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Mozilla 1.7.5 Released
shokk writes "Mozilla 1.7.5 is out for all platforms. See the changelog for more details. Quite a few bug fixes are in this. A number of the bugs are Firefox/Mozilla specific, so you can expect that these will be avilable in the upcoming Firefox 1.1 Deer Park (that's good browser!) release. Is the Mozilla suite no longer at the forefront of browser technology, long surpassed by Firefox and Thunderbird? Will we ever see a Mozilla suite composed of Firefox and Thunderbird to keep it all simple? What are your reasons for running the old standby suite over the Firefox/Thunderbird combo?"
Nearly all of the 1.7.5 Mozilla Suite fixes are in Firefox 1.0. Firefox 1.0's code is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0. This is a small upgrade for Mozilla 1.7 to reach Firefox 1.0 parity. Firefox v1.1 will be based on Mozilla 1.8 (currently at 1.8 alpha 5), and Mozilla 1.8 should be released first. I wouldn't say either one is ahead in terms of technology, since they share so much.
Whether we'll one day have a suite of applications replace the actual suite seems to vary month to month and depends on who you ask. Personally, I would've liked that as a goal for Mozilla's 2.0 release.
PS: Mozilla 1.8/Firefox 1.1 should have the new user stylesheet code to support a color override for it.slashdot.org!
Right click on a toolbar in Firefox, and you can add/remove/re-arrange all you want. Don't want a search? Remove it. Don't want a Forward button? Gone. Ctrl-L still takes you to the address bar, and you could easy set up bookmark keywords for your searches that way.
You don't even need the search box in Firefox, you can search directly from the location bar by using quick searches.
In Mozilla, I just hit Ctrl-L, type my search commands, hit up arrow and enter. I haven't found any way of achieving the same thing in Firefox,
Hit ctrl-k, enter search terms, hit enter.
and I hate the small size of the box I'm given to enter my search terms.
Can't help you there.
http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/tips#app_se archbarsize
/* Make the Search box flex wider
Change the width of the Search Bar
By default, the Search bar on the toolbar is relatively small. To specify your own width in pixels, add the following code to your userChrome.css file:
(in this case 400 pixels wide) */
#search-container, #searchbar {
-moz-box-flex: 400 !important;
}
But i've removed the search bar, with bookmark keywords/quick searches you can search from the location bar.
In Mozilla, I just hit Ctrl-L, type my search commands, hit up arrow and enter. I haven't found any way of achieving the same thing in Firefox
:)
Without using Mozilla, it is hard to know exactly what you mean and what happens when you use up arrow, but I think it can be acheived - I don't use the search box at all, instead I use a combination of:
1. about:config -> keyword.URL set to http://www.google.com/search?oe=UTF-8&q= instead of the default (not very intiutive no), which causes Firefox to search on Google with anything entered that doesn't look like an URL, which is anything that hasn't got a dot embedded in the first word I think(?).
2. Keywords on bookmarks, making it possible to search wikipedia with "wp search terms", CPAN: "cpan search terms" and so on. Look in the Quick Searches folder for examples. I suppose Mozilla has this too, though.
Maybe that helps, that is, if you do want to try a switch.
Spine World
Thunderbird 1.0 will read a local mbox file. Setup a "movemail" account instead of an "Email" account. I had to fix some permissions so Thuderbird could write the .lock file, but other than that, it's working fine.
Customize your toolbar. Put the "Open a new tab" button where you want.
Ctrl-Down/Up changes it for me.
The upcoming Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 (and recently released Fedora Core 3) include Firefox as the default browser. They also include Thunderbird, though Evolution is still the default. Yay, laziness!
Then read the rest of what I wrote. Setup up bookmarks with keywords for the searches you want. For example, to search PHP's manual I have a bookmark with:
K eyword: phpman
/.
Location: http://www.php.net/manual-lookup.php?pattern=%s
Then, if I type "phpman array" in the location bar, it does a search of the manual and takes me there. I also have one for Slashdot like:
Location: http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=%s
Keyword:
Then I type "/. something" which Slashdot probably won't find, but that's not really Firefox's fault.
You can get Nvu.
1. I, along with a bunch of other people, funded a developer to add roaming profile support. It's in the 1.8alpha builds but AFAIK hasn't made it into Firefox yet. Roaming profiles was a huge loss for me when I stopped using Netscape 4. I'm glad to have it back and I'm glad that open source allowed me to do something about it rather than just sit around and complain about it being gone.
2. The new Google Groups displays messages in a proportional font and doesn't have a setting to display it in monospace. This really screws up messages that are meant to be monospaced such as source code. Google has some kind of algorithm that attempts to see if the line should be monospaced but it works poorly and shows a mixture of proportional and monospaced lines in some messages. That can make things more difficult to read.
As of Mozilla 1.8a3 I can limit stylesheets to a specific web site which allows me to fix my google groups problem. The following code in my chrome/userContent.css file lets me show google groups messages in monospace:
Right now the Mozilla trunk is where the action is for new features. Eventually new development will focus on Firefox, at which point I'll probably switch over. Until then, there are new features that I need and those needs aren't being met in Firefox (yet).
Slashdot: Failed Car Analogies. Amateur Lawyering. Anecdote Battles.
"1.7.4 was reserved for any neccessary security update before the bigger 1.7.5 update."
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http://mozillanews.org/?article_date=2004-11-24+2
It's the third component to the seperated suite, financed by the Lindows team. Currently sitting at 0.60, it's looking better and better all the time.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
Of course it can read from a local mbox file... See menu "Tools" > "Account Settings" > "Add Account" > "Movemail". I use it on a regular basis.
