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Patrick Volkerding Back to Work

AndreaP writes "Patrick Volkerding, the maintainer of Slackware Linux, is apparently recovering from his health problems and is back to work. From the ChangeLog of Slackware-Current: 'I'm back in California and I'm happy to let you all know that I'm feeling much better. :-) Here are a few updates so you can see that I'm trying to get back into the swing of things. Hopefully 10.1 won't be too far off ...'"

225 comments

  1. So... that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where's HIS changelog? I want to know what bug they fixed on him.

    1. Re:So... that's it? by Tezkah · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hope he has learned his lesson and makes nightly backups from now on.

    2. Re:So... that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      yo i heard they made him install openbsd. and then all the problems went away, looking for easier targets...

    3. Re:So... that's it? by cipher+uk · · Score: 3, Informative

      changelog

      not exactly what you asked for but it does tell you what happened with him etc.

    4. Re:So... that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hopefully since he was so public with his symptoms he will be as public with his diagnois and prognosis.

    5. Re:So... that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No it doesn't. It says he's better now, but there's no real explanation of what his mystery illness was and what the treatment entailed.

    6. Re:So... that's it? by dotgain · · Score: 3, Funny
      Wow, how selfish of him.

      Last time I recovered from a major, I was itching to get the details into my blog...

    7. Re:So... that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, considering that he told the entire world he was sick (in detail) and asked for our help in finding out the problem/treatment, it'd be nice if filled us in on it now that he knows. Perhaps someone else will have the same problem he did?

    8. Re:So... that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect Patrick was dead on with his suspicion about slinging bacteria/stuff (not a doctor, stuff == descriptive_enough) into his lungs. Since reading about Patrick's plight, I've heard about doctors finding [1] a new type of pneumonia caused by dental bacteria twice on the news, without looking for that sort of information.

      [1] First I ever heard of such a thing was Patrick talking about it, practically begging any doctor in the world to listen to him.

    9. Re:So... that's it? by iminplaya · · Score: 4, Funny

      They removed the SCO code.

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      What?
    10. Re:So... that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They said the ESR in his blood was normal.
      I won't speculate how it got there.

    11. Re:So... that's it? by cygnus · · Score: 5, Funny

      i backup to the toilet every night, but i've never had the courage to attempt a restore.

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    12. Re:So... that's it? by teromajusa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Heh, maybe the fact that the replies he got were mostly just alot of scolding for not managing his health better has convinced him to keep these things private from now on. Compassion does not seem to be a big priority with alot of the slashdot community.

    13. Re:So... that's it? by adler187 · · Score: 1

      Obligatory MST3K quote:

      Tom Servo - "Ya know, maybe it's time to destroy him [Joel]."

      Crow - "Nah"

      Tom Servo - "No it's fatal for humans, there's no reboot system -- and get this -- no backup copy! (laughs)"

      Crow - "No backup copy?!"

      Together - "Now that's funny!"

      from Season 1 - Ep. 14 - "Mighty Jack"

    14. Re:So... that's it? by Angostura · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Scolding? A lot of it was fairly sensible advice about how to manage the medical profession... i.e don't keep swapping doctors all the time, because they will tend to begin at the beginning again.

    15. Re:So... that's it? by plj · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd call that logrotate, not backup.

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    16. Re:So... that's it? by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      it's a pity, you would discover a new World of Smells, where exquisiteness is the main reason to stay.

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      Your head a splode
    17. Re:So... that's it? by 9-bits.tk · · Score: 1

      Oh. So. If somebody was to bleed him. It would be a red Open source logo? How the heck did Eric Raymond get in there, then?

    18. Re:So... that's it? by cloudmaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      Linus says that Dump's a bad idea - you should consider an alternat backup plan. I'm partial to hardlinked snapshots using rsync and some off-site machines...

      http://lwn.net/2001/0503/a/lt-dump.php3

    19. Re:So... that's it? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Hooray for having enough time to read all of the comments on this Slashdot article (with a score within my reading threshold), go home for the evening, and come to work the next monring, while that link is *still* trying to load. I think I'll press "stop" now and accept that it's really none of my business what's wrong with Pat anyway.

      Well, maybe I'll hit reload, just once. I see. Why wasn't the http page linked? http://slackware.com/~volkerdi/PAT-NEEDS-YOUR-HELP .txt

  2. hurray!!!! by datadriven · · Score: 1

    I tried a couple other distros on my laptop and they just didn't measure up.

    1. Re:hurray!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why is this a troll?!?

    2. Re:hurray!!!! by datadriven · · Score: 0

      I was thinking the same thing. I'm actually a slackware subscriber.

    3. Re:hurray!!!! by MightyMartian · · Score: 0

      I first downloaded Slackware around Christmas time 1993. I downloaded all the disks over a 14.4k modem, and sacrificed a few lesser program disks (including Microsoft Works) to get it going. Since then I've tried a few other distros, and while reasonably impressed with Mandrake, I still have to say that Slack is the king of distros.

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    4. Re:hurray!!!! by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      Troll? Come on, who's the metamoderator?

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  3. Man! by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And just when Slackware was beginning to live up to its name... ;)

    1. Re:Man! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MAn ! I have to go back to say Slackware is dead , I tought "Slackware is really Dead" sounded better.

  4. not to nitpick but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've spent my whole working life trying to get to the point where I say WTF and go fishing.

    1. Re:not to nitpick but by LinuxInDallas · · Score: 1

      Yeap. As that famous line from Risky Business goes: "Sometimes you just got to say what the fuck."

  5. Great! by chrisgeleven · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Thankfully this guy has finally appeared to be cured or on the road to being cured. That was one scary story we all read just a month or two ago and it is great to hear all turned out well in the end.

    1. Re:Great! by MikeCapone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm also glad to learn that he's better.

      It might be corny, but I don't know the guy and yet I thought about his health a couple of times a week during this whole episode.

      Hope that he has fully recovered soon!

      Oh, and Slackware rules!

  6. Impossible! by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hate to break the news to you Pat, but Wikipedia says your still ill.

    1. Re:Impossible! by bersl2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You had enough time to look and then post the link.

      GO FIX IT YOU LAZY BUM!

      (Then again, I probably could have fixed it in the time it took to complain.)

    2. Re:Impossible! by Gandalfar · · Score: 2, Informative

      no worries. I updated it after seeing that comment.

      You can still work on improving that sentance though.

    3. Re:Impossible! by xgamer04 · · Score: 3, Funny

      says your still ill.

      His "still ill" what?

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      When you look at the state of the world, how can you not become a radical, liberal anarchist?
    4. Re:Impossible! by bersl2 · · Score: 1

      OK, I improved your sentence.

    5. Re:Impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boy, you must be a ton of fun at parties.

    6. Re:Impossible! by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
      no worries. I updated it after seeing that comment.

      Man, do you know how to ruin a good joke!

      --
      Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
    7. Re:Impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us know that there's more to life than parties.

    8. Re:Impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      > Some of us know that there's more to life than parties.

      Like what, picking apart grammar and spelling on Slashdot?

    9. Re:Impossible! by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't worry, I changed it back...

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    10. Re:Impossible! by CharlesF · · Score: 1

      Whoa, wait, you can do that? Why didn't we just update wikipedia earlier? It would've saved all of us from a lot of suffering...

