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Dead? Hope You Left Someone Your Passwords

A reader writes "Looks like if you die, Yahoo won't grant access to family members. I know I've enjoyed reading my grandfather's letters from WWII, this could be a huge loss of history if other ISP's have the same policy." MJK points out that Slashdot has explored the notion of what happens to your data after you die.

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  1. Is this something you'd really want? by Rorschach1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My family members are welcome to keep all the emails I've sent them. But my personal mail? That'd incriminate way too many people still living...

    1. Re:Is this something you'd really want? by DeathFlame · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly.

      Do I really want my parents seeing emails I've sent my girlfriend [or if you find that hard to believe... some 60 year old man posing as a girl]

      Knowing what I've written, I'm pretty sure I'm happy that they don't get to access such files when I die. Do you want to read erotic messages your parents send to each other?

    2. Re:Is this something you'd really want? by AviLazar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thats touching, but two things come to mind

      1) Hey hot stuff, I am gonna ride you all night long like a dog in heat

      2) Yes my wonderful lover. Our 30 year relationship, cheating on my husband has been great. He doesn't even realize that my child is really yours.

      While this is worst case scenario - man it would definitly be throwing salt on the wound.

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  2. so by ch-chuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    don't keep anything you want to pass on stored on Yahoo! Next problem?

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    1. Re:so by SuperBigGulp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Um, I think a little sensitivity is called for. The deceased account holder was killed in (I believe) Iraq and was probably too busy doing other things to archive his email to non-volatile storage. And even if he did have time, he was in a f* ing war zone...What in Iraq is not volatile? If you did find something, wouldn't you want to encrypt it somehow in case it was lost or stolen? What would you do with that password/key?

      Maybe wills should include language defining how this type of information should be handled, but for now it seems like Yahoo should step and do the right thing.

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    2. Re:so by Jim_Maryland · · Score: 5, Insightful
      A possible solution would be to change the authentication process a bit. Just throwing out this idea sort of quickly...

      User creates an account

      User defines a secondary password

      Secondary password is only valid for authentication after 6 months (or some other reasonable time period) of inactivity (presumably death)

      Something like this would hopefully allow for accounts to be secure until a person dies while allowing access after a defined period of time. I guess the flaws could be that most ISPs don't necessarily keep accounts active after a couple months non-payment or after a "X" days of inactivity. ISP's could offer some protection like this for an addition fee if a person really wanted to leave access after they depart the world.

  3. Just to be safe... by loteck · · Score: 5, Funny
    you can all go ahead and list your passwords under this thread, so that your family can come back and find them when you bite the dust.

    This is slashdot, you can trust us.

    1. Re:Just to be safe... by starsong · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's a really great idea! I'll try this. In the meantime, here's a couple of things that have worked for me:

      1) DON'T POST ALL YOUR PASSWORDS ON SLASHDOT. :)

  4. I take it with me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My data is my data, and unless I stated otherwise in my will, it dies with me.

    Also, if my relatives would have something to see in my email, I would let them read it.
    After all the reason you use the yahoo mail is privacy.
    Why should my privacy die with me ? (sounds funny, though)

  5. Re:another reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, yes. Whenever he complains, this is what I tell my son 6o11uM.

  6. pr0n by GoofyBoy · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I die, I wouldn't want any one to find my pr0n. Someone needs to create encrypted mpeg/divx.

    Or maybe I should request that I be buried with it to take to the afterlife. "Please bury me with the harddrive with the folder name 'Stuff'".

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    1. Re:pr0n by lcde · · Score: 5, Funny

      When I die, I wouldn't want any one to find my pr0n. Someone needs to create encrypted mpeg/divx.

      all the passwords would be cracked in no time because they have to be easy enough to type with one hand.

      HAHAH uh.

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  7. I had no idea... by krbvroc1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Grandma: Oh my god, how many emails about viagra did he have?
    Ohhh, I better contact this poor Mr. Mbutu and see if I can help him out. I didn't realize pop had friends in Nigeria.
    Look at all these money making schemes? How come I never saw any of this money?
    Oh dear, I had no idea pop was into asian porn...
    My my, it looks like pop was corresponding with someone about Vicodin.

    Perhaps its better he died...

  8. Re:That's what your will is for by identity0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi, this is identity0's son. Dad passed away last night, and he wrote in his will to tell you that you're a frickin' moron. Your idea will never work.

    Have a nice day, sir.

  9. Yahoo is doing the right thing by netmask · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I support Yahoo's stance in this matter. While he's dead and really doesn't have a care in the world, because nothing about him besides a pile of flesh exists..

    Out of respect, what if there were things he never wanted them to know? What if he was gay and having an internet relationship with some man, and his parents were anti-gay? They would then be left thinking they never knew their own son, and all of this crap.

    If you want people to have access to that sort of thing, leave them access. Put your passwords in a safe or something if you MUST write them down.

    Yahoo and others should not be giving access to an individuals person email, dead or alive. I don't care if the family presents a death certificate or not. You should have a reasonable expectation of privacy and deceny even after death. Let your personal life die with you.

  10. Email should be considered property by jay2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The email or other electronic records are property just as paper letters are. By default, you don't have privacy in death as your paper letters are inherited by someone unless you leave provisions in your will for them to be destroyed. If you are a famous person, your person letters are likely valuable property.

    I don't see why email should be considered any different. Yahoo's position really is that your email is not personal property. They "own" in the sense of controlling the property while it's on their servers. I don't think Yahoo's objection is really about privacy. They don't want your email to be considered property because they could then be sued when they accidently lose it, not to mention the administrative costs of dealing with probate transfers. If this was really about privacy, they could give make the disposition at death user controllable when the account is created.

    I doubt this issue will be fully decided by the courts until some famous author dies and the only copy of their unpublished work in on some server somewhere and worth a lot money. Then the family will sue for access to the valuable property which they've rightly inherited through the will and the courts will be forced to decide whether ISPs can destroy property on somebody's death.