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PostgreSQL Gets New Website, 8.0 Release Candidate
gavinroy writes "As can be seen at PostgreSQL, the PostgreSQL www team has released the new version of the site sporting a new clean and more professional look. This is hot on the heels of PostgreSQL 8.0 RC2 which includes numerous bug fixes and is one step closer to production ready PostgreSQL on the Win32 platform." Neil Bahroos points out this ZDNet article on the upcoming 8.0 release.
I liked the old design better, but I guess it's just a question of time till I get used to it. And the new website doesn't use tables for the layout. Would like to see such modernization at slashdot, too.
BTW: I think the good documentation for PostgreSQL is reason enough to use it. This is a big plus for me. In contrary I don't like the MySQL documentation at all.
The web site looks veyr nice and professional. I think good web designs like this will help improve OSS image with the PHBs. But, why the fixed width at 800 pixels? I have so much screen that's empty when reading the site that could be put to use.
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At first glance, it reminded me a lot of RedHat's website. I wonder if they 'borrowed' XHTML and CSS code from them...
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Not to be a troll, but the new design looks strangly familiar...
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Compare:
http://www.postgresql.org/about/
with...
http://www.redhat.com/about/mission/enterprise.
I am sure I have seen another one even more alike than the redhat site, any idea?
Aah... those fond memories. I remember, when I first time tried the PostgreSQL... I went to their web site and was scared away, because I thought it was some commercial closed source product that cannot even be evaluated without signing up for a demo version or something other horrible soul-eating stuff... The web site was so professional-looking even years ago that at the first time I was totally fooled about it.
It's surprising, how huge effect a visual layout can have. At that time, I was only used to see ugly, unprofessional-looking open source project homepages. But PostgreSQL has always been an exception. In my opinion they have always had a very good-looking web site.
It's surprising, how much visual appearance can affect our (or at least my) judgment. I hope that this is something that all OSS projects keep in mind when designing web sites and user interfaces.
A list of new features as compared to 7.x? I can't find one on the PostgreSQL website.
Err make that TinySofa.com.
The biggest benefit of PostgreSQL 8.0.0 is that for the first time it will run natively on Microsoft Windows servers
Honk if you think being able to run on Winders is the most important feature in this, the best relational DB around. I tend to think that not being able to run on Winduhs is a feature. It prevents PHBs from getting silly ideas like "Windows is a viable platform."
"PostgreSQL handles virtually all the standard SQL constructs. It is easy (relatively speaking) to administer, it is fast, it is efficient, it has a great API, and it supports ODBC, why would you choose something else?"
Mark Woodward, Mohawk Software "Virtuall all"? "Relatively speaking"? I think Postgre is great, but they need to get better stuff than this on thier front page.
This is why a native Win32 build is important. I looked at PostgreSQL a while ago, and even got the non-official Win32 build to run on the box. Ironically, the more Linux/Open Source applications I get running on that Windows box, the closer I am to making the jump to Linux for good. And since I refuse to upgrade past Windows 2000, that day is rapidly approaching. The only things holding me back now are my DNS and Mail servers (I've currently got Windows only servers). If I could have found a Win32 build of a Linux Mail and DNS server, I'd literally have nothing keeping me off Linux right now.
The most important thing for me was to get the servers up and running. I know Windows, I didn't know Linux. So instead of adding another thing to learn, I took the path or least resistance and installed Linux/Open Source servers under Windows. And I don't think I'm alone. Just look at this recent story... I think TheRaven64 got it right.
BTW: Anyone have a Win32 build of Linux Mail/DNS servers for me to kick around? Anyone?
"1984" was ment to be a warning, not a guidebook. You hear that Kim Jong-il!? BushCo?!
when PostgreSQL release their latest version (8.0) all Open Source database project will have a native port to Windows.
Open Source Database comparison: MySQL, PostgreSQL, MaxDB, Firebird and Ingres
Yes, it's surprising how much effect some things can have.
I wish they would upgrade the name to something less cutesy and more practical. I'm not trolling here, at least not intentionally. Unlike certain toy DBs that are more popular with Open Sourcers, PostreSQL is a serious, enterprise-class database that amazingly is available for free with no strings attached, even for commercial use. It's terrific.
But the name is so bad that those who don't know the product well don't know how to pronounce it and those who do know it well are sick of pronouncing it and just call it "Postgres". Well, if it can't be officially called "Postgres" then it should get itself a name that works for both official and common use.
"Those who have never entered upon scientific pursuits know not a tithe of the poetry by which they are surrounded."
Virtuall all"? "Relatively speaking"? I think Postgre is great, but they need to get better stuff than this on thier front page.
Maybe it's not as easy as you think.
Infuriate left and right
Yes, the PostgreSQL name is a horrible accretion of hacker word puns that few can pronounce correctly. If I remember correctly, I think the history of names is:
I think a good name would be "Progress". It hints at the program's history. It is easy to pronounce and it has GOOD connotations!
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Seriously. If you're on a Windows box, it's a great way to get a sane command-line environment, and lets you run those OSS packages that might otherwise be difficult to port to run directly on top of Win32. Plus, once you're familiar with the command line environment, config files, etc. (no pun intended) - moving to Linux will be even easier, as you'll have a basic familiarity with most of the tools that are readily available with a Linux distribution.
Just PostSQL,
...
post as in after or even better beyond !!
beyond sql
and it can be pronounced postsequel
postsequel is definitly easier on the tongue and easier to remember, but then I am not sure if it's smart to change names now
Anyone that puts grey text on a white background needs to be taken out and shot. Throw their bloody corpses on top of the remains of the people that put dark yellow or blue on a dark(er) blue background.
PostgreSQL can NEVER contend with Oracle, Sybase, or DB/2. Until they raise the performance to at least half of say... grep... it can't be taken seriously. Forget these "benchmarks" I'm talking real world performance. Never in my life have I been so disappointed in an application. Mediocrity is the same at any price, free or not. A new pretty face for their website solves none of these problems. I think the time wasted on this facelift could have been better spent on real development.
Dude your freaking high....
I use postgres in production and it performs as well as MS SQL server or Oracle for most apps.
I have no complaints at all, except for the weak parsing of plpgsql functions when saved, this really needs to be improved, because as of now you don't catch errors until you actually run it.
Is anyone able to comment on the availability of the various 3rd party tools on the windows platform?
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I don't like the fixed width thing, and I thought the old site looked pretty good, and waaas very functional.. I don't see the need for a change..
-SR