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Medical Students Profile Middle-Earth's Gollum

An anonymous reader writes "Several medical students and a lecturer in 'old age psychiatry' have written up their analysis and final diagnosis of Gollum in the British Medical Journal. Other readers note the possibility of metal toxicity from the One Ring in their Rapid Responses." Hopefully everyone has had a few days off to 'Research' this by watching RotK's extended cut.

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  1. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm glad our educational system has progressed to the point that students can get acclaim for watching fantasy movies and devoting their time to "studies" of this kind. The human condition is so much better off now. Thank you very little.

    1. Re:Wow by cenonce · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My wife is a psychology professor. One of her class exercises in Abnormal psychology is to have students "diagnose" a charcater from a movie. She says it helps students get interested in the topic to be able to write about a movie in which they are interested. Sure, she gets the standards: Norman Bates from "Psycho", Jack Nicholson's character in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and Glen Close from "Fatal Attraction". But she has recently gotten Jake Gyllenhall's character from Donnie Darko. I don't think she has gotten a paper on Gollum yet.

      BTW, since the site has been blasted by Slashdotters, I can't get read it, but her guess is that Gollum has dissociative identity disorder. I'll be interested to see what the article says.

    2. Re:Wow by the+original+m0nk · · Score: 5, Funny

      and - trust me on this - if the chick speaks klingon, not only do you NOT want to pick her up, but chances are good that she could pick YOU up, soviet russia be damned.

  2. HIPAA Violation! by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

    Revealing Gollum's private medical information constitutes a violation of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996.

    1. Re:HIPAA Violation! by jabuzz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In five days time due to the wonders of the Freedom of Information Act there is no such thing as privacy in medical records in the U.K. any more - period. Want full disclosure of Tony Blairs recent operation, then it's all yours provided you cough up the money.

  3. Gollums equipment by Xpilot · · Score: 4, Funny

    My friend and I theorized that under that dirty little loincloth of his, Gollum probably doesn't have much of his manhood left, having shrivelled up and dried off after centuries of disuse. Maybe we should write it up and send off our theory to the British Medical Journal too. I'd feel so erudite seeing my name published there.

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  4. star wars & neurology by cbnewman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    my neurology professor gave a lecutre about neurologic disorders in star wars. the most interesting part was the observation that yoda may have suffered from William's Syndrome

  5. I don't know about Gollum... by Pecisk · · Score: 4, Funny

    but web site diagnosis is clear: slashdotted.

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  6. Re:Erm.. by sailforsingapore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let the students have their fun. I'm sure this study was done with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

  7. My personal conclusion... by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gollum suffers from a severe case of being a book/movie character with behavior patterns that may have some similarities to real-world ailments, but which are ultimately artificial constructs of Tolkein's/Jackson's minds and therefore fruitless to "research." :D

  8. Re:Erm.. by blike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No need to get your panties in a wad, they're not "being silly".

    No one is saying that the author intentionally characterized Gollum with a certain disorder in mind. It was an excercise in psychiatry. If a human presented with these signs, this is how they would approach it.

  9. Metal toxicity? by RenaissanceGeek · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Hmmm. Could the ring have been made of a gold/mercury amalgamation? That WOULD explain it's being maleable enough to fit fingers of different sizes.

    Now, to figure out just what alloy that it was that the embedded scrollwork was made from which would glow red at a temperature below the melting point of the amalgam (something with phosphorous in it, perhaps?)....

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  10. Reminds of of an old Styx tune .... by Luscious868 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Too much time on my hands...."

  11. Check google news for clips by bishr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google news has a few articles about it - here's clips from the original article via other articles on google. By the way, slashdotting a medical journal is a bad thing - I'm a medical student and I rely on these resources to guide or double-check decisions, or to keep up to date.

    "A space occupying lesion such as a brain tumour is unlikely as his symptoms are long standing. Gollum's diet is extremely limited, consisting only of raw fish. Vitamin B-12 deficiency may cause irritability, delusions, and paranoia. His reduced appetite and loss of hair and weight may be associated with iron deficiency anaemia. He is hypervigilant and does not seem to need much sleep. This, accompanied by his bulging eyes and weight loss, suggests hyperthyroidism. Gollum's dislike of sunlight may be due to the photosensitivity of porphyria. Attacks may be induced by starvation and accompanied by paranoid psychosis. ... On initial consideration schizophrenia seems a reasonable diagnosis. However, in the context of the culture at the time it is unlikely. Delusions are false, unshakeable beliefs, not in keeping with the patient's culture. In Middle Earth, the power of the ring is a reality. The passivity phenomena Gollum experiences are caused by the ring, and these symptoms occur in all ring bearers. Gollum does not fulfil the ICD-10 criteria for the diagnosis of schizophrenia.

    The presence of two personalities, Gollum and Sméagol, raises the possibility of multiple personality disorder. ..."

    "There is no disorder of the form of thought. He uses neologisms such as "triksy" and "hobbitses." Gollum has nihilistic thoughts, believing that he is a murderer, liar, and thief; although there is some basis in fact for this and he shows little guilt or remorse. He is preoccupied with, and deeply desires, the ring. He has obsessive thoughts but no compulsions, though he would do anything for the ring. He is hostile towards Frodo, the current owner of the ring. He has paranoid ideation about Sauron ("the eye is always watching") and about Samwise Gamgee ("the fat hobbit... he knows"). Gollum has difficulty controlling his thoughts and actions, exacerbated by prolonged contact with the ring. As Gandalf and Frodo have similar symptoms in the presence of the ring, we can attribute this somatic passivity to the ring. There are features of dissociation. Smeagol has separated his personality and is now Gollum as well."

    "Gollum displays pervasive maladaptive behaviour that has been present since childhood with a persistent disease course. His odd interest and spiteful behaviour have led to difficulty in forming friendships and distress to others," she said.

    "He fulfils seven of the nine criteria for schizoid personality disorder, and if we must label Gollum's problems we believe that this is the most likely diagnosis,"

    Wiki entry on Schizoid

  12. Gollum is *way* older than 587! by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok, even by Slashdot standards this is going to be a seriously geeky post. Prepare yourself - you have been warned.

    Gollum is at least 969 years old, and probably a whole lot older. Proof follows.

    In the Silmarillion, there is a quote in "Of The Rings of Power and the Third age" that goes as follows:

    ...the One Ring was indeed found again, by a chance more strange than even Mithrandir had foreseen; and it was hidden from Curunír and from Sauron. For it had been taken from Anduin long ere they sought for it, being found by one of the small fisher-folk that dwelt by the River, ere the Kings failed in Gondor;

    Gollum found the ring while there was still a ruling king in Gondor, before the reign of the Stewards.

    The reign of the Stewards began in TA 2050, after the death of King Eärnur at the hands of the Witch-King. So we know that Gollum had the ring before TA 2050.

    The ring was destroyed in TA 3019. That makes Gollum at least 3019-2050=969, and that's only if he found the ring on the very day the Stewards claimed Gondor.

    The Third Age begins with the defeat of Sauron by the Last Alliance. The earliest Gollum could have found the ring would be the day Isuldur lost it (TA 2), so he could be as old as 3019-2=3017.

    So Gollum is somewhere between 969 and 3017 years old. Splitting the difference makes him probably around 2000 or so. In any event, he's a lot older than 587.

    So how's that? Geeky enough for you? =)

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