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    11. Re:Impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what we do on Sunday night when we're pissed off because of the day's hangover and lack of parties for the evening ;)

    12. Re:Impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That depends, does drinking by yourself count as a party?

    13. Re:Impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Don't worry, I changed it back...

      REVERT FIGHT!

  7. No wonder he got better... by ZSpade · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'ts like 80+ degrees outside (LA, CA), and It's Dec. 19th. It's hard to get sick around here, and even harder to stay that way.

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    Go ahead and call me unreliable; reliable is just a synonym for predictable.
    1. Re:No wonder he got better... by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 4, Funny
      It's hard to get sick (in LA), and even harder to stay that way.

      Try breathing...

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      Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
    2. Re:No wonder he got better... by ZSpade · · Score: 1

      Only if you live in the Valley, otherwise our air cleansed by the ocean breeze, or rather blown inland towards arizona, nevada, and the like...

      --
      Go ahead and call me unreliable; reliable is just a synonym for predictable.
    3. Re:No wonder he got better... by justMichael · · Score: 1

      Well, except for when the Santa Ana's blow, then it blows all that crap back into the South Bay, you're welcome ;)

    4. Re:No wonder he got better... by Zerbey · · Score: 1

      It also has some of the worst traffic pollution in the entire world. Besides, cold weather has absolutely nothing to do with catching winter colds.

    5. Re:No wonder he got better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please ship 40K of that 80 degrees to Toronto. It is currently -20C, and I'm not looking forward to walking through that on my way to finals.

    6. Re:No wonder he got better... by ZSpade · · Score: 1

      Well then, wonder if it has anything to do with bacterial infections...

      --
      Go ahead and call me unreliable; reliable is just a synonym for predictable.
    7. Re:No wonder he got better... by weiyuent · · Score: 1

      I'ts like 80+ degrees outside (LA, CA), and It's Dec. 19th. It's hard to get sick around here, and even harder to stay that way.

      Au contraire, mon frere. If the weather were like that around here (in the miserable rain of Vancouver), I'd be calling in sick everyday.

  8. Welcome Back Pat by MoThugz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...I for one, hopes that he and his family will be in good health always.

    I guess this is as good a Christmas present one could wish for. Health really is much more meaningful than wealth.

    Cheers from a happy Slacker :)

    1. Re:Welcome Back Pat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Health really is much more meaningful than wealth.

      Yeah. That's the motto of medical doctors worldwide, as well as that of the MAFIA...

  9. He's back by psi42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    His health:
    Well, I'm back in California and I'm happy to let you all know that I'm feeling much better. :-)

    His intelligence:
    and then we can look at what exactly needs to be done to try to switch over to the new kernel series for 11, or sometime later on. I still don't think it's time for that yet (it will be best to wait until 2.4 can be abandoned)

    And his sense of humor:
    It's the closest thing to a blog I've ever done. (ooooo! ;-)



    Looks like slackware is back in the running. Welcome back!

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  10. WTF by evel+aka+matt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, WTF happened to him? Miraculous recovery from unknown symptoms, or what? One minute he's dying, and now he's just dandy. Chicken soup? What? Did he say anywhere what he had, how it was cured, or anything?

    1. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, he used ancient white, middle class folk remedies such as chicken soup.

    2. Re:WTF by Omniscientist · · Score: 1
      If you kept up with all his changelogs, you would've seen that he's been sick for quite awhile actually. He was seeking treament and did lots of research on his sickness for quite a long time, this isn't just "he was sick last week, now he's ok".

      Nice to hear he's ok now tho.

    3. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you really followed the story, here is it in a nutshell (© O'Reilly)

      He was horking up things from his lungs that resembled the plaque from teeth. His dad is a dentist and has always had Pat use an electric whirling toothbrush since he was a kid. Pat always wondered where all that plaque-cloud that he was breathing was going to end up. It seems the bacteria in the plaque found a nice home in his lungs, and grew. The designer antibiotics the doctors were giving him had no effect - he needed the classic old school cillins. He got with the classic drugs, and the evil bacteria are losing.

    4. Re:WTF by caluml · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey downloaded a corrupt ebuild, which hosed his glibc, but he booted from a recovery CD, and make HUPd the floogle, which he rscp'd over from the InterMX satellite, and after rdev'ing his kernel, he can now syslog to the console. Or something.

    5. Re:WTF by e40 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like he needs to close his mouth around the brush and breath through his nose. That's what I do to prevent splatter everywhere (and, apparently, breathing evil bacteria).

    6. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope he didn't forget to hack the gibson.

    7. Re:WTF by evel+aka+matt · · Score: 1

      Thank you, that's my entire point. I DID follow the entire story about the mysterious disease, the odd ailments and the confused doctors. Now that he's better, I want to know what the fuck he had or how he fixed it or something. If you have enough time to tell everyone you're about to die, you should be happy and courteous enough to tell them how you dodged the bullet.

    8. Re:WTF by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you, but my ex used to get pissed at me for the toothpaste splatters on the mirror. I used to not close my mouth out of spite:)

    9. Re:WTF by j0d3r · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "blog" sounds more like a case of what can happen when a hypochondriac has access to too much Internet information without enough medical training. I find it interesting that he was able to self-diagnose a mitral valve prolapse and regurgitation without an echocardiogram (NOT an EKG), pulmonary sulfur granules without a bronchoscopy, decided he needed diagnostics without indications for them, and specific antibiotics without a positive microbial culture (which is hard to get with actinomycosis since it's usually found via exploratory surgery). So the problem was solved by good old Penicillin. Great. It's still an extremely effective drug, but reluctantly prescribed, since others (like cipro )have a wider antimicrobial spectrum, and are less likely to induce resistant strains. Oh, and a word as a dentist- contracting some sort of pulmonary infection from brushing your teeth is extremely improbable under any condition, even immunosuppression. Aerosols from ultrasonic scalers are a different story, but those should never be used outside a dentist's office anyway.

    10. Re:WTF by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 1

      you know, I had the same thing happen after I started using a whirling toothbrush. I started hacking up little balls of plaque. (only in my throat, not my lungs) It took me a few weeks before I connected the two. I only use the whirling toothbrush once a week now, and no more coughing up gross stuff.

    11. Re:WTF by teromajusa · · Score: 1

      Because you chose to read that story, he now owes you an explanation? Did you actually post some helpful advice? Did you even post a supportive comment? No, you didn't, and he doesn't owe you shit.

    12. Re:WTF by teromajusa · · Score: 1

      If you read the whole history, he actually seems more like the opposite (hypercondriac?). He spent a long time ignoring the problem or treating it just enough to make the symptoms go away. All the theories he came up with were not concocted prior to seeking medical opinion or despite their conclusions as you might expect with a hypocondriac. It was only when doctors were not able to diagnose his problem that he got desperate enough to try to do research himself.

    13. Re:WTF by rastos1 · · Score: 1
      ... I find it interesting that he was able to self-diagnose a mitral valve prolapse ...

      He mentioned Marfan's syndrome in some forum. Marfan's syndrome may be indicated by body shape, head shape, hyper-mobile knuckles etc. The mitral valve prolapse is just another result of Marfan's syndrome. I mean, a strong suspection on prolapse can arise even without EKG.