Firefox seems to use an internal clipboard. Mozilla suite doesn't. Meaning that if I were to select a location or copy a url in Mozilla I can expect to middle-click it into an xterm, for example, for a wget. Or that if I select a link from elsewhere, I can middle-click that into the location bar. Not so for Firefox.
Doing the Right Thing should not be preempted by making a buck.
The reason you were able to save your password previously was because GMail did not originally have the autocomplete="off" attribute on their login form. They later added this attribute to their form, preventing you from saving your password from that point on.
To override this, you can use the Remember Password bookmarklet from http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html
Go to the gmail page and right click on the sign in box and choose "This Frame" > "Show only this Frame" from the context menu. Then use the Remember Password bookmarklet and sign in. You should then be prompted to save your password.
Mozilla was the original version. Firefox split off as a GUI redesign, while the original suite continued to be developed. Both projects are still active, and share the same rendering code (Gecko). The Firefox GUI has been slated to replace the original suite for some time, but there are no concrete plans (that I've seen) as to when that might happen.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
Firefox used to behave this way, and I agree, it was nicer. As of 1.0PR it stopped distuingishing between links and text. Now there is only an option for "begin finding when you begin typing." how annoying.
Not true. Works fine for me. sure you have the latest version?
There is also an [unfortunately hidden] option called accessibility.typeaheadfind.linksonly. Setting this to true does exactly what you want.
Works for me...
I agree. This was actually one of the main reasons I stuck with Mozilla up until the 1.0 release of Firefox. For me, now, the positives outweigh this negative, but it is still a little disheartening to see an almost inconsistent and non-intuitive Options window...
Tools -> Options... -> Advanced -> Tabbed Browsing -> Open links from other applications in: (*) a new tab in the most recent window.
People will pass up steak once a week, for crap every day.
No, it is still there. It is part of Mozilla, and from what I can tell has not been addressed in FF or tbird.
Always remember password on this page should do what you want:
http://extensions.roachfiend.com/index.php
You can get Nvu (I have it), but it's not the same thing. Nvu is more reaching up towards the Frontpage/Dreamweaver crowd (reaching because it ain't there yet). In Mozilla, I could just hit edit page and there it was. I found this especially useful for adjusting tables, especially when I used vi for PHP code editing.
I.e. Mozilla Composer is an integrated part of the Mozilla suite, which makes it convenient to use. Nvu (and Dreamweaver, which I also use) are not integrated parts of Firefox (unless someone has made an extension for this since I last looked).
cuneAform is another contentder for Composer replacement. However, the reviews say that it isn't ready yet. It is in the correct space though (a Composer replacement needs to be accessible as a Firefox extension).
No kidding.
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I think you may be thinking of an old behaviour in really old firebird/phoenix/whatever.
It used to be if you clicked in the URL bar, it would highlight the URL without copying it. This would allow you to "paste over" an existing URL without hassle, something that is not easy in X because the way the clipboard works normally.
They changed it back in later version to have a behavior more consistant with normal X behavior.
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
Ad 1. The default button order on Linux is Gnome-ish, since Firefox is a GTK 2 app, and as such wants to conform to Gnome Human Interface Guidelines, which specify the button order. If you want the KDEish/Windowsish button order (OK|Cancel) on Linux (or Mac), just put this in your userChrome.css: .dialog-button-box { -moz-box-direction: reverse; -moz-box-pack: right; }
and stop complaining. :)
Ad 2.
So why don't you remove the Google search box by right clicking on it, selecting Customize and pulling it into the window? And then, you can make Firefox location bar act like Mozilla's, just set keyword.URL in about:config to http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=
(The search box is much better, though, you just have to use it a few times ;))
Now, you have no reasons not to switch. :-)
I haven't tried it myself, but there is an extention for Firefox which claims to let you resize the searchbox: https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/morei nfo.php?application=firefox&id=349&vid=1245
That is the power of Firefox. It's much easier to add new features or "fix" things you don't like. No need to go hacking the sourcecode or re-compiling it!
Anton Markov
*** Linux - May the source be with you! ***
I've always used this method, and it seems to work for me.
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In user.js, add this line:
user_pref("keyword.URL", "http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=")
I think movemail support is on Unix systems only... if you are on another platform it is not available.
Here's what I do on Windows to read the mbox-format archives I have lying around from previous Unix accounts:
1. Create a new folder within Local Folders.
2. Locate the new folder within your Moz/TB profile on disk, usually in C:\Documents and Settings\blahblah...
3. Delete the folder message file (zero bytes). Don't delete the foldername.msf index file.
4. Copy the mbox-format file to this location using the name of the new folder (i.e., replace the 0-byte initial file with your mbox file).
5. Click on the folder in Moz/TB - there are all the messages!
You may need to restart the Moz/TB client or click on some other folder and then back to your new one in order to see the message list.
I've been doing this for years since early Moz 0.9.something, and it's worked great.
I've never tried this on a live mail spool file that has new emails being added to it - only with static archives. I doubt it would work smoothly on live mail spool. But then, if you have a mbox spool file you're likely on a Unix box anyway and can use the movemail acocunt type.
Middle clicking has been on by default in Firefox for a long time.
He means the ability to middle-click a link in his email program and have it open in a new browser tab. That was missing from FF/TB for a long, long time, but has been in Moz for as long as I can remember. It's only recently (possibly since 1.0) that FF has given you the option to open external links in a new tab in an existing window.
It's official. Most of you are morons.