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RFID Cards to Include Tin Foil Hats?

An anonymous reader writes "The tinfoil hat finally gains government approval. From the story: 'Wrap an RFID chip [of the US passport] inside a Faraday cage, and the electromagnetic waves from the chip reader can't get in and activate the chip. The State Department says it may use the principle to give travelers an added sense of security. No, there won't be rolls of aluminum foil included with every passport. Instead, the passport cover may include a network of wires woven into the fabric. Fold the passport shut, and there's your Faraday cage. Even Schneier agrees that a properly shielded passport cover should solve the problem. He wonders why this wasn't included in the original plans for the new passports. 'It took a bunch of criticism before they even mentioned it,' Schneier said. And he hopes the anti-snooping technology is thoroughly tested before the new passports are introduced next spring.'" We've also seen this suggested in the past.

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  1. Still too invasive by phr1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It means metal detectors will find your passport cover. When I go through airport security, I get wanded and they look in my wallet, which bugs the heck out of me. I usually carry my passport and cash in a nylon neck pouch though, and that doesn't set off the metal detectors. I don't like the sound of this new wire mesh thing. Big Brother and for that matter any club or courthouse I might visit has no need to know whether I'm carrying a passport.

  2. Re:Writing RFID tags? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can't write to an RFID tag, the data is burned in.

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  3. Re:Mu metal is the shielding of choice by dougmc · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Mu metal which offers superb shielding of the magnetic component of the EMF.
    mu metal is way overkill. Seriously, a single layer of tinfoil is more than enough.

    You're not trying to stop a static magnetic field (there's no need) -- you're trying to stop a electromagnetic wave, and stopping either part of it (electric or magnetic) will do it.

  4. Big Brother is Watching by AndrenidEnder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is an early precedent towards a totalitarian state. We say, "Okay, that sounds resonable." Then, they do it with something else, something slightly more intrusive. You know the government wants to put tracking devices in every car for "taxation purposes". Another precendent. There are already black boxes in most newer model cars that save some of the statistics of your driving. Call me paranoid, but I don't like this kind of stuff, and I seem to be in the minority.

  5. 1/2 solved? by serps · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hang on, this solves the "random people can steal biometrics by wardriving" problem, but what about the "US Government now knows your fingerprint etc details" problem?

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    1. Re:1/2 solved? by xlv · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Unfortunately, the attitude expressed in the
      parent comment is part of the problem that
      was expressed by Bush/Ashcroft/Tenet/Ridge --
      "not a matter of IF there will be another
      terrorist attack on USA soil, but of WHEN".


      Let me just first say that I have absolutly no sympathy for the current US administration. Now that that's out of the way, the above statement is one of the few accurate truths coming out of this administration. If you believe otherwise, i.e. that there is a way to prevent all terrorist attacks against the US, you are following the same kind of logic that brought us the missile shield system and are not dealing with reality. There may be ways to reduce significantly the risk of future attacks but there is no doubts in my mind that the US will be attacked in the future.


      So, in the most optimal case, terrorism could be greatly reduced and could then be viewed only a nuisance instead of a major issue like it is at the moment. Wait a second, that sounds familiar. I think I heard a presidential candidate formulate somthing similar not too long ago...

    2. Re:1/2 solved? by mrogers · · Score: 2, Insightful
      An improved method of verifying people's identity would go a long way toward weeding out the illegal aliens (and the terrorists that are hiding amongst them).

      Name one illegal alien who has ever committed a terrorist act in the US.

      "not a matter of IF there will be another terrorist attack on USA soil, but of WHEN"

      True, but statistically irrelevant to your safety. Which of the following has killed more people in the US in the last five years:
      a) Terrorism
      b) Traffic accidents involving ice cream trucks?

      Any sensible administration would abandon the war on terror and launch an immediate and preemptive strike against the global menace that is ice cream.

  6. So why have them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It sounds like someone's getting an RFID kickback...why not use a barcode? Proven, cheap, and doesn't require new wars for foil...

    1. Re:So why have them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      A two-dimentional barcode doesn't contain enough information?

      All they need to know is the passport number. Everything else is already in their database. Salient changes will be made in the DB, not on the passport identifier.

      Many RFIDs cannot be modified. They wouldn't need to anyway.

  7. What!? by Parandor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, lets recap: they are going to sell magnetic shield with those RFID passports, right? That's briliant! I also have some prime estate on mars I could sell them at a discount. A real steal!

    Note that NOT using RFID is not what they propose. It is really impressive to see how far they are willing to go in order to justify pushing corporate interest despite its lack of use. There is plenty of technological solutions that can do the job, they have to insist on the one that won't...

  8. Re:Moderators please, DO YOUR JOB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Um, because it's fucking hilarious?

    "Tin-foil-hat" is an idiom used to refer to the pathetic counter-measures that privacy minded citizens (read: conspiracy-theory freaks like me) gravitate towards.

    Ah, the kids these days...

  9. Re:Density of metallic fibres required to block RF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I like my false sense of security.

  10. Why not a bar code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the purpose of the wire mesh is to prevent the passport from being read without opening it then why didn't they just use a 2-D optical bar code that is visible only on the inside of the passport? Seems like somebody wanted RFID for the sex-appeal factor rather than any objective need.

    1. Re:Why not a bar code? by SagSaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Barcodes can't truly store information, and they misread all the time.

      I disagree. 2-D barcodes can very easily be used to store information, rather than just a key to some seperate database. At a past employer, most parts had a 2-D barcode which, besides for encoding the serial number (i.e. key to an external database), encoded important part parameters. Often, these parts were sold in matched sets. Encoding the data on the part allowed the customer to choose a replacement part with the correct parameters should they need to replace one of a set of parts.

      As far as misreading the barcode, it sounds like your library made a poor choice with regard to which barcode and/or readers to use. Most barcodes formats have parity/check characters built into the specification. This allows the reader to detect when it has misread a bar code. (Most of the time. It's possible that the original barcode and the misread bar code are both valid some small fraction of the time.) It's also possible, space permitting, to include a 16-bit or 32-bit checksum in the encoded data. This further reduces the chance of reading a valid, but incorrect, barcode.

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  11. Re:Oh Man. by myukew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    exactly what I wanted to say. Connect the "faraday cage" with the rfid chip and you have an rfid chip with a really big antenna!

  12. Re:RFID in passports is a dangerous idea anyway by Insanity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A further point: RFID's supposed advantage of high capacity for data storage is easily rivalled by a full-page 2D barcode.

    A standard PDF417 barcode contains about 1kB of data in 35 x 9mm. That's 315mm^2. My passport has a useful printable area of roughly 9600mm^2. That means that a single passport-page-sized 2D barcode could hold roughly 30kB.

    Of course, anyone can print barcodes. But then, relying on the inaccessibility of RFID programming and reading equipment is security through obscurity at its worst.

    It may take some time for RFID readers and writers to be commercially available, but it will happen, just as anyone today can buy magnetic card equipment.

    Real security comes not from the inaccessibility of the physical storage medium, but from the data itself, specifically, through cryptographic signing.

    RFID is truly a pointless technology for personal identification.

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  13. Re:Wow.... by russotto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, it's not exactly rational. But it certainly makes sense by government standards. Instead of a cheap contact-based solution, use an expensive RFID solution... then use an expensive passport cover to make it not work at a distance.