      At the end of the day ... I don't care. I'm glad Patrick is getting better. That's important. Makes a nice Christmas present for me.

      Patrick, take care. Have a rest. Don't put Slackware maintenance in front of your health. Though I understand that thinking about something else is mentally helpful, you need to make sure that the problems really went away.

    14. Re:WTF by mesterha · · Score: 1

      The "blog" sounds more like a case of what can happen when a hypochondriac has access to too much Internet information without enough medical training.

      Sounds like he did exactly what he needed to do to get better. What was he supposed to do when he is ill and the doctors he see give him no explanation as to what is causing the problem. He did some research to try to come up with a diagnoses. He knows his own symptoms better than any doctor he talks to for 15 minutes and who forgets him an hour after he leaves. Who else is going to do the research?

      Yes his medical training is not great, but what does that have to do with anything. He can come up with ideas that a doctor can consider and perhaps confirm or contradict. What's the harm at someone who really cares about the issue working on the problem 24/7. The only harm seems to be to the doctor's ego if the patient turns out to be right.

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    15. Re:WTF by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      Mitral valve prolapse can usually be diagnosed with a stethscope. It can be caused by various bacterial infections. And actinomyces is a serious concern for those with heart murmurs. Usually it means that before any Dentist appointment, a prescription of antibiotics (some sort of cillin usually ampicillin) must be taken. Sometimes a regimen of antibitoics has to be taken, but now adays usualy just a couple of pills before the appointment.

      It is a mild concern that the one doctor Pat mentions is a cancer researcher. Well he is in our prayers.

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  11. I'm glad by baomike · · Score: 1

    I didn't want my new Slack 10 to be the last one.

    Being sick in ND is a good reason to get well.
    You do not want to winter in ND.

    1. Re:I'm glad by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

      But if you have to be sick, the Mayo Clinic is a dandy place to do it in.

    2. Re:I'm glad by Jozer99 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      But if you just HAVE to be sick, the Mayo Clinic is a great place to do it.

    3. Re:I'm glad by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      I'm in SD, and we literally haven't seen snow yet this year. I just moved back here (I'm from here) from Denver, and I'm dieing to go snowboarding (which is nothing like copper mountain).

      Anyways, it was -5F last night, and that wind is a killer. But you are right, the last place you want to be really sick is here. Mainly because you can't enjoy life too much, unless you like staying inside reading /.

  12. Ok so what was the prob? by gregm · · Score: 2

    I followed this story closely and even posted my 2 cents... so what wtf problem?

  13. Sold his soul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  14. Great by RealBorg · · Score: 1

    to hear some positive news in these times :-)

  15. Already Updated! by neoshroom · · Score: 5, Informative

    You forget that by sending thousands of geeks over to Wikipedia one of them was bound to edit the article. It now contains the update that "On December 19, Slashdot carried the story that he is recovering and returning to work." Eat that turnaround Britannica!

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    1. Re:Already Updated! by elronxenu · · Score: 4, Funny
      Eat that turnaround Britannica!

      I'll bet they don't even have an entry for Patrick Volkerding!

  16. Cancer probably by PoderOmega · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you RTFA he is plugging a cancer specialist he either has or cancer or maybe a benign tumor that could they thought could be cancerous. But I doubt it is benign if he was having symptoms. Either way he doesn't want to come out and say it.

    1. Re:Cancer probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt it.

      Notice that the doctor who he is talking about was also at the Mayo Clinic, which is where he was treated. It is more likely that he was treated by that doctor and wants to help him in return. He probably doesn't have cancer.

    2. Re:Cancer probably by Limburgher · · Score: 3, Insightful
      . . .which is totally his decision. While I'm hightly curious and even more concerned, it's None Of Our Damn Business. I can think of nothing more private.

      It's enough for me that he's feeling better, and presumably on the road to recovery. Best wishes and good health, Pat.

      --

      You are not the customer.

    3. Re:Cancer probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Didn't he sort of try to make it everyone's business?

      Oh, and I can think of things more private. The other day I was watching a Threes Company rerun and I thought, "Wow, that Suzanne Somers sure was hot," and I reached into my pants......

    4. Re:Cancer probably by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      While I'm hightly curious and even more concerned, it's None Of Our Damn Business. I can think of nothing more private.


      If he had remained private about the whole matter it would be None Of Our Damn Business. He did however post cries for help (twice!) about his illness to the Open Source community, speculate about what his problem is, etc. At the point you make the matter public, it DOES become the publics business. Obviously he can release as much information about it as he wants, but he already pulled the trigger on making it other peoples business.

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    5. Re:Cancer probably by Limburgher · · Score: 4, Insightful
      At the point you make the matter public, it DOES become the publics business.

      While in principle I agree with you, think of it this way: If you come to me for advice meeting women, does that entitle me to watch the resulting sexual activity?

      Ignoring of course the issue of whether I WANT to. . .:)

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    6. Re:Cancer probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leave it up to Rush Limburgh to make a bad analogy.

    7. Re:Cancer probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but it does entitle me to ask whether you had any success with my advice.

    8. Re:Cancer probably by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      //rant on
      Its not anyones business to harrass the guy though, not as far as I am concerned anyway. He asked for help because he felt desperate, now he is back working on Slack. Thats enough information isnt it?

      People may feel cheated that they dont know the gory details of his current state of health but I am sure that the majority of people are just glad to hear that he is back doing what he enjoys. "Publics business" my arse, you dont own the guy just because he asked for help. Go watch the tv if you want to see bodies being pulled from auto wrecks.

      If I thought you were worried about the viability of Slackware and wanted to know who was going to take it on if its creator might be too ill to continue then I might think you had a valid worry. But if you just want to satisfy purient curiosity then thats just pointless bad manners. Rephrase the question or consider it withdrawn.
      rant off//

      I have a bad cold so I'm probably being unecessarily grumpy but the guy was in distress and now he seems to be relatively ok. So please give him a break.

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    9. Re:Cancer probably by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      He asked for help because he felt desperate, now he is back working on Slack. Thats enough information isnt it?

      No, not really. There's been some legitimate concern if this guy is really sick, or just a hypochondriac. I don't know either way, but the fact that he's suddenly real quite about what the mystery illness was (that he also asked people for help trying to identify) doesn't really help the case against hypochondria.

      "Publics business" my arse, you dont own the guy just because he asked for help. Go watch the tv if you want to see bodies being pulled from auto wrecks.

      No one ever claimed to "own the guy", but a kindly word about what's wrong with him is hardly expecting a lot. It is the business of the public at large if you're asking for help, make public statements like you're near death, act vaguely like a hypochondriac (but also vaguely like somoene frustrated with the medical system) then mysteriously clam up about the whole thing once you're "cured". Well which one is it, hypochondira or a real illness?

      But if you just want to satisfy purient curiosity then thats just pointless bad manners. Rephrase the question or consider it withdrawn.

      The interest is one of trust. If the guy does the same thing in 6 months, are we to believe him?

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    10. Re:Cancer probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if you STFW, you'd find out that doctor is listed as an Internal Medicine resident at Mayo Clinic, not an Oncology resident. Specializing in cancer research appears to be the next step that doctor is taking, but not his current employment. Internal Medicine doctors see a wide range of conditions.

    11. Re:Cancer probably by Alan+Hicks · · Score: 1
      If you RTFA he is plugging a cancer specialist he either has or cancer or maybe a benign tumor that could they thought could be cancerous.

