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China Lights Pure IPv6 Network

plui writes "An all IPv6 backbone was launched this weekend in China. 'CERNET2 is the biggest next-generation Internet network in operation in the world and connects 25 universities in 20 cities. The speed in the backbone network reaches 2.5 to 10 gigabits per second and connects the universities at a speed of 1 to 10 gigabits per second.' Here is a link to the story in the English version of China Daily, the online news site in People's Republic of China."

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  1. Re:I suddenly have this urge to move to China... by liangzai · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh, you can access porn and "subversive documents" all you want in China. I do it everyday.

  2. Cool... by b374 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... now they can assign an IP for each one of them... next step: switch ID cards to IP cards ;)

  3. Re:What's the point? by thryllkill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The point is outlined in this line of the slashdot plug, "'CERNET2 is the biggest next-generation Internet network in operation in the world..."

    That alone makes it newsworthy. But of course, you're right. We should not discuss news items from countries whose values systems are not reflections of our own. I hate all that pesky "world news" stuff anyways. It might broaden my horizons or something, and we wouldn't want that.

    --

    Note to self: No more arguing with the faithful.

  4. Re:I suddenly have this urge to move to China... by liangzai · · Score: 5, Informative

    No proxies. It is not illegal to surf porn or stuff about Falun gong in China. What is illegal is setting up commercial porn sites within China (or dealing with commercial porn in general - your home made porn is legal). It is also illegal to challenge the ruling party, for instance by setting up Falun gong web sites within China. Everything else is legal, and if it isn't, nobody gives a shit anyway (you will find porn behind the desk in any video rental shop in China).

    75% of the kids in China learn about sex through web porn. This is in concordance with the rest of the world. Go figure.

    The Chinese authorities are very ambivalent about porn. That is why they do some obligatory censoring and let the majority sip through.

  5. Re:Will the asian networks become isolated? by eric76 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A few months ago, I asked a representative from Southwestern Bell when they would be ready to switch to IPv6. They indicated that they weren't even pursuing the issue.

    I look forward to IPv6 just because it will kill the random port scanning by all the Windoze worms.

    If we had already moved to IPv6, Code Red might still be looking for the second computer to infect.

  6. Re:What's the point? by 2Bits · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, you can live in your closed world if that's what you want. And oh, don't buy anything made in China, including most garments you can find in the US, computers, cell phones, electronics, shoes, ... Yeah, there are other countries which make them too, but as far I know, their political systems are not the same as the american one either....

    Well, I don't like to respond to AC, but I'm just tired of this attitude here. Sure, China has a ton of problems (I'm Chinese and I live in China, so I should know), but that's not an excuse that we can't all participate in building a better world. The chinese leaders now are very pragmatic, they still have their little problems, but that's getting better everyday. Do we need a bloody revo to change all this overnight? I'll take the current model of gradual change any day.

    What I'm saying is, if you don't care about other countries, fine, just buy everything made in USA. But just get over it, people are moving with their pace.

  7. I hope they have enough content! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The speed in the backbone network reaches 2.5 to 10 gigabits per second and connects the universities at a speed of 1 to 10 gigabits per second.

    Tell me, Mr. Anderson, what good is a high speed network if you are unable to speak your mind?

  8. Re:Shortage of IP Address by kyrre · · Score: 5, Informative
    From wikipedia:

    ". IPv6 is intended to replace the previous standard, IPv4, which only supports up to about 4 billion (4 × 109) addresses, whereas IPv6 supports up to about 3.4 × 1038 (3.4 dodecillion) addresses. This is the equivalent of 4.3 × 1020 addresses per inch (6.7 × 1017 addresses/mm) of the Earth's surface."

    It should hold for a little while.

    It's enough addresses for many trillions of addresses to be assigned to every human being on the planet.

    The earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

    If we had been assigning IPv6 addresses at a rate of 1 billion per second since the earth was formed, we would have by now used up less than one trillionth of the address space.


    From tcpipguide

  9. Re:75% eh? by liangzai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As far as I know, porn is delivered also outside the internet, for instance in form of magazines. And no, you don't have to be literate to read those magazines... in fact, pregnant women are standing all over the country side selling those lewd magazines and video tapes. Pregnant women, because they can by law not be detained for this minor crime.

    Regarding netizens and their porn usage:

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-05/10/conte nt_1461373.htm

  10. Re:I suddenly have this urge to move to China... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Funny

    >But don't worry, the moment you become a threat, you're quite certain there's some obscure, anal retentive prohibition, you'll get fucked over with.

    Enough America bashing! We're talking about China!

  11. Beneficial for adoption of IPv6 ? by Diabolical · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the article: One big benefit of the IPv6 is to solve the problem of shortage of IP addresses. In the current Internet based on IPv4 technology, the United States controls 74 per cent of 4 billion IP addresses, while the amount that China has is only equal to a campus of the University of California, despite its 80 million Internet users.

    Although people think that with NAT all IPv4 related problems could be solved here we see a very good reason why the rest of the world could use IPv6. Most of the IPv4 ranges are in the US. The rest of the world just has to get by with whatever is left (Big companies gobbling up entire classes of IP ranges which they never really use should be obliged to gives those ranges back so others can use them).

    Would this step be beneficial to the transition to IPv6? With the advent of the internet in other countries then the western world it could well be that things need to be sped up so that we will not see different internets. Has anyone done some real research on this subject? I know i keep hearing that with NAT and similar technologies IPv6 might not be necessary but is that really so given the rise of internet usage in Asia and other countries?

  12. Re:Will the asian networks become isolated? by jbb999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oops forgot to login for my comment. You could always vote with your credit card and change to an ISP which does support ipv6. They do exist. The ISP I use supports ipv6 (it's in the UK though so no use to most people here I suppose). The point is that ISPs supporting ipv6 do exist and is a unique selling point for those ISPs. It's of limited use at the moment but I suspect soon enough it will be become more use and those few isps and their customers who do support it now will have a great headstart,

  13. Re:Why not us?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Your comment is moderately trollish (as I'm sure my response will appear), but I'll bite. China is able to do it because they have a centralized controlling party. In America, things are pulling in all directions -- there is no single vision to get things done.

    Examples:
    Fuel -- China is going nuclear and is planning on being a major player in the energy-provider game in the near future.
    Space -- China has an active space program, not the joke that the American space industry has become.
    True, sometimes the ethics of the programs are a little off, but China is willing to take risks, especially if the payoffs warrant it. America just does not seem willing to take the risks.