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Is Apache 2.0 Worth the Switch for PHP?

An anonymous reader writes "It seems like some of the members of the Apache Software Foundation are a little angry with the PHP Community because they don't recommend using Apache 2.0 with PHP. Since PHP is installed on half of all Apache servers this is a major issue for them. A number of high-profile PHP community members such as John Coggeshall and Chris Shiflett have blogged about this decision in light of a recent posting by Apache Software Foundation Member Rich Bowen which called PHP's anti-Apache2 stance FUD. Is there any real reason for the PHP community to start recommending Apache 2.0, especially when the 1.3.x series of Apache is rock solid and proven? Note Rich did later commend PHP for being a great product, so it's not all flames."

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  1. Perl vs PHP: The final showdown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
    Let the battle commence

    So there you have it PHP sucks in comparison to perl, because some guy on the internet says so. Now aren't you glad you stuck with your arcane-obfuscated-gibberish parser?

  2. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anybody still running Apache1 on Windows is nuts. Apache2 works way better on Windows.

    Anyone still running Windows is nuts ;)

  3. I'm sorry Bruce, you'll have to come back later. by Mr+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not nearly late enough in the thread for someone respected to post correct, non-inflamatory, rational information.

    You're going to stop all the foaming at the mouth, and who wants a half-frothed troll this close to Christmas?

  4. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > Anyone still running Windows is nuts ;)

    Anyone who runs thru windows is nuts!

  5. No its not worth it, by Jason+Hood · · Score: 5, Funny


    Stick with kernel 1.3.79 and Apache 1.1 just to be "safe".

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  6. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by KilobyteKnight · · Score: 4, Funny
    Anyone who eats nuts is Windows!

    How much longer can we keep this joke going?

    Anyone who wants to keep this joke going is nuts.
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  7. Re:I'm sorry Bruce, you'll have to come back later by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's OK because I didn't read any of the articles linked to in the Slashdot story before posting. Thus, I maintain the proper level of ignorance for Slashdot.

    On the other hand, I had looked at the problem reasonably hard when choosing supported software for UserLinux, so I did know something about the problem. So perhaps that disqualifies me.

    Bruce

  8. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by Randolpho · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone who windows these nutz is joking.

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  9. Not up to us ... by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How much longer can we keep this joke going?

    Talk to Microsoft, it's them what's keeping the joke going.

  10. Re:Frontpage by slacker775 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If Frontpage extensions are not available for Apache 2, that sounds like an extremely compelling reason to use 2.0! Frontpage extensions should never be used in any way, shape or form IMHO. I suppose they can actually be secured in some fashion, but I've never encountered any organization that succeeded at it. These are always backdoors into web defacements and depending on the architecture, the organization itself.

  11. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by rabbit994 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, Windows 2003 IIS is quite nice. I know I'm going to get flamed and probably modded down but if your stuck on Windows 2003 (in particular) IIS 6 > Apache. Note, I've tested PHP on IIS 6 over Apache with PHP. IIS 6 was faster, more secure (assuming patched) and used less CPU. No, I didn't do any official study, that's was my findings personally. I found people who bitch about IIS 6 have either a. not used it or b. Are poor Windows admins or maybe both.

  12. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by iamlucky13 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Anyone who wants to keep this joke going is nuts.
    Anyone who is nuts will keep this joke going.
  13. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apache runs anybody on nuts through a window.

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  14. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by Evil+Grinn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone who wants to keep his nuts will use Apache2.

  15. Re:PHP used to be an ASF project by JamesOfTheDesert · · Score: 4, Funny
    But then again I'm a perl developer and php is obsolete to me.

    Hello, pot? This is kettle ...

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  16. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Mornington cresent Oh sorry wrong joke.

  17. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by hwyengr · · Score: 1, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, Windows nuts YOU!

  18. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by khendron · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anybody reading this far is now nuts.

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  19. Re:No need to switch ... by garcia · · Score: 1, Funny

    If you have very large numbers of processes, the O(1) scheduler alone is enough of a reason. For personal use, I find the low latency quite a good reason to change.

    I suppose it depends on what you use the machine for. Linux isn't ready for the desktop so I don't run a GUI on it. Thus I really have no latency issues running maild/httpd/sshd/etcd.

  20. Re:No need to switch ... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny
    I run a FreeBSD server with Apache 1.3.33

    One 3 too many, and one 7 short of 1337! Work on it. Maybe install Slack or something...

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  21. OT: Great sig by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 4, Funny

    The problems with Christianity and D&D are essentially the same: too many people RTFM, but don't comprehend it.

    Great sig!

    The good thing about Christianity is that the DM is much, much better. Or at least more consistent.

    The bad thing is that He can't be bought off with a six-pack of Dew and a pizza.

    The good thing about D&D is that the DM is usually your friend and will try to make it so you have fun.

    The bad thing is that the DM can give you millions of gold pieces, +8 everything and make you king of world or even a god, but you still gotta go to work/class on Monday morning.

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  22. Re:PHP used to be an ASF project by Taladar · · Score: 2, Funny
    My personal opinion is that PHP should start again, like Microsoft often does.
    You misspelled "seldom"
  23. Re:apache2 is essential for Windows by kayen_telva · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apache can run farther on nutz than windoze.

  24. Re:FUD in it's purest form ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Open Source doesn't like to do unnecessary work.

    Tell that to the GNOME people.