      Not necessarily. While that doctor is obviously hooked on cancer (not exactly what I meant, but you get the idea), he may not have been brought in specifically for that. Mark Hill dug up some info on the guy here. He's a hematologist, and could have been brought in for just about any patient with strange heart trouble I'd imagine, though I'm not a doctor of course.

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    12. Re:Cancer probably by teromajusa · · Score: 1

      There's been some legitimate concern if this guy is really sick, or just a hypochondriac.

      Wow with that kind of concern for his wellbeing being shown, he must be pretty heartless to refrain from keeping his "fans" updated?

      The interest is one of trust. If the guy does the same thing in 6 months, are we to believe him?

      How many years has he been producing Slackware? How many times has he asked for help? Yeah, he's really starting to be a burden.

    13. Re:Cancer probably by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Wow with that kind of concern for his wellbeing being shown, he must be pretty heartless to refrain from keeping his "fans" updated?

      Nice strawman argument. The issue is not one of fandom. If you expose yourself to public scrutiny don't be too surprised when people actually scrutinize you.


      How many years has he been producing Slackware? How many times has he asked for help? Yeah, he's really starting to be a burden.

      That's really immaterial. What is relevent is credibility. The lack of information about the central issue he was asking help for (what's wrong with him) only leads to a further degradation in his credibility.

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    14. Re:Cancer probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, this IS slashdot..what makes you think there would BE any subsequent activity?

    15. Re:Cancer probably by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      Boy this is all getting pretty humorless.

      Though I'm enjoying the presumption that Patrick must be in league with or even the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler because he hasnt shared the gory details of his aparent recovery from illness.

      I suggest that we pettiton mr Bush to load up some bombers and flatten the guy as soon as possible. After all in the "WAR ON TERROR" you cant be too sure. Heh, its even possible that his illness is some genetically modified disease implanted by Alien terroists in league with microsoft in a plot to infect the linux community with Anthrax distributed by Slack.

      Dont you think we should be told???

      On the other hand we could be worrying about whether the collapse in the dollar is going to cause a worldwide recession or something else of more import, couldnt we.

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    16. Re:Cancer probably by HeghmoH · · Score: 1

      No, but if you end up getting married, I'd damned well better be getting an invitation, or at least a phone call saying so.

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    17. Re:Cancer probably by einstein · · Score: 1

      And with the invocation of Godwin's Law, we can finally put this thread to rest. Thank you.

    18. Re:Cancer probably by Brushfireb · · Score: 1

      On the other hand we could be worrying about whether the collapse in the dollar is going to cause a worldwide recession

      No need to worry about that. It wont.

    19. Re:Cancer probably by teromajusa · · Score: 1

      Nice strawman argument

      Straw man argument? It wasn't an argument at all. I was simply making fun of your obvious lack of concern for his wellbeing accompanied by demands that he show consideration for you.

      As for his credibility...he may be in danger of loosing his credibility as a patient but really, who the fuck cares? Are you in charge of his medical care? If you don't want to give him advice, don't.

    20. Re:Cancer probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I'm hightly curious and even more concerned, it's None Of Our Damn Business. I can think of nothing more private.

      It's not "None of Our Damn Business" when he publicizes the whole thing.

    21. Re:Cancer probably by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      Oh dear that means I lost - again!

      Sorry to hear your cat died of the big C, I'd always assumed that Douglas Adams had it wrong about the white mice and it was the cats who were realy in charge. Sadly they turn out to be disapointingly mortal after all, despite the consumate ease with which they organise households around them

      Hope your cat found the door into summer, and a merry winter solstice to you.

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    22. Re:Cancer probably by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      It wasn't an argument at all. I was simply making fun of your obvious lack of concern for his wellbeing accompanied by demands that he show consideration for you.


      And another strawman. Please stick to the facts rather than playing the emotion card.

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    23. Re:Cancer probably by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Boy this is all getting pretty humorless.


      Only because you've blown this waaay out of proportion. Hitler? War on terror? What's wrong with you?

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  17. No if he'd done that, by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Funny

    He would be dead because we all know that BSD is dead. *ducks*

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  18. PubMed by blackula · · Score: 5, Informative

    Use PubMed as your medical information source. It's where the scientists and docs publish their research and is considering a "real" datasource (as opposed to citing "the internet". Your doctors will know the name Pubmed when you mention it. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi My daughter has a heart condition and we found the doctors weren't interested in really discussing anything until we started using the "right" terminology. The terminology I picked up after reading a number of PubMed publications about my daugher's condition. I highly suggest that anyone researching any condition (but especially something exotic like Patrick) hit PubMed. Make it your source you cite when talking to your docs. Make it your primary source of information. All the other websites you read are just summing up the papers published here.

    1. Re:PubMed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remember that one of the reasons for terminology is to make it seem to yourself and others that you know what your tallking about.

      Of course some terminology is helpful to making meaningful statements in a given field of discourse.

      Medline is a bibliographic database of articles published in medical journals. It represents current and historical thought of the medical profession.

      If you or someone you love is ill and you are intelligent then I would advise the best thing to do is to apply your analytical powers to understanding, questioning and supporting your doctor.

      Certainly really knowing some terminology may help to elucidate discussions with one's doctor. It may encourage your doctor to go into more technical details.

      Self diagnosis is not a good idea...remember doctors dont generally treat themselves or their loved ones where serious conditions exist.

    2. Re:PubMed by Otter · · Score: 1
      Medline is a bibliographic database of articles published in medical journals. It represents current and historical thought of the medical profession.

      I'm not sure if you're nitpicking him about the Medline/PubMed distinction, but to clarify: PubMed is an interface to the Medline database, as well as to some supplemental collections of non-Medline references.

  19. Great to have you back! by x_euphoric_182 · · Score: 1

    As a long term slacker is great to have you back Pat! I didn't want to give up on my favourite distro... when every distro you try ends up being compared to Slackware, you know where you stand!

  20. Is it, or is it not? by 1_interest_1 · · Score: 0

    He's hinting at it, but never comes right out and says it.

    Is it cancer or not bud?

    1. Re:Is it, or is it not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not.

    2. Re:Is it, or is it not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the log: he had a really nasty lung infection, (IIRC, the sort of crap that grows in your dental plaque) which has such ill-defined symptoms that you can go a long time before it's diagnosed (of course, afterwards, its obvious) Older antibiotics actually work better than modern ones, so he got no joy from medication for quite some time. But once you know what it is, it's treatable, evidently.

      And it doesn't have to be cancer because a cancer specialist helped: anticancer drugs and radiotherapy can really hammer the immune system, so I'd imagine that a cancer specialist would know a great deal about unusual infections. Luckily, this one seems to have been a Slackware user.

      Just my my interpretation, from reading Patrick's posts. I am not a doctor.

  21. Good to hear by teslatug · · Score: 1

    Patrick is a great guy and slackware is the only distro I like. Good to see that he is recovering.

    1. Re:Good to hear by Xerp · · Score: 1

      Woot! Go Pat! And just in time for Christmas (awww, bless).

    2. Re:Good to Hear by Le+Marteau · · Score: 1

      Unfortunate name, though... what *were* they thinking

      Eh. It keeps the corporate drones from stinking up the distro's vibe, and that, I like.

