Study Links Cell Phones to DNA Damage
Amit Malhotra was one of several readers to point out a story running on numerous sites about a study linking cell phone use to DNA Damage. Of course, a recent gammaworld campaign has served to remind me that mutations are almost always beneficial, so there is nothign to fear.
The super speed and x-ray vision are great superpowers.
Maybe one of the effects of these mutations could be better spelling...
Now all those Valley Girls who use cell phones all the time will get super powers.
"We have to, like, go save the president, you know. hee hee! *Laser Beam Eye Sound Effects*"
Just a boy doing unproffesional IT work that's way above his head.
you have to die of something...
but do you think this will make people stop using their damned cell phones? no way, they need to figure out a way to make them less harmful yes, but what incentive will they have to do that if this isn't hard fact.
remember teh craze a few years ago when they thought it gave you cancer? how many scares are we going to have. do people realize how many radio waves go through your body every single day? i am sure sitting infront of a computer monitor each day is a bit worse than me using my cell.
They // lawyers // need a new cow.
The pharmaceuticals, fastfood, and cell phone companies have money. They are nice big cows waiting for the right amount of scaremongering to generate up public concern. The big lie works well here, keep repeating it, getting it into newspapers, internet chain letters, and voila!
So what if there are any possible beneifts, if there is a negative its a horror! Think of the children, the elderly, the dienfranchiesed. These huge evil corporations slowing killing us for a profit.
So, who files the class-action suit first?
* NO I did not RTFA - it died already.
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There's not nearly enough information here.
I'd like to see them cone down the exact wavelengths that are purported to be problematic. It may be only a certain portion of that band that causes enough resonance in the DNA molecule to break the molecular bonds. The EM spectrum is large... and this could be a very wavelength-specific phenomenon.
For example, everyone knows that Ultraviolet radiation is harmful to humans... it causes sunburns, skin cancer, etc. However, clinical effects within the ultraviolet range of the EM spectrum (consisting of UVA, UVB, and UVC in order of increasing frequency) vary significantly. UVA will tan your skin, but isn't terribly harmful otherwise. UVB, and part of UVC will cause Ultraviolet Keratitis ("welder's eye" or "snow blindness"), and UVC is the worst for causing skin cancer (UVB causes cancer too, but UVC is worse).
We frankly need much more information... particularly a bit more specifcity about what wavelengths of Cell phone radiation cause DNA damage. A shift of only 20-30 nanometers in the UV range can make a big difference in clinical effects... who knows where the sweet spot is in the cell band?
I'm not throwing away my cellphone until I know more... a LOT more.
Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
It's interesting that they don't offer up an explanation for the cellular damage. Last time I checked, microwaves were non-ionizing. The worst you should experience from a cell phone might be a little heat. I'm skeptical, as usual. Remember the scare about power lines? About alar? Remember a couple years back when there was a study that showed that heated carbohydrates can produce a cancer-causing chemical (I forget the name)? Wine was bad for you, then it was good, then it was bad, and now it's good again. There's a new study every year that shows something from the modern world kills us. Well, last time I checked, living in a modern society generally means you're going to live 40 years or more beyond what someone in a primitive society could expect. So even if everything is bad for you, it's more than balanced out by the things that are good.
My observations suggest that they merely destroy the part of the brain that regulates manners.
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In a separate announcement in Hong Kong, where consumers tend to spend more time talking on a mobile phone than in Europe, a German company called G-Hanz introduced a new type of mobile phone which it claimed had no harmful radiation, as a result of shorter bursts of the radio signal.
(Additional reporting by Doug Young in Hong Kong)
Everyone seems to have an agenda in the news these days. Is there no such thing anymore as a news release not trying to sell something or push an agenda?
Hmmm, guess I've gotta rethink putting my cell phone in my pocket eh? Fortunately, my kids came before I started doing that! So I guess that means...errr, forgot where I was, nevermind!
To the making of books there is no end, so let's get started
actually - this study seems to be anything but conclusive. The researchers of course need 4-5 more years to figure out if they really actually figured out anything to begin with.
Another case of people reading the headline and news blurb and not the underlying information.
Bluetooth has a far lower transmission power.
IIRC GSM permits up to a 2W transmission (if you are far from a base station), bluetooth is nearer 1mW, so it should cause less damage.
Of course people forget the whole inverse cubed relationship between power and distance, so the same people that complain about the effects of base stations near their house expose themselves to thousands of times more radation by using cellphones themselves.
Here is yet another example of releasing findings by press release. This is amazingly irresponsible, since it looks like the study involved irradiating cells in a dish. Not applicable to human exposure at all ...
Here are my favorite quotes:
Because of the lab set-up, the researchers said the study did not prove any health risks.
and
"We don't want to create a panic, but it is good to take precautions," he said, adding that additional research could take another four or five years.
In other words, I need more funding to support my sketchy research that may or may not be applicable to human exposure - sheesh.
to remind me that mutations are almost always beneficial
Most mutations are harmful, or neutral at best. To use the watchmaker analogy, chipping away at the gears of your watch is more likely to break something than to make your watch into an atomic clock.
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ONLY ionizing radiation can cause dna breakage
Cell phones do NOT emit ionizing radiation, and therefore they can not cause dna breakage and cancer (byproduct of dna breakage). The article does mention SAR of non-ionizing radiation, but those levels are too low to even move molecules.
Non-ionizing radiation is also not cumulative.
This study is spreading FUD.
" In a separate announcement in Hong Kong, where consumers tend to spend more time talking on a mobile phone than in Europe, a German company called G-Hanz introduced a new type of mobile phone which it claimed had no harmful radiation, as a result of shorter bursts of the radio signal."
Non-ionizing radiation is not cumlative, and would not make a difference if the signal was sent in shorter bursts.
I wouldn't be suprised if this research company in Germany is tied to this G-Hanz company (also in Germany)
The cell phone industry issued an internal memo discouraging employees from using the term 'mutation', and instead having them call it 'unanticipated DNA improvements'
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If you wrapped a cellphone in ham, would it no longer work?
I don't know that, but I'm sure your phone would no longer be kosher...
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