for iphone... by sagefire.org · · Score: 2, Informative
    If you really want Moof, follow the link below.

    http://www.sagefire.org/index.php/2004/11/07/macos _classic_sound_pack_v1_4

    Clink-Klank, Quack, and Boing are there too.

  13. Re:Macintosh 1 button mouse...now the 1 button pho by fermion · · Score: 2, Informative
    It is a design decision. A single button mouse is fine if the UI is carefully designed to to use the simplest interface. With a Mac I never miss the second button as it is seldom the best way to execute a command. On a PC a second button is needded as the best way to access many features.

    One can also see this with keyboards. Many PC ship with 10 or more extra keys to execute specilized commands. While this may be useful for a small subset, it annoys me that the extra keys make the keyboard bigger than it has to be and it causes confusion. For instance, on my compaq laptop there is a row a ancillary buttons across the top. The most important button, the start up button, is just one these buttons, barely differentiated. Everytime I want to turn on the machine I must look for the button. Time wasted because someone wanted to look technologically advanced by including lots of buttons.

    The phone I want from apple has the structure of iPod mini, but much smaller. No keyboard, no speaker, no mic. Bluetooth to a headset. Scrollwheel selects person to call. Sync to adress book and datebook. If the networks would get full caller ID, like the bells, numbers could be stored with names. In fact I have often wondered how hard it would be add phone capability to the mini, and, of course, bluetooth.

    The keyboard on a phone is useful for texting, but a popup keyboard and the scrollwheel could be just as useful, expecially with predictive technology and a phrase bank. I will never buy a phone in which the data cannot be gathered from my laptop. The current cellphone is evolved from 70's technology. It is time for something different.

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  14. Re:Flash-based iPod actually a phone? by nelsonal · · Score: 3, Informative

    Free to the consumer, but not to the cellular phone company. Nokia, Motorola, and Ericsson could not build phones that are that filled with expensive components for carrier prices. The average global cell phone goes for ~$150, and that includes a ton of basic phones for pre paid plans. Check the price of a phone without a service plan (say to replace a damaged or lost phone). The average subsidy is probably $150 now. Of course there is no free lunch, you pay for the phone over the life of your contract.
    An iPod cell phone would be good for carriers (exclusivity would help sign up customers), and good for Apple, half the cost is not paid directly by the consumer so you will sell considerably more.

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  15. Re:iPhone, uPhone we all phone for iphone... by JHromadka · · Score: 3, Informative

    It refers to Steve Lillywhite producing their 1st, 2nd, 3rd and fourteenth albums.

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  16. Re:One feature I hope for. by adrew · · Score: 2, Informative

    All the Bluetooth stuff is in Applications --> Utilities. The one you want is Bluetooth File Exchange. Don't be prepared for blistering speed--I get 7 KB/sec...