      I can hear the Pointy Haired one now: "You want to install WHAT? OH no, we're going with company whose name reminds me of a flaccid, miniature phallus."

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  22. Awesome! by Nijika · · Score: 1

    Very glad to hear it. I think a lot of us have a genuine concern for a fellow geek, especially an Alpha like Patrick :)

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  23. No. by aluminum_geek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're wrong.

    Patrick said (in his original "someone help me" email) that the plaque/toothbrush scenario was one if his theories. Since then, he has not mentioned it in any of his updates (that I could find).

    All he mentions is that he wants to thank his doctor, and he's feeling better, etc, etc.

    Personally, he always sounded like a bit of a hypochondriac prima donna, and I was anxiously waiting to be proven wrong.

    1. Re:No. by nbert · · Score: 1
      Personally, he always sounded like a bit of a hypochondriac prima donna, and I was anxiously waiting to be proven wrong.


      To me it sounds more like he was really sick and started consulting experts of various fields right away. This is obviously a bad choice because experts always relate symptoms to their realm.

      Besides it's also noteworthy that some doctors have strange concepts about treating patients - I could start a huge rant right now about medics performing enemas on patients with toothache, but there might be better places for this :)
    2. Re:No. by bani · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      there's no better place for offtopic rants than /. !

    3. Re:No. by nbert · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the encouragement, however, I still don't feel that it would provide any use to me or everybody who reads it :P

      Being the only one in my family who hasn't studied medicine I'm quite convinced that there is a bad way to seek for help (TM). And it seems to me that Volkerding took this road. However, since we don't really know anything about his disease I can only make assumptions. But reading stories like the one about plaque bacteria heading to his lungs are strange enough to keep me theorizing (isn't that a insane theory?)

    4. Re:No. by Lost+Race · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He knew it was a crazy idea; he was desperate and brainstorming, hoping for any kind of clue as to what was happening to him. It's better to have lots of crazy ideas than no ideas at all. Obviously it's best to have the right idea, but that can be very hard to find, particularly when you're not an expert and all the experts keep telling you there's no problem, when there very very clearly is a problem. Patrick Volkerding is no prima donna, and no hypochondriac. If he says he's seriously ill, he's seriously ill.

    5. Re:No. by mary_will_grow · · Score: 1

      > You're wrong.

      Damn kid did that feel good? I can feel your aggression from here. Go outside.

      So does anyone actually know what happened? Pat, you rule. Lets hope your ordeal just makes slackware more popular!

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    6. Re:No. by LinuxInDallas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      His point was valid and I didn't sense a bit of aggression. Fact is Patrick made his sickness very public and stated how he had done oh so much research to discover what the problem was. Now he is better and no word as to what it was that fixed him up? Sounds awefully fishy.

      Was it real? Then let's take the open source approach: Tell us what was wrong so that we can get that in the public domain so that the next poor guy/gal with this sickness can google to find a cure. Why would he be holding back if it was real?

    7. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could start a huge rant right now about medics performing enemas on patients with toothache

      Too bad you are already late for your dentist appointment. Open wide...

    8. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mindbody Prescription by John E. Sarno

      'nuff said.

    9. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? No goatse link?

    10. Re:No. by mary_will_grow · · Score: 1

      I agree with you 100%. I just thought the way he said "Wrong!" was very rude to the original poster, very passive aggressive, and, to me at least, hints at an ocean of bottled up emotions. But I dont think its that serious, thats why I made the lightweight comment "go outside".

      Now, it is totally ridiculous that Patrick doesn't let anyone know what happened, and its really great that you point out the open-source nature of his sins. The whole point of open source is collaboration, our info here helps you there, and your info there helps us here. We build on each other. But Patrick instead "leached" medical advice from all his dedicated fans, and gave back nothing. 10 years from now if I hear someone describing similar symptoms, I'll have no more knowledge than I had when I read Patrick's. Oh well.

      Lets give him time, I'm sure its not his intention and he just wants to chill out and feel good for a bit.

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    11. Re:No. by falsified · · Score: 1

      Please tell us everything about the enemas.

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    12. Re:No. by nikkoslack · · Score: 1

      Personally, he always sounded like a bit of a hypochondriac prima donna, and I was anxiously waiting to be proven wrong.

      I thought the same thing. Patrick has been so low-vis for so long, to come out so publicly with a bunch of Googled self-diagnoses is telling of another problem...

  24. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad for you Patrick.
    Continue your great work on Slackware :)

  25. Patrick, you picked the wrong Holiday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Christmas is for giving virgin births, it's Easter that's meant for rising from the dead.

    1. Re:Patrick, you picked the wrong Holiday... by Xabraxas · · Score: 1

      Actually that's not true. Jesus wasn't born in December. In fact the 25th of December is a pagan holiday (The Cult of Mithras) celebrating the rebirth of the sun. The 25th of December is when the days begin to grow longer again.

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    2. Re:Patrick, you picked the wrong Holiday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually its even older than the Cult of Mithras (Saturnalia anyone). It s exceedingly multicultural as well. See, by the calender thousands of years ago, it was the astronomical new years as well, and the shortest day of the year.

      Even the gift giving part is more ancient than christianity. In fact, it was incoporated, and the holiday moved, simply to kill the older beliefs. Something to think about the next time somebody brings up the 'true meaning' of the holiday.

    3. Re:Patrick, you picked the wrong Holiday... by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      The 25th of December is when the days begin to grow longer again.

      Actually, that happens on the 21st or thereabouts.

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    4. Re:Patrick, you picked the wrong Holiday... by Kehvarl · · Score: 0

      21st, 25th. given a couple thousand years, I'm sure winter solstice has fallen on both dates several times.

    5. Re:Patrick, you picked the wrong Holiday... by The+Conductor · · Score: 1
      The pre-Julian Roman calandars used true lunar months, so the solstice could have been just about anywhere. At the onset of the Julian calandar, the solstice fell around the 23rd. (To get to the 25th maybe you have to account for precession of the equinoces). The Julian calandar had too many leap years, gradually pushing the solstices back. The Gregorian calandar corrected the occurence of the solsitces by inserting an 11-day hiatus, but the correction didn't bring the calandar in line with Julius Cearsar's, so two extra leap days were kept. Instead, the calandar was corrected to 325 AD, the Council of Nicea, when all the bishops convened and decided (among other things) when Easter occurred.

      But back to the OP, the gospel accounts are consistent with a birth in March (The shepherds were in the fields all through the night to tend to the folaing ewes or some such.)

  26. got over his hypochrondria/attention whoring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For now.

  27. What about BSD though? by Karma+Sucks · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is BSD still dying?

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    1. Re:What about BSD though? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are dying. :o))

  28. Cmon Pat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    You gave us tons of info before, but now, NOTHING!

    I know health problems are private and all, but you kinda made yours public. And now, you've just left us all hanging.

    The reason I'm curious, is I have been dealing with the exact same problems for over the past 2 years, and the docs can't find a thing wrong with me.

    Did a prescription of Zoloft fix the problems? Or was there more to it? Because, I'm starting to think that I just need some psychoactive drugs to fix my problems since every doc tells me they see nothing wrong. Except the pain and symptoms are real.

    Even if it was some terrible STD, we love you all the same. I've certainly had some interesting ones.

    1. Re:Cmon Pat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I had all the symptoms he had. Turned out to be a lack of Vitamin B12.

    2. Re:Cmon Pat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Mindbody Prescription" by John E. Sarno

      'nuff said.

  29. Good news by objorkum · · Score: 1

    I was very happy when I read this! It's just great! Slackware is the best.

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  30. Welcome back! Glad for the update! by strredwolf · · Score: 1

    Now I can start updating my laptop and firewall boxes again. :)

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  31. Good news! by Nate+B. · · Score: 2

    Hearing this from Patrick is good news. I started with Slackware '96 and used it for a few years until I went all Debian. With Pat's illness in the news, Slack was brought back to the forefront in my mind. I dusted off the old 486 and did a minimal install for a ham radio TCP/IP experiment. Even at version 10.0 it is still familiar and fast.

    While I still love Debian, Slackware is great for a fast, small system. Keep up the good work, Pat.

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    1. Re:Good news! by Sparkle · · Score: 1

      Not much to add there. It has been about that long since I did my first Slackware install (and nuked my wife's msdog in the process). I am sure the partition loss was my fault as a newbie. Linux ultimately prevailed and her systems have been without mickey soft for years now.

      Best wishes Pat!

    2. Re:Good news! by teromajusa · · Score: 1

      Slackware was what got me into Linux, which got me an internship, which got me a job, which saved me from being an unemployed philosophy major. Thanks Pat!

  32. I love you man, couldn't live without Slackware ;) by Mike+Zilva · · Score: 1

    I've been forced to abandon AmigaOS some years ago, but after trying several distros, I found in Slackware my new home-OS for every computer I get in touch (cos the others just give me head aches). Exelent work, and I'm extremely happy you got your health back.

  33. Re:Welcome back! Glad for the update! by Limburgher · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your IP address is what again?

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  34. his doc's blog by davids-world.com · · Score: 2, Informative
    This seems to be his doctor's cancer blog.

    (Like everybody else, I wonder what Patrick's problem turned out to be in the end... )

    1. Re:his doc's blog by leofaoro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hey This community is *really* impressive. Came here to check where all this traffic was coming from :-) I am also glad he is back. regards, Leo

    2. Re:his doc's blog by spleck · · Score: 1

      Well, I just skimmed the doc's blog... Does Pat have diabetes, leukemia, colon cancer, or breast cancer?

  35. Marfan syndrome? by spaic · · Score: 1

    The last I heard was that Mr. Volkerding believed he suffered by Marfan syndrome has this shown to be false?

  36. That's good news! by mjh49746 · · Score: 1

    I'm happy for Patrick that he's doing okay now. Linux wouldn't be the same without him.

  37. Heartwarming by nimid · · Score: 1

    This has been a story I've followed quite closely. While I've been helpless to do anything for the guy I'm glad to see that the community as a whole was there to support him. Despite my own personal life experiences, it's really made me feel that there are still a lot of good people in the world. Welcome back!

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    1. Re:Heartwarming by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      You've had mostly bad expereinces? Well, that sucks. I'm a good person (as far as you know), and I'm replying to your post. Have a nice day.

    2. Re:Heartwarming by nimid · · Score: 1

      Thanks - sad as it may seem - that really has put a smile on my face :o)

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    3. Re:Heartwarming by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Wow. Surprisingly, that genuinely makes me happy, too. Look at that - 3 good experiences on Slashdot. I'd drift off onto a rant about how people really oughtta just be nice to each other, and how simple little things like that really would make the world in general more enjoyable - but then I'd be drifting off-topic. :)

  38. So true! by zoloto · · Score: 1

    And I just downloaded 10.0 you insensitive clod! /jab

  39. This just goes to show you... by eeg3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...Projects that are centered directly around one person are a bad, bad idea. OpenBSD would suffer from this, too... specifically because Theo owns copyrights and whatnot. What happens when he quits, dies, or gives up?

    All major projects should have elected core members, and shouldn't be dependent on them.

    1. Re:This just goes to show you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would only lead to politics. Pat makes good choices, I don't always agree with them but I trust his judgement. I have no reason to trust the egotists who always manage to weasel their way to the top of the tree in /certain/ other linux flavors.

    2. Re:This just goes to show you... by burns210 · · Score: 1

      To each his own. They do their work, and it is a PRIVILEGE that they freely and openly share that work with us. If THEO wants to fork a BSD-licensed system and create an extremely secure system, great, he gets to do it how he wants, at his pace, on his time.

      His work is a PRIVILEGE for the community, not a right. OpenBSD isn't something you deserve or can demand, it is the benevolence of a talented guy, don't take it for granted, appreciate it.

    3. Re:This just goes to show you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give me a break. This is free software we're talking about - if the maintainer ceases to maintain it for any reason, anyone else can pick it up, irrespective of who owns the copyright. The Slackware community surely is big enough that the distribution would continue to exist, even if it might be under a different name.

    4. Re:This just goes to show you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful


      All major projects should have elected core members, and shouldn't be dependent on them.


      OpenBSD exists today for the simple fact that elected core members are a stupid idea. Or don't you remember how Theo was kicked off the NetBSD project by the (democratically elected) core group?

      Face it-- being popular enough to win an election doesn't mean that you know jack shit about technology, how to manage it, how to develop it, or where to take it. It means that you're popular-- nothing more or less.

      Theo de Raadt would not win a popularity contest. Come to think of it, Richard Stallman probably wouldn't win one, either. Theo has a history of being short with people who waste his time. RMS is known for being a bit of a zealot.

      But you know what? I'm glad RMS is in charge of the Free Software Foundation, and Theo is in charge of OpenBSD. Why? Because they're good at what they do:

      * Theo's leadership and technical skills have helped create products that have raised the bar, security-wise (OpenSSH, for instance, has all but destroyed the telnet protocol).

      * RMS has taken the FSF from a little-known organization that sold EMACS tapes back in the mid-1980s to a multi-national organization that has helped fight software patents, defend programmers' rights, AND develop a wide variety of free-as-in-speech tools and programs for anybody to use.

      Theo and RMS are perfect examples of why election isn't always the best policy. Where would the internet be without OpenSSH? What would have happened to Free software without the GNU project? We wouldn't have had these things if it weren't for the leadership of thoroughly un-electable project leaders.

      So you'll forgive me for not taking "elected core members" seriously. I like good software designed by excellent technologists. Not mediocre, design-by-committee crap that fits some ideal of democratic development processes.

    5. Re:This just goes to show you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Booting Theo was perfectly sensible of the NetBSD core. He was being obnoxious. If OpenBSD hadn't sold itself as being "the most secure Unix" it would be nothing at all but another footnote started by a social misfit and heavily developed by a dedicated but small community of talented people. It certainly isn't pushing any envelopes as it is now, and Theo's obnoxious behavior causes it all sorts of problems.

      RMS does about the same for GNU, with all of the actual work being done by other people. If the FSF had gone nowhere, the "free software movement" would have simply surfaced under another banner.

    6. Re:This just goes to show you... by entrigant · · Score: 1

      All major projects should have elected core members, and shouldn't be dependent on them.

      While I accept and might even agree with your views, these days I am wary of people that say such things because so many of them try to legislate what they think should happen. In the end the creator of a project should be free to hold onto or let go of as much control as he wants. Especially a free non-profit project. While the popularity may be nice, it is still the creators project, and if decides he wants to be able to pull the plug and screw thousands of users on a whim then that is his business. Those users were never forced to use his project. It may suck, but it is the way it "should" be.

    7. Re:This just goes to show you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you actually know about anything that was going on when Theo was 'kicked out'? The only person who wasn't obnoxius at that time was Theo himself.

      Go read the archives and don't just rely on what other people told you.

    8. Re:This just goes to show you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't compare Theo and RMS.

      Theo rocks
      RMS sucks

      might be a better comparison. I feel bad just mentioning the two in the same post.

  40. This is such great news... by SubDude · · Score: 1

    Welcome back Pat!

    I trully appreciate your work!

    Slackware user since '95 - my first and last distribution.

    Take care of yourself and thanks for getting back to work.

    Dude

  41. Great to hear Patrick is doing better by MrCranky · · Score: 1

    This is just to say I'm happy to hear that Patrick is doing better. I learned Linux on Slackware starting waaaay back with pre-1.0 kernels (I think), and I have a true appreciation of all that he's done for the Linux community.

  42. So Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This is SO TYPICAL of people who ask for help with either a health or other problem (think USENET) and then NEVER REPORT exactly what the problem was and how they fixed it!

    I am glad he is feeling better, but as one who contributed to info that might have helped him, I think he is essentailly holding up a middle finger (I'm better so no need to be polite and say why).

    Sorry....one of my pet peeves.

    1. Re:So Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe there's a reason it's so typical that defies your notion of them somehow being rude.

      Sometimes you really just don't know why you got better, when you are inexplicably sick and get better, it can be a very superstitious kind of thing.

      There may be an element of hypochondria/mind-over-matter you are afraid to tempt by going into too specific reasons for your recovery, sometimes you just want to accept it as it is and try to put it behind you as best you can.

      Alternatively, the details could be embarassing somehow.

      Basically, who knows. Until you've been unexplainably sick and back, it's really difficult to say what it's like. The best I can say is that it's an intensely disturbing experience and the every now and then that you remember it, you just want to count your blessings, not revisit it again and again.

  43. Thank God for Christmas miracles!!! by dsettanni · · Score: 1

    I am just a poor sysadmin looking for a new job this Christmas season, but I will say that the health of the founder of my favorite Linux distro does help to keep this a happy holiday season. Here is a wish for continuing down the road towards good health for Patrick Volkerding!! Happy Holidays Everyone!!!

  44. So WTF was wrong?? by EllynGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come on, man! You spray the Internet with in-depth descriptions of your symptoms, theories, research, and how you ran from one doctor to the next when you couldn't get an answer within five minutes... and now you don't say what you have, or what fixed it? sheesh dood. All those people who expressed concern and genuine care for you, and that's the best you can do? Not cool.

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    1. Re:So WTF was wrong?? by jasonplancaster · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with this post. I'm hopeful Patrick was just too busy getting his life back together to post a detailed update and will eventually get around to it -- although he didn't mention plans to do so. Oh well.

    2. Re:So WTF was wrong?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It may have been a simple bacterial infection, and he probably needed to be told to stay on one single course of treatment and to be very sure to take the prescribed antibiotics like clockwork and not piecemeal.

      When I read Pat's first call for help it really sounded something like a bug I caught a few years ago. I tried fighting it with all sorts of over the counter stuff, and thought it was a virus. But I still continued to get worse to the point that I felt like the walking dead.

      I went to the doctor and he said that the sidewalk outside looked healthier than my tongue did. He put me on antibiotics. I was coughing up yellow green chunks by the way.

      I was very anxious to get better, so I took them religiously, and not too long after I started to get better. I still stayed on them exactly how the doctor told me until they were gone.

      It's not hard to imagine that is what happenned here. When he first started the antibiotics he probably was not careful as to when/how he took them, missed doses, and therefore they were ineffective.

      Look at it another way, if he was still sliding downward he would have made another post about it with perhaps a last will and testament. I cringed when he posted the second time. Luckily though he seems to have navigated these tough waters.

      As it is, he is better, and I am very happy to hear that. Having gone through a similar tough illness before I do not wish that on anyone.

      And I don't blame Pat for anything. We tend to persue the comples when often it's the simple stuff that can trip us up and make us stumble.

  45. Common sense 101 by i41Overlord · · Score: 1

    While I'm hightly curious and even more concerned, it's None Of Our Damn Business. I can think of nothing more private.

    If he wanted it to be private, he wouldn't have posted extremely detailed descriptions of the problems he was having, numerous times, on a very popular public website for the whole world to read. It is obvious that he didn't want details of his health problem to be private. That's why he told everyone, and that's why he kept us updated and told us that he's OK now.

  46. Good to Hear by agraupe · · Score: 1

    I'm glad to see that another important figure in geek culture is back and working. If he integrated ndiswrappers and FTP support with the install floppy, I'd install slackware right now on my friends PC. I'm happy with gentoo, but I've been meaning to investigate slackware for some time now. Unfortunate name, though... what *were* they thinking?

  47. Just in time for Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Happy Holidays Patrick, from all of us in the Linux community to you and your family.

    -name withheld because I speak for all of us

    1. Re:Just in time for Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, Happy Holidays and welcome back!

  48. Another Festivus Miracle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just got done explaining to GF & Kids about Pat's ordeal. I am very thankful Pat is recovering and doing better. Mmmm Slackware... the Most Unix-Like , Non-Unix, Linux Distro Out.

    Slackware, BSD and me, the perfect 3-way.

  49. Yea but is he brushing his teeth regularly? by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 1

    Dental disease? DENTAL DISEASE? AKA "I didn't take care of my teeth nor visit a dentist regularly"?

    ???

  50. One guy gets sick and an OS project suffers?? by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If one guy can get sick and potentially torpedo an entire open source project, then just how well is the model being applied?

    As far as a user goes, what's the difference between some guy getting sick, and some company going under? To the user they are both left stranded with a product that potentially doesn't get bug fixes or updates.

    I'm not saying OS is flawed, but just that in this case, it makes me SERIOUSLY not want to even consider this distro. It all depends on one guy seems to be the message here.

    1. Re:One guy gets sick and an OS project suffers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There were other places releasing pacthes and such while he was gone. Some official, some not. If he was going to be away for along time or for ever, there would have been someone to take over.

      I cant remember my user name or pass, heh

      Anyway I'm a slacker and I always will be.

    2. Re:One guy gets sick and an OS project suffers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know that most businesses, even really successful businesses, fail after their creators die? Do you know why? Because people aren't cogs, and the work that they contribute can be essential no matter how diversified or potentially viable a business or project might be.

    3. Re:One guy gets sick and an OS project suffers?? by narfbot · · Score: 1

      That is not what happened. Slackware probably has the most unofficial package contributions besides Red Hat (er maybe Debian too, but *I* don't see many unofficial packages for it). linuxpackages.net [LINK]. Pat designated a way as well on how security updates should be made while he was out. The distro did not simply get stranded -- the community would not allow that. The only reason for the talk about Pat's health and waiting for his return is from our respect of the man.

  51. It's open source - modify it yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Part of the point of OSS is that if a different group of people can do it better than you at any point, they can go ahead and do so.

  52. I'm taking credit for his return to health by TwoBeans · · Score: 1

    Yep, you heard me. I fixed him. All it took was one package sent via snail mail, and a favor I called in from our mutual friend "Bob".

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    1. Re:I'm taking credit for his return to health by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey TB, I saved him too.

      Troutwaxer.

  53. That's great to hear! by showardkid · · Score: 1

    Well, I personally am very glad that he's working. Slackware 9.1 was the first distribution I ever used. Slackware is a quality distribution.

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  54. What details? by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    His two postings from November are as detailed as they were then, and the new posting has absolutely no details at all.

    Curious /.'s want to know - so what happened? Did they find a mysterious alien implant, or the right way to kill a nasty bug? All he says is that he's 'feeling better'

    1. Re:What details? by RedBear · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My theory on the lack of details is that they did all the tests and finally convinced him he's a nutbar hypochondriac and doesn't want the world to know that he got everyone all concerned about something that was all in his head.

      Put the pitchforks down, folks, it's a joke!

      But seriously, I'm one of those who thinks those who care about this issue should be given a little better status update than, "hey, I'm feeling better". It just seems kind of rude to leave so many people in the dark like that after getting them involved in the story. A lot of people have an emotional stake in his health status now that he has invited them in with long-winded stories of going to the brink of death. This sort of thing needs what the shrinks call "closure". Even for those who couldn't care less if he had lived or died there is natural human curiosity at work keeping them wondering what the root cause of the problem was and what has happened to solve it.

      Patrick Volkerding needs to step up and give out a bit more information.

    2. Re:What details? by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 1

      Perhaps even if he just said "Doctor X has identified the problem and found what seems to be the correct treatment, but due to the exact nature of it I'd prefer to keep the exact problem private"

  55. here here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good to have the Pat back rocking the Slackware! Heres a toast to health and productivity.

    ** raises beer **

  56. Keep it up the good work Pat by kokoko1 · · Score: 1

    Its nice to heard that Pat back to work, Slackware is the only distro I use. However there is lot of lessons to be learned from this illness, well health is no doubt important then anything. Being the solo maintainer of Slackware one thing you should do to make a team of competent geeks that also helps maintaining *patching* slack. present Slackware work style sound to be like my country which is governed by Army Dictator :) cheers Pat!

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  57. Re:Welcome back! Glad for the update! by Chainsaw · · Score: 1

    192.168.0.1

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  58. Pat's miraculous recovery by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, he reversed the polarity of his plasma relays and reconfigured the main deflector dish to emit a tachyon pulse.

    No, wait, that was to fix some other problem.

    Oh, I remember now.
    He shrunk a team of specialists and a submarine and injected them into his bloodstream.
    They roamed through his body, zapping the bad bacteria with a laser.
    It was touch and go for a while, especially when anitbodies started wrapping themselves around Raquel Welch's shapely body, but they managed to escape through his eye before they returned to normal size.
    (I wonder whatever happened to the submarine?)

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  59. Are you sure this is SlashDot? by leonbrooks · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Six hours up and still not +5 Funny (or even +1).

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  60. Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "anitbodies" should be "antibodies".

    I did hit "Preview", dammit!

  61. No! by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    The acme of civilised life is whining about people who whine about people whining about syntax, spelling and grammar on SlashDot. [pauses, goes back and counts the indirections Just In Case, clicks Submit]

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  62. Haven't see snow here either! by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    Hello from sunny Perth, Western Australia, outside temperature somewhere near 40oC as I type (~105oF).

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    1. Re:Haven't see snow here either! by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      Ouch. 40C! The only place I like 40C is my Barton 2600+. I might dislike the cold, but I hate the heat:) Anyway, thanks for stopping and saying hi.

  63. Re:Welcome back! Glad for the update! by Beolach · · Score: 1

    127.0.0.1

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  64. I wonder what InternationalCow has to say now... by achurch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    . . . after dissing Volkerding's Google-based self-diagnosis?

  65. Hazaah! by soccerisgod · · Score: 1

    I guess he got so annoyed by slashdot wiseguys that he thought being horribly sick just wasn't worth it.

    Seriously though, this is good news. I've always been a slackware user (starting with slack 2.0 I think) and I'm glad he's better now.

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  66. Re:I wonder what InternationalCow has to say now.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dumbass, he still doesn't have to be wrong. Have you heard Volkderding say anything about what it actually was, who cured him etc? No, he can still be a sissy hypochondriac. I'm not saying he is, but the possibility exists.

  67. yes they do :) by goon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Well done Patrick. Looks like I'll be forking out for the commercial slack.
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    1. Re:yes they do :) by elronxenu · · Score: 1
      I was talking about Britannica, dude.

      I'll bet that Encyclopaedia Britannica doesn't even have an entry for Patrick Volkerding.

      Capiche?

  68. The reason for his recovery... by evilviper · · Score: 1

    Isn't it obvious? He has recovered because I removed Gentoo and installed Slackware on my computer recently.


    I'm now convinced that Patrick's health is directly tied to the operation of one of my computers. You see, he first reported having health problems right around the time my Gentoo system was starting to develop problems. His second update was about the time (for some strange reason) parts of my gcc install disappeared from my hard drive.

    I downloaded the ISOs of my favorite distro (though few mirrors have them now) and installed Slackware. Of course there were a few problems. The slackware x.org package doesn't come with xf86cfg for some reason, and a few things needed to be changed, but I got most everything up and working right away. The few programs I have special patches for will get installed soon, and I'm sure Patrick will be feeling better after I do that...

    I'm also making improvements to this system that I didn't bother to make to the old one, so Patrick is sure to feel better than ever when he recovers completely.

    Don't worry Patrick, I'm keeping a close watch on this system, and will be sure to fix it up more quickly when it starts having problems. And don't worry about me throwing the system away in a few years, I tend to upgrade hardware, a piece at a time, until it's top-of-the-line again, and barely recognizable.

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    1. Re:The reason for his recovery... by spohl · · Score: 1

      It doen't come with xf86cfg, it comes with xorgcfg instead (I didn't try it though, I only used xorgconfig).

    2. Re:The reason for his recovery... by kaiidth · · Score: 1

      The slackware x.org package doesn't come with xf86cfg for some reason

      The reason is because slackware doesn't come with xf86 any more. It comes with x.org. (I know, you said it). Logically therefore the configuration program is no longer known as xf86cfg, but as xorgcfg :-)

      However you're probably better off with xorgsetup.

      Now I've done my bit for Patrick too!!!

    3. Re:The reason for his recovery... by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip.

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  69. Oh come on by beakburke · · Score: 1

    Why wouldn't you want to winter in ND???? :)

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  70. Brush those choppers by goreking · · Score: 1

    ...floss, brush & rinse with Listerine! Takes 5 minutes out of your life twice a day.

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  71. Yay!! by martinultima · · Score: 1

    I'm a Slackware user myself (I started with Red Hat last year, but switched over soon after, mainly because of this forum ;-) ... glad to hear that Mr. Volkerding is back in action, I was starting to worry that Slackware would disappear forever!! *PHEW*

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  72. Lung Cancer? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    This post from the Dr.'s blog is interesting, as Volkerding had said himself that he had pericarditis.

    The previous post mentioned in the blog is about a middle-aged smoker - anybody know if Volkerding is a smoker?

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